Precious Roy
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Please explain, not sure what you mean?
The percussion judge was sampling ("paying attention to," in a sense) different parts of the show as he/she was evaluating them on different nights. Perhaps paying more attention to battery on one night, and front ensemble the other?
Which brings up the question...are the percussion judges currently evaluating from the field or from the booth?
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Yay! Video on Demands have been posted to Fan Network!
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How does the same percussion judge flip the content score between two corps one viewing to the next? I'm pretty sure their books haven't changed much if at all in just a few days. He had Blue Stars over Scouts in content at Whitewater, and Scouts over Blue Stars in Lisle. I don't get it.
Sampling differences?
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On the individual corps brass and percussion caption history tables, could you swap the "Achv" and "Cont" columns, to match the order on DCI's recap sheets? Color guard "Subst" and "Achv" is fine as is.
Thanks, and nice job!
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I am giddy in anticipation of Brutus' take on this show!
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So, IF you don't mind comparing scores from separate shows on the same night, then you shouldn't mind comparing captions either:
Bluecoats took guard for the night (beating BD by a tenth).
BD and Cadets tie in total GE.
BD first and 'Coats second in visual (.6 difference).
BD first and Crown second in Music (.4 difference).
BD first and Crown second in percussion (.4 difference).
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Frankly, I think the idea that the fans know better than the instructional/design staffs who are in critique with and receiving detailed commentary from the judges is pretty funny. I'm sure such emails have been sent, but lets not kid ourselves. As a designer and instructor I've had parents/volunteers make suggestions from time to time, and I always try to be as gracious as possible, but for the most part, I'm not taking much of it very seriously (of course from time to time there's a good idea). I don't give the chef at a restaurant suggestions on how he could make his dishes better, whether I liked what I had or not.
I would tend to agree. This is like the drum corps analog to a parent telling his kid's baseball coach that his kid should be pitching and batting cleanup.
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Thanks. I haven't listened to that podcast, but were the horns actually recorded bending the pitch themselves? (I mean, if they can really do that, why not do it live?) Or were the recorded playing a note, or a set of different notes, which the synthesizer then bends and/or blends? I'm guessing the latter.
I don't recall him saying explicitly, but my assumption was/is the latter as well.
A comparison might be: have a trumpeter record all the notes in his solo, and then have a synthesizer edit it and play it back on the field at a speed faster than human lips and fingers can manage: all 256th notes, or something like that. We couldn't fairly say that he was doing most of the work.
I'd like to see the synth form the proper embouchure to play that solo in the first place! (But your point duly noted)
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In fact the synthesizer is doing most of the work.
According to the latest DCI podcast, the Bluecoats brass actually provided the music sample for the sythnesizer to to bend. So, one could say that the Bluecoats brass had previously done most of the work of the synth part of the pitch bend.
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I give the show a more scientific spin:
The preshow = obvious countdown and liftoff.
Interstellar Suite section = the chaos and acceleration associated with getting into space/orbit.
Percussion feature = the flight transitions to orbit, which is less chaotic. There's no sound beyond your spacecraft. And the pressure differences between space and your vehicle causes metallic creaking sounds within.
Ballad = you've been in space long enough, and now you're getting homesick
Final number = the gradually building chaos associated with de-orbit burn and return to atmosphere, culminating in a successful touchdown.
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Here's where someone with some GIS skills can step up. Plot a map with the points for the home location of each DCI corps. Using those points, create Thiessen polygons that show the areas where each of those corps' home cities are the "closest" corps. Then calculate the population within each Thiessen polygon. What you end up with is an analysis of population that is considered the closest to each corps.
Areas where there are greater clusters of corps (such as northern IL and WI, or the northeast) would have smaller polygons, whereas corps out by themselves (Troopers) would have a larger area to draw from.
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There was one forum I used to go to (now closed) where the moderators were very heavy-handed. They wouldn't even allow sarcasm.
Say you were replying to someone's comment and said sarcastically "You've got to be kidding!" - you were warned and the comment was removed.
Wow! You have got to be kidding me!
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Oh! The humanity!
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Do you get it? That's not enough to win. There must be meaning behind the show in order for Bluecoats compete with those who do. Not a story with characters, necessarily. Not words. Not voices. But meaning.
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How could a judge award simply "Music, movement and shape" over "Music movement, shape, pattern and story?" They just can't.
You must be looking too hard for the meaning, because I sure see it when I see and hear the Bluecoats' show. The meaning, the "story," whatever is -- TILT. Its all over this show, both obviously and subtly.
As for your second point -- one could just as easily ask, "How could a judge award simply 'Music, movement and shape' over 'Music, movement, shape, and circus animals?'" The answer, of course is because sometimes the circus animals don't fit the concept of the show. In Bluecoats' case, a more defined or literal story would take away from the psychological effectiveness that the music and marching in the show provides.
Take a look at last year. PR had a pretty obvious story throughout the entire performance, complete with an opening book drill move. SCV, while doing a show based on the music from a well known story, was actually quite effective in presenting that music with minimal reference to the story. Which show was judged higher?
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After taking care of my own personal business and needs, I would:
* Donate to local school districts, with the money to be used strictly for enhancement and promotion of the music education program. Instruments, better practice and performance facilities, etc.
* Set up a multi-year deal to host a DCI show in my local area. Promote, promote, promote.
* Set up some sort of sponsorship or scholarship program for local marchers that would like to participate in a DCI corps. Not sure how exactly this would be implemented -- perhaps strictly on need, perhaps based on ability AND need, perhaps only for a certain age or DCI rookies only. Ideally though, I would attempt to sponsor one kid in each DCI corps, including open class (don't want to play favorites, you know).
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So, is the field there grass or artificial? Can it handle a bit of rain?
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It could have been worse. They (the white t-shirt crew at the Muncie show) could have just stood up and stayed standing through the entire performance. Otherwise, cheers aplenty bothers me not.
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so then numbers really dont mean anything just placements. when assigning a score there are many many considerations including dozens of sub captions. Not easy to separate . UNLESS you are saying just do away with all that
Oh, no, I'm not advocating this system. Just suggesting that this is one way to get around the whole "numbers management" thing that some people have issue with. I'm all for the current system in judging the performance as its performed, but without the unwritten rule of "no caption/sub-caption ties." If that percussion judge at the first show thought the units that he scored equally were indeed equally performed, then I have no problem with that.
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it would be very hard to wait to score after all is done , although I get what you are saying. Remember it is hours later and levels from top to bottom. note taking like the past on sheets is almost impossible
They would be ranking as they go along, and then just assign scores after everyone has been ranked. Just start at the bottom, assign them a 50, and then each one a rank higher gets one more point, until your at the top unit, that has a score of 49 + (number of units competing).
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I guess I'm in the minority on this, but...
If a judge is expected to give a score for his/her caption immediately after each corps' performance, then I have no problem with caption and sub-caption ties. If a judge is expected rate AND RANK each corps ("c'mon, its your job to determine which corps was better"), then the judge should not be compelled to score each performance until after all have performed. In that case, the scores end up essentially becoming ordinal placements, with a largely arbitrary final number attached to the ordinal. Sort of like the old system of figure skating judging.
Following either of these philosophies, there should be no "numbers management" issues.
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And not to steal rainshadow's thunder, the weather still looks PERFECT for drum corps tonight.
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Just curious if you can see the roller coasters from the show venue?
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Judiciously sounds like Deliciously.....
....man I'm hungry.
Judiciously is almost an opposite for "aplenty."
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Small line of storms approaching Muncie.....gonna be close people.
Good timing. Show's over.
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I know its a day old, but...
"whoreous" is a funny (and underutilized) word.