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53 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
i would tell you but you blocked me.
lol. you got blocked. to be honest I thought I would before you my friend.
Sorry I have to go. I am writing drill for my high school band. An Adele tribute with the band in leotards.
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8 minutes ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
I see that a lot on here. Revisionist history trying to paint a picture in which DCI was horrible in the 70s, 80s and 90s, and always nearing the verge of total collapse, saved from the depths of oblivion only by adding amps and trombones. Also trying to act like Chuck Mangione wasn't a big act in the late 70s. Everyone played his music because it was good music, end of story. Some of the most iconic shows from DCI's history comes from those years. I challenge anyone to find something from 2017 that's going to be considered "iconic drum corps" in 40 years. Besides the leotards, of course.
Challenge accepted.
Blue Devils. Show for the ages. There was nobody touching them this year. Like 86. nobody was coming close.
Iconic. SCV. should I go on??????????????
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1 minute ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
You'd like that, wouldn't you? The second an ideology threatens yours, your sensibility is "Love it or leave it". No need to discuss it, just attack! How about I love it, despite the efforts of DCI, along with individuals like you, to drive me away, and do all I can to help steer the activiity away from the disaster it is heading for?
2017 IS the year in which DCI hornlines and drumlines started wearing leotards. That is a verifiable fact, and you cannot argue with that. All you can do is pedantically try to debate the semantics behind the costume materials and nomenclature.....at the end of the day, it's a skintight leotard. And that WILL be remembered in the history of the activity. It's not a question of credibility (which seems to be YOUR one note..."lol u lose all credibility when u say something I don't like".....), it's a question of attacking rather than debating. And if all you want to do is attack, flame and insult one's credibility.....you can do that to someone else, because just like Guardling, I'm not having it. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Love it or leave it.
LOL. Seems you have the problem here. Trust me I appreciate your cause, But coming here and insulting marching members will get you nowhere. You still do not get it . Maybe you do not understand what credibility is. Yeah that is probably it.
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2 minutes ago, GUARDLING said:
its easier just to make noise...lol
Which is exactly what Bobby is doing
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2 minutes ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
It's just that's all you ever type. It accounts for well over a quarter of your total posts on this forum. "It was exactly the same X number of decades ago".
No, it wasn't. If it were, then this discussion wouldn't be happening every single day among fans.
Now you may sit there and say "Well all you ever say on here is that drum corps sucks today", and true as that may be, I'm bringing as many thoughts and ideas to the table I can think of to the discourse, in the hopes of rational discussion (which is genuinely rare inside this echo chamber). Your contribution.....your ONLY contribution.....to the discourse is "Pfft, it was exactly the same back in my day". And it wasn't. Audience members weren't sticking their fingers in their ears "back in the day" because the amps were too hot like they're doing today, they were instead cupping their hands behind their ears so they could absorb as much of the bugle sound as they possibly could. Now I could keep going with examples, but I have a feeling you're not too interested unless I give you an opportunity to type "Yeah yeah people have been saying that since the 70s", and I'm not having it. No one in the 70s was saying "Which corps is that? I can't tell because they're all wearing ballerina costumes".
LOL.you actually made some points until your last sentence. Then as usual you lose credibility. LOL. Pathetic
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13 minutes ago, Ghost said:
Once Philly was mentioned as the city that even hates Santa Clause, It's been down hill since then.
LOL. As a Giants football fan, we used to drive down to Philly to watch the Giants vs Eagles. I saw Eagles fans throw a Giants fan of the mezzanine section. LOL. Guess that is why they have a court/jail inside the stadium.
But I digress, people do not like winners. They for the most part prefer underdogs, because in reality , in sports it is usually the same teams that win, hence the disdain.
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4 minutes ago, GUARDLING said:
Wanna deny it?or dont you have actual experience to address the statement
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5 minutes ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
It's not "my" vision. It's the framework that DCI had already initiated, before it abandoned reason for madness.
But at the end of the day, my comments aren't really for you. They're for the corps directors and techs who read the comments on this site. Let them read mine, and let them read yours. Let THEM decide if they should listen to former supporters who have become disenfranchised with the direction of the activity, or listen instead to enablers who blindly praise everything they do without question, and whose mantra is "leave the past in the past". You say "If you want to change things, do something about it". I AM doing something about it. At least I'm trying. All you're doing is saying that I shouldn't even bother to try.
I don't expect drum corps to go back to 2 valve bugles and high step marching. But the sweeping changes that are transforming the activity from drum corps into summer guard and marching band MUST be reigned in, they MUST be scrutinized, and they MUST be re-evaluated. By and large, 2017 shaped up to be a fairly forgettable season, whose recap sound byte on the DVD box set will be "This was the year of leotards, faulty electronics, and even bigger props". The corps can not keep relying on total sensory overload just to win a medal. At some point, things MUST go back to a sensible balance between "innovation" and "expense", or else even the founders are going to fold.
LOL. give it up already . It is now becoming pathetic.
As I said yesterday, at times you bring up points, but the second you make comments like "This is the year of leotards etc. You again lose credibility. Grow up and find a new hobby if you dislike DCI so much.
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7 minutes ago, afd said:
I'm not being negative. What I see it giving up. This is a competitive activity. Cadets to me have always been at the fore front of this. Sorry if it sounds negative. It is. What I hear is defeat.
LOL . Defeat? Giving up? I would hate to hear what you have to say about former champions Phantom, Madison, Bluecoats.
SCV did not medal for a long time. Former Champs. Cavaliers had a down time.
Keep going with negativity.
What you hear is your own bias and ignorance
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23 minutes ago, afd said:
I love your enthusiasm but they finished 7th. Not a Cadet final finish that should be proud of. This this is the CADETS. 10 time World Champs. Only them and BD are double digits winners.
And............
They should be proud. They performed their ##### off, given the product. The members are proud of their show. So,if you can do better, go for it.
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Well you are a bit older obi wan
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2 minutes ago, George Dixon said:
well I'm not old but you seem to speak from experience so I will take your word for it!
Lol
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8 minutes ago, George Dixon said:
yeah we are only a couple years apart - I personally do not consider myself "old"
Old is only whatever you make it
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4 minutes ago, George Dixon said:
that's amazing - I'm jealous. (not about the extremely old part, about the seeing 60s drum corps)
Lol I was born in 67
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17 minutes ago, George Dixon said:
I first saw a live show in 72 - so I'm a newbie also!
LOL guys, I guess I am not an old as a fart as you guys
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10 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
You're allowing this troll to get under your skin, my friend. Just brush him away...
Nah, he is not under my skin. Takes a lot more than that. :)
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Night Bobby, feel free to retort. I actually have better things to do than ignorant, self deprecating miserable people
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5 hours ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
That's not at all surprising, since DCI has been assimilated into and taken over by BOA.
It's just too bad so many are being turned away based upon their inability to fit in a ballerina leotard, rather than their musical aptitude.
Tell that to Crown, BD, SCV, Coats etc. Musical aptitude.????????????????? THis years Crown, BD, and SCV may have been the greatest horn lines ever. Your point is mute. Crowns line was at an unprecendted level, Only matched by the BD of this year, I have heard horn lines for almost 40 years. This year you got 3 of the top ever.
And Bobby, if you want to know my opinion on the greatest horn line ever.................. 85 SCV. So as you may like dispute my point of current corps. I give you that.
Even if they were in underoos as you say current corps are.
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Actually in 86, we had some guard playing horns and horn members doing color guard. So.......................................
I mean you are old school. Problem with that Bobby ????????????????????
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8 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:
It's been a long time since Elk's Parade, amirite? I would look pretty bad in a leotard. Or unitard or whatever you call it. But if I could play like these kids play I would strut out there in the half naked Jesus outfit and horrify the crowd.
I am FMM of Cadets from the 80's. I was an ok talent. Nothing special, but worked my ### off. I could not play or perform what these young people are performing , even in my prime. IT is at another level. That said, Congrats to ALL performers from 1 to 35. Strive to be what you can be, Nobody can take that away. If you do that, score does not matter, place does not matter.
I will admit I am old school, watched DCI from 78 on. Fortunately marched in the 80;s with Cadets. Times change, and I will admit I was hqving a hard time with the evolutionary change. But you know what, these kids have more demand and talent, than I could ever have. To that, congrats current members and future members. Keep evolving.
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3 hours ago, ross6200 said:
Congratulations to the Cadets for an amazing season. It may not have shown up in the form of a medal, but this show was a real winner in my opinion. I am a Cadets veteran who marched in the 1980s, and do consider myself 'old-school' - so I typically don't like vocals and amplifiaction, etc. But I have to say that this Cadets show was groundbreaking in how it seamlessly (and successfully) brought so many elements together in a production that really blew me away. I will admit that early in the season, I was underwhelmed by the show. But the growth that happened both creatively and from a membership standpoint (I understand there were a LOT of rookies) was incredible. This turned into one of my favorite shows this season - and one my favorite Cadets shows ever.
Normally I wouldn't have posted this. But Cadets members are likely seeing a lot positive and negative comments about the show on this forum, and I thought they should be congratulated for an amazing job pulling off a classic show. I am not a fan of vocals or changes to the Cadets uniform. And I am also not religious. And STILL I loved this show!!!! Well done 2017 Cadets!!!
If I recall Ross, there were some solid bari lines there in your day. Just sayin.
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29 minutes ago, FTNK said:
Can we put a lid on it and lock this thread?
No offense, but you can always skip the thread.
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21 minutes ago, Bobby L. Collins said:
That's not at all surprising, since DCI has been assimilated into and taken over by BOA.
It's just too bad so many are being turned away based upon their inability to fit in a ballerina leotard, rather than their musical aptitude.
LOL assimilated.
I will go out on a ledge and say you learned to play a brass instrument on a 3 valve. Then had to assimilate to a G 2 valve to march corps.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm assimilation
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8 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said:
Lol, do you go on other corps threads saying the same thing?
LOL, yeah the wording was intended for a purpose me thoust guess on his part
Cadets 2018
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Score as a FMM member of Cadets, did not matter. All anyone can ask is to be the best you can be. You do not control what another corps executes or does.