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Multi-cam view just crapped out for me. It won't play past a certain point. Anyone else have that problem?
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Quick! DON'T TELL Dan what "rusty trombone" means!
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On 5/26/2020 at 3:07 PM, Ediker said:
The Florida Rave
The Dentures
The Wandarins
Pacific Crust
Pacific Chest
Dentures (senior corps for Ventures)
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Squares
Crass, Inc.
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On 12/23/2019 at 8:59 PM, FaustianMachine said:
On the topic of Blu-Rays, I wonder if DCI is going to release a Decades collection like they did for 00-09 since they have 10-19 all in stock and all on Blu-Ray
The supposed advantage of releasing the pre-2009 shows on Blu-rays was for the video resolution that was superior to DVD. DCI may feel that there is no technical benefit for the consumer to redundantly release shows already available in Blu-ray.
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11 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
neither do the judges
Judges don't care, MM don't care, staff don't care, audience don't care...who does care enough to make it sound better in all venues?
6 hours ago, Bob P. said:Actually, in spite of that "rigged"sound, it sounds better high up in the stands, if the stands are high enough. No sound out of only the right hand speaker, if you are right in front of it etc. Even if the corps sound system is rigged for Lucas Oil, it still isn't very good indoors and actually sounds better outdoors, from high up perspective. Distorted sound indoors, sounds worse than distorted sound outdoors.🙄
A lot of local shows at high schools have stands that just don't go high enough for proper perspective of drill, pit balance or sound gear.
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4 hours ago, Fred Windish said:
A music event like this should want nothing to do with a distorted product. With few exceptions, like soloists and small ensembles, talent at this high level of proficiency must be challenged to “sing” in tune and balance. A display of natural ability and masterful command of the instrument. Anything less is both an insult to the group on stage, and abuse of the in-person audience.
That's why I had a problem from the start of the amplification nonsense, with some dude way off the field making decisions about half the sound coming off the field. It's no longer "for the kids," it's mostly about marketing for sound equipment retailers.
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11 hours ago, Bob P. said:
These days, high up outdoors is the place to see and listen to DC.
I would agree except for the point I made earlier that corps practice all summer with the sound gear rigged for Lucas Oil and they don't care how bad it sounds in other venues.
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11 hours ago, tedrick said:
The electronics race has lead to the design mindset that this is an indoor activity or a performance intended to be recorded and viewed online - is that really the direction the elite want the activity to go? Seriously, Bluecoats, Blue Devils -- is this what you want?
Considering how much editing occurs on recordings now, the main end goal seems to be the marketing of the videos. There are probably few seats in Lucas Oil Stadium that sound as good as the recordings - too low and you get blasted by the sound system, too high and you can barely hear above the blowers of air handling system. I found the best compromise to be at the front of the upper deck, where the plexiglass blocks the overpowering pit and I could actually hear some brass and drums. I just wish I didn't have to resort to Stupid Human Tricks to get to what remains of what I enjoy about drum corps, and just watching livecasts and videos is an easier path.
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On 1/16/2020 at 10:50 AM, Glenn426 said:
Imagine Crown Gabriel's Oboe solo/ solis without proper amplification, Only the people crowding the Front sideline would have heard the delicate nature of much of that solo.
Ironic, since you're getting clubbed over the head with thousands of watts of amplification with that delicate solo. You're not hearing the delicate tones of a musical instrument, you're hearing speaker cones flapping.
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On 1/15/2020 at 5:41 PM, TwoValves said:
Love the irony that the same crowd who gets all moist reminiscing about "getting my face melted off" by brash, loud G Bugle lines are now deeply concerned about hearing damage for everyone because of the volume.
Natural acoustic sound is fine. Amplification with its unnatural, distorted sound and is what destroys hearing. I've always felt that drum corps contests should be about wind and muscle, not electrons. Don't we get enough electrons from everything else? The loss of bugles was a shame, but the irresponsible decibel arms race is just unhealthy.
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Louder and louder. OSHA will shut this #### down. Sound crews practice for Lucas Oil Field all summer and don't care how overpoweringly loud and crappy the sound gear sounds at high school football stadiums.
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50 minutes ago, greg_orangecounty said:
AMEN!!! Thank you, Directors!!!
(btw, after this NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE amplification, mega pits, trombones, props, over production, emoting, et. all. don't seem so bad anymore)
In fact, NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES are often an opportunity to take stock on where you went wrong, such as with amplification, mega pits, trombones, props, over production, emoting, prancing show choirs, et. al. Retailers of laser lights and theatrical foggers are no doubt disappointed that the next logical step won't be taken just yet. All those lost sales - oh, the humanity!
Yes, thank you for propping up, at least for a little bit longer, the wall between drum corps and marching bland.-
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2 hours ago, cybersnyder said:
If they expand membership to 200, then there might be dedicated woodwinds sections, but at current levels, WC would take a hit on overall sound by marching woodwinds.
Why? There's no limit to how loud they can PUMP UP THE VOLUME, PUMP UP THE VOLUME, PUMP UP THE VOLUME.
But the first 1000-watt-amped shattering clarinet squeak that shreds every toupee in the stadium happens in 3.........2..........1...........-
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22 minutes ago, Glenn426 said:
So by Tomorrow morning(when this passes) I won't see any of you around.
I'm so sad.
Can you give me one last snarky response for old times sake?
It was a good run.
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1 hour ago, Year Fiver said:
I'm so excited to see who uses the first motorcycle on the field!
(obviously kidding in good fun)
Garfield Cadets used a motorcycle ramp on the field in 2014. I wonder why they chickened out on using the motorcycles.
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24 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
That’s what they said about trombones.
And as I predicted five years ago, they can't use trombones in anything but a full section without mic'ing them. They just have a small sound compared to baritones. So the notion of adding more weak instruments while simultaneously reducing field amplification doesn't exactly help the arrangers with the problem of balance. Not that I'll care about that if DCI adds woodwinds for 2021, I'll have stopped following the activity by then. We already have high school bands to show us how bad amplified woodwinds will sound and how weak they are without amplification.
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On 1/3/2020 at 8:22 PM, Bruckner8 said:
No. If you increase the numbers, you can march 12 Alto Saxes that would be heard. You probably need 16-18 Clarinets, but you get the idea.
So on top of complaints about "thunderous goo," with 12 alto saxes you would hear complaints about tinny goo. Unless they all had microphones so it could be thunderous.
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Just now, BlueStainGlass said:
That singing part was pre recorded.
They should erase it.
Sunday, July 31st 5:15 PM “NightBEAT: The greatest show on Turf” … Truist Field at Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, NORTH CAROLINA
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Corps won't perform because their electronics might get wet.
As if we didn't have enough reasons to hate electronics in drum corps.