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So about the staff.....J/K. I like the show, keep reminding everyone that playing a horn and marching can be pretty effective. Go Scouts.
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On 7/4/2019 at 6:42 PM, HolyNOLA said:
You and I would be good friends.
On 7/4/2019 at 10:16 PM, EricS said:Maybe one day when drum corps has completely become theater and drill has totally disappeared a corps will show up with a show comprised of only drill again and it will be considered a radical idea.
I agree with both of these. There was some drill this year, but honestly staging isn't what I loved dci for. By the time M & M becomes a thing again, dci will be dead or on broadway and someone else will organize a circuit that scores such things and we'll be so long gone no one will remember that it was done before.
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1 hour ago, Algernon said:
Why?
Because the talent of the performer is what should be on display, not the creative recording done in someones basement. It may be brilliant, but it's not live and quite frankly it's what a lot of us miss from the old days. Hell, it was early so they may have changed it, but there was what felt like three minutes that one corps parked the hornline out of sight and did whatever it is that went on. Honestly if I was a member and I parked out of sight for that length of time, I would wonder why I joined. I wanted to play my horn as much as I could because that's what I was best at. I can understand staging and props (not a fan) but for music people the acoustic production of sound is what we are impressed with, not some sample played on time. Overtones......I want overtones.
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I can't tell you how disappointed I was when I saw the bluecoats hornline lean in on the 50 and more sound was coming from the 30. To have the hornlines some of the corps have and misuse the amps the way they do is offensive. Honestly it might be time to retire the brass altogether and have 154 dancers. (kidding)
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I like these better than some of the other "outfits" I've seen this year. A little class goes a long way. Keep it up.
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I really think the 97 scouts show doesn't get enough love. That is all.
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3 hours ago, cixelsyd said:
As so often happens, the truth is somewhere in between. Both the marchers and the audience are paying customers.
And there is more. I see a third type of "customer" - the industry partners. Most notably, the manufacturers of brass, percussion, A&E, uniforms/costumes, and related equipment. They pay DCI and selected corps to advertise, and even serve as their manufacturer demo models. When you recognize this third category of "customer", it becomes much easier to understand the directions show designs have taken in recent years.
Ah, the money behind the politics. No one wants it to be true, but more often then not it runs the show. But since this a Scouts thread, anyone see the unis?
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Go Scouts, just sayin'.
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I'm excited to see what they do. I hope it works. Can we please wait and see how this thing looks on the field before we blow everything up? Go Scouts!
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If you win the crowd, you've won. Sometimes I think show designers forget that. It doesn't have to be in your face old school. I just want people to see the show and no matter where it places think "i want to be part of that".
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I think there is a theme. Its just not some abstract story.
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10 minutes ago, JeffreyJK68 said:
I hope the Scouts punch us right in the face from the first note to the last note!
I think we all hope so!
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From what I saw on FB, I hope they start a trend.
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Perhaps it has something to do with the time it takes to get the rights to use the music? I would also like to hear something, guess I'll have to sneak up to indy.
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5 hours ago, Dmlkmen said:
The Scouts are, without a doubt to me, where it begins and ends for most entertaining shows. That said, it’s hard to fit 12 shows throughout the 30 years I have been a fan into one post. But here goes....
12. 1990- It doesn’t get a lot of love. It took 9th, as the bar stools as well as visual in the opener are a bit of a head scratcher. But this is the first appearance of the piece “Remembrance” , which is always a great listen. The closer “You Can Cook” is very entertaining,
11. 1998- An anniversary show that was a lot of fun and entertaining. Lupon the Third was a different choice for an opener- but a great one . (Now, if we could just get another anime theme song, Cowboy Bebop, on the field). The closer of this show, Rememberance, is a classic. The groove provided by the percussion in this piece is perfect.
10. 1991 - The first City of Angels show. Very entertaining arrangements. The company front at the end, with the rifle toss and files going into the company front- great drill.
9. 1986- Great hornline. The Duke Ellington piece in this show has some terrific brass moments, to go along with great arranging. The closer from Starlight Express is also memorable.
8. 1975 - Almost put this higher, (But must leave room for the rest I really enjoy too).. MacArthur Park, of course, is a classic Scouts piece. So many other pieces in this show are also classic. I am rather new school in drum corps, but this show deserves to stand the test of time.
7. 1994- This show lit up Foxboro on Finals night, as it did all other shows that season. The closer gives me chills every time. The soloist doing his thing, and that push by the corps forward to the end. Pure drum corps joy.
6. 1996- Soprano soloist in the beginning. Mis Abuelos as the opener. The ending push in Malagueña. All deserving to be called the Drum Corps Dream, Part Dos.
5. 1992 - The Second City of Angels. Beefed up book in percussion and brass. Entertainment value turned up. Classic brass sound. 91 was good, but this one is the more entertaining of the two.
4. 2014- Not on everyone’s list to be ranked this high. But I was impressed with it, from the first time I saw it. From the first time st the movie theater event in June, through August and Finals, ot chsnged dramticslly, Particularly the closing piece and the soloist in the end zone- which was a perfect way to end it. I would like another take from the Scouts of Ellis music, or a show with an entirely Kenton book anytime.
3. 1995 - I was in Allentown to see this show live. From that experience, I don’t think there will ever be a louder crowd response I will hear in my lifetime. (2008 Phantom was close). . When your corps is selling signed drum heads at the souvie booth from the snareline, it speaks volumes to how popular this show was at the time.
2. 1984- One of my favorite Scout books ever. I have waited entirely to long for the Waltz of the Mushroom Hunters to be brought back by the Scouts, (or another corps on the field). That piece alone, makes this one of my favorite Scouts shows ever.
1. 1993 - Strawberry Soup.. Crowd response to the sopranos in the stratosphere.- Epic. The rain.. Drums solo kicking ### in Strawberry Soup, as well as laying down the groove throughout the show. This show was on fire throughout the season, and it seemed to hit its peak that night in Jackson.
Yoko Kanno Show! YES!
That has old school Scouts written all over it
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I think they'll get it together, there's a lot of changes happening and I think it will pay off in the long run.
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Madison goes on a tear and reclaims their title of best sixth place corps ever.
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I really like the rotating square to start and end the show for 97 (I think) BD for some reason.
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13 minutes ago, Liahona said:
Honestly there really hasn't been any awe inspiring drill these last few years...I've even spoken with a few drill writers about this as well as that's not really how they are writing shows these days...
And that makes me sad.........I miss the no props needed shows.
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Now, onto the 2019 Scouts!
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I hate the way people read into this, thank you for setting them straight. You may not like the way Scott sees the world, but he did everything he could to take care of his members in Madison, in addition to helping other corps survive.
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1 hour ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
And this is, IMHO, the key to all of this. There are many who will continuously state that DA is responsible due to a moral / ethical obligation. And though in my heart of hearts I agree with that statement, I can also understand the probability that legally he and DCI as a body could be clear. Howling at the moon will not fix the issue. DCI needs to get off of their collective a**** and make a firm stand and we as fans, former and current MM's and parents need to push them in any way legal to do so. The people who enabled those who abuse (past, present or future,) should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law just after a mob of us beats them to within an inch of their lives (we can use Ludwig drums. They're heavy and sound too s***** to use for anything else anyways.) The corps who have allowed this to happen and, in some cases, circled the wagons to protect themselves should also be punished. Their main job was to protect these kids. THEY were the first layer of defense...not DCI as a body. If something didn't come back on a background check and they heard rumors, then do another #### check. It's not that hard. I don't want to see DCI burned to the ground. And those who do seem to be throwing the baby out with the bath water from what I have read. Maybe that's not the intention but it's the perception.
This 100%
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It's obvious that DCI needs to restructure, but at this point can from corps as a large circuit be saved? It's already cost prohibitive, with less sponsors, sites and housing where does it go? Welcome back DCM and DCE?
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And finger pointing with no viable solutions. No one is defending what happened, we are asking how to fix it in a meaningful way that has a chance of getting voted on favorably by the membership. I don't see a good answer. Dftk, that's easy. However for any meaningful oversight the corps would have to become part of the DCI organization. If not, see blast! DCI had no control of star other than field competition. If DCI was truly the umbrella, cook wouldn't have been able to just leave. DCI is toothless other than suspending corps from competing in DCI.
So, show me a viable way to change it that would pass with the corps. Otherwise we're just trolling each other to sound important.
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2019 Madison Scouts!
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Do we really have to lie to ourselves to feel better about the fact that it is different. It doesn't mean better or worse. It's also not the source of the Scouts problems of the last 5 years. But it is different.