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  1. SDCA Texas is announcing the formation of a The Texas All Stars Alumni corps. This will be a parade corps comprised of former members of any corps. The corps will perform at parades around Texas, and is open to anyone who wants to participate.

    The first performance of the corps will be on May 2, in Corpus Christi Texas(on the Gulf of Mexico), for the Buccaneer Days Night Parade. The Buccaneer Days Night parade, draws approximately 200,000 people, and would be a good way to gain exposure for Drum and Bugle corps in Texas.

    We are planning a entire weekend of fun for anyone who wants to join us. We are planning to participate in other parades/events, in other parts of the state.

    if you are interested , send me a private message, for more info.

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  2. New start up corps is looking for contras/tubas. 2-3 valve G horns are desired, but they will consider valve rotor. Let me know if you have some. They would prefer matching horns, but that isn't a deal killer.

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  3. What does "Star of Indiana returning" even mean? I'm not just being a smart a** about semantics (for once.) Consider the following scenarios...

    1. World Class Corp A folds for a year, but returns 1-2 years later, still under the name Corps A with most of the staff in place. They're in Open Class that year, as the rules dictate. I think think the general opinion would be that they are still Corps A.

    2. World Class Corps B folds for 5-10 years. Returns with a few of the original staff, calls themselves Open Class Corps B. Are they still Corps B?

    3. World Class Corps C folds. 20 years pass. A group enters as a small Soundsport unit calling themselves Corps C. Are they still Corps C? Would it matter if they had some of the original staff? Would it matter if they carried over the original finances but had managed to erase their debt and raise enough cash to return? What if they did all those things but were in Open Class with the intention of transitioning to World in a few seasons?

    4. Now let's imagine that a real, long lasting corps with well-established traditions and a distinct identity folds. Say, for the sake of an entirely hypothetical scenario, SCV. How long is the cutoff before any corps that returns under the name wouldn't be considered the same corps as they were before the hiatus? 5 years? 10? Or could Vanguard return at any indefinite point in the future and still be Vanguard?

    The questions I'm trying to ask with all this are what is the cutoff for a corps to retain, lose, or reestablish its identity? Is it a factor of time? The name being used? The people involved? The music being played? The non-performance traditions?

    I really do not see any time frame for a cutoff. Be it 1 sec, or 1000 years.

  4. While others have said money, I would argue tradition. As much as I love drum corps today, I am an old schooler at heart. When I see Phantom today, I also see them at Harvard Stadium in 1977, the first time I saw them live, and all the years I between. Same holds true for so many corps.I am sure tradition is why I love Troopers, Madison, Cadets, and of course BAC. This for me would be missing if we "restarted" a corps. I would not object to an organization using a corps name, with similar style uniforms, and perhaps using their signature pieces, IF THEY HAVE ALL NECESSARY PERMISSIONS, but it might not be the same.

    Now if prove me wrong, you or some other brave soul, you restart a corps, create the same magic of the corps' glory days, I will be grateful, no doubt cheering, buying souvenirs, and my words can be added to the heaping helping of crow I should be eating when it comes to drum corps predictions!

    Just a question regarding "crow." On Sunday, I had the smallest chicken leg possible from KFC. Does this qualify as crow?

    Chickens and Crows are closely related, so maybe a really small chicken leg is crow......

  5. First of all, it's been discussed on here ad nauseam that you can't run a corps on will alone, especially not successfully for any length of time.

    Second of all, calling anyone gutless and weak for deciding NOT to start up a corps after weighing all the options and making a prudent business decision seems silly to me.

    Just sayin' :whistle:

    Exactly....you are just saying.

  6. Yes, of course. It's a question of why that person is in the activity at all. If the goal is to help young people turn themselves into stellar adults through the pursuit of performance excellence, well, that takes enough guts by itself, and the added burden of living up to the expectations of a bunch of alums and fans is needless, perhaps even fatal, overhead. If my motivation is today's kids in today's activity, I think my chances are improved if I do it on a clean slate. If the motivation is the youth, then showing off how much guts I have is secondary and selfish.

    Not that I wouldn't love to see 27 on the field again. But if my choice is between a failed attempt to start up 27 and a successful attempt to start up a new corps, I'll take the latter.

    What would constitute failure, in your mind? If a once major corps returned as a much smaller SDCA style corps, would that constitute failure? Or would a corps restarting, staying small, and being around for almost 100 years,(a la Racine Scouts) not be successfull enough.

    The only failure, to me, in Drum Corps is not participating.

  7. In a word, $.

    That's a mighty big word. And if you can get past it, you have all the expectations hung on the name of a famous corps resurrected. Imagine that you acquired the trademark of the 27th Lancers. Presumably, you would have purchased it because of the brand value the name has. Well, if you live by the brand value, you die by the brand value. There's no way you could put out a 2015 version of 27th Lancers that didn't play "Danny Boy" and wore spats and featured a monster rifle line and a 14-member snare line. That's what Two-Seven is, in the minds of those who cherish the name. Just too much baggage to deal with.

    Nothing you have said is insurmountable. Only a weak person would be daunted by anything you said. A dedicated person could overcome all of that, and excell in restarting 27th lancers, or any corps.

    If everyone thought the way you are thinking, then no one would fly blimps, because of the hindenberg,(before you start saying no one does, There are numerous companies, and government who do fly them in all roles.) Or no one would race cars because of the crashes at Indy, and Nurburging early in racing history. A person with guts would make it happen.

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  8. After stating that corps cannot be restarted in another thread, I probably should be avoiding this thread, but I can't resist. 27th and North Star would be my top choices, but I'd like to add Defenders of Rockland, MA. I considered joining this corps but the person who was going to join with me, who at the time had a license and a car moved with his family to another state. I did not have my license at the time and Rockland, or my home town for that matter, did not have public transportation that could help. So I had a fondness for this corps. They folded at a time they were beginning to make noise nationally, so I'd bring them back to pick up where they left off.

    Why can't a corps be restarted? What is the obstacle to restarting a corps, other than the lack of desire?

  9. How much would $1,000,000 buy in today's drum corps world though?

    It would do wonders for a small corps but it sounds like the big corps spend almost that much on a tour each summer. Starting up (without the sponsorships) would probably make things even costlier.

    But I would be happy to be proven wrong if it meant Star would return. :flower:

    It depends on what you did with it. A smart person could easily get a full sized corps off the ground with $1,000,000 in seed money. A true entrepenuer would take it, and soar. Some people would probably blow it, though.

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