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If the Scouts are doing the show that I think they should be doing for their 80th Anniversary (hint right there), it will
be an epic show with a very epic and clever concept....and I will be a very happy camper!!!!
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Firing the admin would be a huge mistake as they have been making sound decisions financially and organizationally
that will help insure the future stability and continuity of the organization. Not to mention building a culture
of sound leadership and excellence for the young men that will impact their lives and the lives of those around
them for decades to come. Competitive success is great, but I've seen FAR too many Corps chase it like it's the most
important thing (which is laughable in a subjective art form).....to their own peril. Take Magic of Orlando in 2002. They
went and bought the best staff for a short-sighted goal of shooting for the top....they didn't have a solid structure or
long-term plan, and a few years later, they were GONE. Never to come back.
I would rather have the Scouts stay around where they are (or inch forward) while building a much stronger
financial foundation....and when they are ready (and ONLY when they are ready), make a big move like Boston did.
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4 hours ago, HbRJgdZHsbc said:
I'd love to see "A Drum Corps Fan's Dream, Part Dos (Part Deux)" from Madison. Put on the sequins, Red Green & White, and play loud latin jazz at my face for 12 minutes. May not be the most creative thing ever, but the effect scores would skyrocket with fan reactions.
Sadly, the effect scores are in no way affected by audience reaction. Even more sadly, to do a show like that these days
would be competitively suicidal. :(
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Just getting an early start. What show will the Scouts play 10 years from now and where will they place?
Will they have risen to the top 3? What impact will this past season's show have on the future Madison Scouts
and the activity at large? Will they still be all male?
Here's my prediction - They will win with a show entitled "Malaguena and Spats!"
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Are you doing this so that members can post their own reviews? Or like George asked, are you doing it just
to give a 4 word review on one show?
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On 7/18/2017 at 0:10 PM, BigBadMadMan said:
hinting at the same conclusion for years that Ndkbass just came out and said...I think the admin is the problem. I have zero faith in Dann and Chris to put a competitive product on the field anymore.
That's a little hyperbolic don't you think? Plus, as many pointed out, Chris in Dann do not get involved in what the
product or design is. What the Scouts should do, is figure out how Boston built their program very patiently over the years....not
just their design, but their fundraising....then at the right time, they made a big move and put up some heavy cash to get a higher
level design staff...and look where they (Boston) are now! Scouts have been digging out of the "Sal" problem for 10 years and now
have the debt at a servicable level....but it may take several more years before they can make a bigger move. (Sad that a "youth" activity
requires such a monumental amount of cash to be viable...but that's another conversation). As far as the "Sal" problem, I submit that he
wasn't the problem.....it was the fact that the BOD put him in a position to handle the administrative and financial side of the Corps, which
he was not qualified to do. He's one of the most brilliant designers/teachers in the activity, but he's not trained or qualified to be a
Director. So surprise surprise, he made some bad decisions with money....and the BOD get ###### and fires him! He should have been
re-assigned as Program Coordinator and they should have hired someone else as Director. But like so many Scout Alums now, they
wanted blood, so they burned him.
Anyway, right now, the Scouts are chipping away and doing whatever they can do with what they have. I say they have a solid shot at returning
to Finals, but it won't be easy....they have to clean like mofos.....and add the right amount of GE moments that won't sacrifice the cleaning.
If you look at the recaps, their content analysis scores are competative with the groups around them, but they are further back in execution.
This is potentially good news, because it means once they clean, they could pass a couple corps that are now above them.
GO MAD MEN!!!
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4 hours ago, Northern Thunder said:
The only time this was true was 1974.
I would argue 1981 was also the case at least for most of the season. They kind of ran out
of gas or peaked a little too early during Finals week, but they were definitely in the hunt.
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19 hours ago, BoaDci said:
They are ahead of Madison right now imo. I read a Madison member on Reddit that much of the corps hates the show this year. Its a real bummer. Mandarins is clearly the better corps right now, way more passion, and clean passion at that.
Lol. What member is that? Having watched 8+ hours of rehearsals, talking to several of the men and seeing them put
their hearts and souls into this show, it's clear these guys.....ALL of them, LOVE the show that's been given to them. I think you're
just making this up. Or the person on Reddit is making it up....and probably is not a member.
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4 minutes ago, henry7184 said:
I like a lot of different styles. With the Scouts I think it's a HUGE step up in terms of design and content. They may finish very very well this year. We will see. I just wish we had full panels all the time so we would know more of the story.
Well...there certainly seems to be a wide variety of opinions for Madison's show.....and a wide variety
of crowd responses from one show to the next. Maybe I'll wait till I can see them live, instead of basing my
opinion on the one video of them from Michigan City. Here's hoping you're right! I want to see them succeed
and get back into Finals.....and win over the crowds!
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1 minute ago, BozzlyB said:
I haven't enjoyed a show as much as Boston's in a very long time. Bluecoats were as impressive as I expected them to be, and I think Bluestars score suffered a bit going on after as well as no perc judge which is one of their strong points. Madison, I just don't know what to say. Angry and dissonant is great in small doses. When it is your entire show from beginning to end you just end up exhausted and bored by the whole experience. Big swing and a huge strikeout for me.
Gotta agree - I don't know why the Scout's staff feels like dark/weird/creepy is the answer to competitive success.
2015 was a happy-go-lucky show with a lot of accessibility and they climbed to 8th. And then last year....and even much
more this year.....anger/rage/darkness! And what really sucks....what if they don't make it back into Finals, AND
they alienate their fans? I was saying earlier....look at Bluecoats. High energy, melodic, powerful, and entertaining as heck......basically
what Madison used to be......and they are KILLING it!
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3 hours ago, MikeRapp said:
That is the tangible benefit of being the "it" corps. But it also is the result of purposefully making shows for the kids who are marching. Very clear they want the kids to perform like they are having a blast. There is something very infectious when a performer knows the audience is going to love them and is eager to cheer at all the right moments.
This is exactly what Madison used to do.....and what they should be doing now.
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Hmmm....Madison must not have performed tonight? Not a single mention of them in this thread.
Nice pics of them though. Did they eat a bag of ####s that much?
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2 minutes ago, henry7184 said:
I hate White Russians. Not the people, the drink.
They're definitely an acquired taste.....it helps to mix them with a nice Sarsaparilla.....specifically
a Souix City Sarsaparilla!
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Fair enough, it was his Mother. But give me SOME credit, I've only had 6 of my usual 9 White Russians....I'm
a little hazy.......eff it, let's go bowling!
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Just now, henry7184 said:
No? You're being funny.
Although I do think it's funny, I am being serious. That was in their original press release.
One of the original actors from the musical was Irish, so they re-imagined the story from an Irish perspective.
Holy contrived Batman!
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37 minutes ago, henry7184 said:
I'm still trying to figure out what Les Miz has to do with the Irish.
Because....one of the actors in the musical was Irish!
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By the way, I'm seriously eating crow on my staging comments from the other day! I made that
judgement based on low angle poor quality photos. Having seen the show from higher up, the staging,
props, look of the corps and the visual all tie together beautifully! There's a real mood
to this show and once it gets clean, it will surprise a lot of people!
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4 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
From Milwaukee Wisconsin, performing their 2017 program - O'Miserables.....
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6 minutes ago, MikeN said:
That's a winter line (MCM, right?) that did "The Hand of Man," which based on descriptions sounds very similar to Madison's show.
Mike
I wonder if Scouts at least partially based their show theme on MCM's show.
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17 hours ago, Hook'emCavies said:
What.... what is this?????
So obviously it's not the Scouts (give away being the drums aren't Yamaha), but does anyone know who this is?
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14 hours ago, xandandl said:
oh, it's that WGI or is it Russian front?
In Soviet Russia, Spats have YOU!
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Spats? You'll be lucky if they have SHOES!
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59 minutes ago, FlamMan said:
Yup.
You'll change your tune when that costume is spats! Just one big spat head to toe on every member!
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The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)
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Hopkins needs to step down immediately if he cares about the future of this organization! That is, if he's not fired - which should happen.