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  1. I'm not going to make a list of where I think everyone is going to finish. I just have one observation to make. I've been surprised by the number of people that have the Crossmen falling out of the top 12 this year - I guess based on their history over the past 10 years. There may be some "homeritis" in my thinking, but I felt that they finished turning a corner last year that they started to turn in 2012 and are on the up slope. I think that it is more likely they move up a spot or three rather than fall back out of finals.

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  2. I thought 2014 top to bottom was one of the best - if not the best - seasons in the last 15 years. Great show designs and performances basically from 20 on up.

    I have to say that for me it was awesome to see the Crossmen finally get rid of those uniforms they had been wearing the last 10 years. They were sharp and clean - but they weren't "Crossmen" - especially after they removed all the red from them. I mean - how can it be the Crossmen with no red on the uniform anywhere? Was also great to see them playing a show with a real groove to it.

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  3. Wasn't Crown part of YEA at one point? A have a vague memory of that being the case.

    Yes, they were. Can't remember what year they broke away but once they got out from under George's thumb is when they went from a bottom-half finalist to a contender and ultimately champion.

    I look at Crown and dream of what could have been if the Crossmen had been able to get away sooner. There is a story floating around that much of Crown's current core staff were set to go the the Crossmen but George nixed it somehow and they went to Crown. No idea if there is any truth to the story or not.

  4. Why do I even look at this thread??? It's just seems like a bunch of homers posting their own self-righteous predictions. It's not like anyone here can say exactly what'll be going down once August hits.

    Just because I think that the Crossmen are going to shock the world and win their first championship this year doesn't make me a homer! :silly:

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  5. Edit: (since I finally remembered where I saw it) Trying to rate struggles by comparing one to another reminds me of the "Jaws" scene where drunken Richard Dryfeus and Robert Shaw are playing top me another with bite marks. "Look at this, moray eel got me there". Right after is the "You were on the Indianapolis?" explaination which gives me the creeps more than anythng else in the movie and shows how dumb the arguing really was.

    That's one of the best scenes in the movie. Apparently, Robert Shaw was trashed when they shot it too.

  6. OK totally off topic but am I the only one who has seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy" but not "Spartacus"?

    I do get the "I am Spartacus" reference.... it was in a Pepsi(?) commercial. "Who ordered the Pepsi(?)" (looks at order) "Name of Spartacus"... and of course "I am Spartacus" "I am Spartacus" "I am Spartacus", etc....

    Years and years ago - and enjoyed it immensely. Very offbeat and thouroughly enjoyable.

    hmmmmm . . . . I wonder if Netflix has it . . . .

  7. Nope as I posted above it's a reverse form of "If God loves you, he gives you good things/makes good things happen".

    In this case, if bad things happen then God ain't happy with you or He's giving you a warning to mend your ways.

    Edit: Thanks corpsband.. eh I was one county off......

    Thanks. I think I was typing my response as you were posting your explanation. Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. :doh:

  8. I've not heard that comment about God's punishment before. I'm going to refrain from commenting on it further because I am shocked that this is an actual belief that some people have.

    I may be wrong, but I think this is a reference to the sicko church that shows up to protest at funerals of fallen soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen with signs that say things like "G-d loves dead soldiers"

  9. It's not an either/or proposition. There's plenty oif room in between the two extremes.

    As an organziation with a long history of being way out in front of the LGBT equality, I have to admit their statement was pretty weak.

    The activity was so far out in front of treating LGBT persons not just with tolerance but welcoming acceptance. Stronger language which reflected this reality would have been more appropriate.

    There *is* a balancing of rights in this whole issue. It's not as cut and dried as either side would like to claim.

    I'd like to believe that all those professing to a religion would find in there scripture "love one another" (a pretty common teaching in most religions).

    But even now the end game is clear: no religion can lay claim to infringing the rights of any citizen. If your "religion" teaches you to stone the unbeliever, you don't get to practice that teaching here.

    I was not trying to address anything other than should or would DCI pull out of Indy in response to the new law. My conclusion was and remains a resounding "no" for the reason I mentioned (contract and the likely costs associated with attempting to break it).

    Whether DCI loves the law, vehemently opposes the law or is somewhere in between - their contract with Indy and their duty to the activity precludes them from leaving Indy as doing so could very likely be a suicidal act for them. Surely no one at any part of the spectrum of viewpoints on this issue wants that.

  10. I've been following this thread and even made a few points, but must confess that as it drags on I haven't read every post, so forgive me if this has been mentioned.

    Set aside for the moment any individual biases about whether the law is OK, an aberration or indifferent. For those suggesting that DCI make a strong stand and perhaps even pull out of Indy I ask - what about their contract? If what I was told last year is correct, there are still 7 or 8 years left on the contract (I was told it was extended to 15 years). For DCI to pull out they would have to break that contract. I for one don't think that DCI should be expending their limited assets on the millions it would likely cost them when they get sued for breach of contract.

    Regardless of which side of the issue you may be on, I think all agree that the welfare of the activity is (or should be) DCI's top priority. Breaking the contract and pulling out would jeapordize that welfare. Now, if they want to factor in the issue (if it even still exists when the contract is running out) when deciding whether to remain in Indy or move on, that's a different story entirely. But until then, they aren't going anywhere. Nor should they.

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  11. IDK, I think that's a goofy argument re: Scouts and Cavaliers. I've always looked at any drum corps as kind of like fraternities/sororities in their operations and in that regard I'm not sure there are any problems: just like Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts.

    Exactly. A private club (which is what drum corps are unless sponsored by a public entity like PAL was) can legally set any criteria it wants for membership. Private golf clubs do it all the time, and suits to try to force a club that restricts membership to men only for example always fail.

  12. My guess, like all other once All Male Drum Corps before them, eventually the Cavaliers and the Madison Scouts will end their decades long discriminatory exclusion of Females in their ranks... and within short order of that discrimination barrier coming down, we'll all wonder what took them so long to move into the 21st Century where continued gender discrimination policies were allowed to continue long after what should have been its Expiration Date.

    I don't see Madison or Cavies as practicing gender discrimination any more or less than other private clubs/organizations like Boy Scouts of America or Girl Scouts of America. And unless I am mistaken, a private club can make whatever membership prerequisites they choose based on any criteria that they choose.

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  13. Adding a little icing to this cake, what if a girl identifes as a boy and wants to join the Cavaliers? How can denying them that opportunity be OK if denying them a drink should be a crime?

    OK - that statement did it. My brain officially hurts now (Monty Python reference to those who didn't grow up with them).

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  14. A person takes in more harmful toxins from free floating frying oil particles in most restaurants; fast food or otherwise, than second-hand smoke.

    Anything in excess tends to be harmful to oneself and potentially others, whether it's using tobacco products or, as example, eating too much. Bovine methane is more harmful on a worldwide basis than tobacco smoke.

    In addition, the $1 federal tax (alone) on a pack of cigarettes, as example, goes to child health care as federally mandated and the American tobacco leaf is the base for the new Ebola vaccine---hence, I thank smokers for supporting child health care and saving the world from the potential Ebola plague.

    In short, there is good and not-so-good in all things...............even people, well--most people.

    I would love to see your science to support that viewpoint which is one I've never heard before. As a physician who deals up close and personal on a daily basis with the ravages caused by tobacco you would be hard pressed to convince me of the merits of those claims.

    But I fear we are getting more than a bit off topic here.

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  15. Can any lawyers weigh in here? State law certainly can override federal law, and vice versa, depending on which powers the U.S. Constitution grants to each--in fact, one reason that 20 states have passed such laws is that the Supreme Court had ruled that the federal version didn't apply to the states--but I don't believe that local laws can supersede state laws, unless the state's own constitution says so.

    My non-lawyer understanding of how these things work is that states have the right to make any laws that they see fit as long as they are not unconstitutional with the exception of any issues that are specifically assigned to federal authority.

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