Lancer79
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2 hours ago, BigW said:
There, I think for a zillion good reasons and maybe one bad reason. I think he could have gotten away with not being a Cadets Alum himself if he'd have just had more tact... consideration...basic people skills towards others at the right moments.
This is very true. He admitted he was so focused on the constant pressure of raising funds to meet all of the expenses and keep YEA and the Cadets going. he didn’t see the value of the soft people skills when angry Alumni came at him. He said, in hindsight this was a mistake on his part. He thought the firery emotions others had towards him would dissipate... just the opposite, in this rage filled society - The fire grew. If only this was handled differently. He started the Alumni series. There were bigger ideas and plans for inclusion. Just ran out of runway... The angry Alumni blew up the runway in the most draconian way they could come up with.
It just didn’t have to happen this way.
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2 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
what you don't realize is the more you type the worse you make it. Stop while you're already behind
Well, there are things I’m saying that’s being taken out of context and your right, I don’t need to give more details to ‘clarify’ , this isn’t about me. I’m just trying to say the George you all seem to know and have convicted. Is not the George I know.
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13 minutes ago, Stu said:
Unmarried Real Men with Honor do NOT put their hands on a women's leg as a hint, wink wink, nudge nudge, PERIOD. Geez!!!
I’ve had guys grab my hand, put their hand on my leg, give me the kind of hug that I know what’s happening and yes, just lean in for the kiss. You maybe are not a single woman in her 50’s in the dating scene. Most men are divorced and had spent a good portion of their marriage in a ‘touch-free’ zone, so when they are free to roam the country they are real sure what they don’t want. So touching is real important to them and I counsel all my friends to be careful out there in the dating world! I wish it were not the case. Men that are the safest are usually the widowed men, they as a rule do not have, PTMD!
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5 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
oh dear i mentioned i said hello to him at Sheetz. how gossipy. oh horrors.
I mean I said Hi to Terri and Big W at DCA this past September. if I mention that here, am i gossipy too? wait...i went to pay my respects when Jim's wife passed away...even gave him a hug ( even if he came up to my armpits). Is that gossipy?
Personally the saddest thing in this whole sordid mess outside of whats happened to the 12 women is the damage done to people are close to people close to Hopkins. Talk about collateral damage...people I have known my whole life tainted by association, yet did not one ###### thing wrong.
or the kids in C2 now without a corps. or the kids that were in CWP or CWG.
You are taking things to the extreme and that was not my intention. We had this discussion on another page were I started that it was hearsay run amoke. This could have all been handled differently. But in a lose-win scenario... someone had to be put down for not, as they say, not taking the draw. It could have been handled different. It wasn’t. I know there are no accidents but this is going to be a very long drawn out distracting, destructive and expensive situation. I just wish and I still pray that there is still a way. But George’s life has been destroyed, so that’s already done.
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4 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
you'd love to know what was said, I am sure. That's ok. hey I even ran into him at Sheet the Monday after East in 2015....Asked why he wasn't with the corps, and he said he took the day off to recharge. I wished the corps well, got in the car and went to work. Strange things happen in Mechanicsburg
No I wouldn’t like to know, because unlike you. I don’t gossip about other people’s business.
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2 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
I do coffee gatherings with realtors i work with all the time. I don't put my hand on them. Heck I asked my wife if i could kiss her for the first time after she basically gave me every opportunity for 4 hours and i was too afraid i'd screw up.
People who are married should NOT be putting their hand on any women’s leg except for their wives! Period. George was not married. Geez!
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1 minute ago, BRASSO said:
Well, when he put his hand on your leg at dinner, its good to know you figured out pretty quickly righrt then and there that he had some " ideas" in mind for you that I'm sure he was just burning to discuss with you.
The point to be taken, as I am a fairly attractive women. I said no and he respected that response.
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Just now, Jeff Ream said:
I kinda know significant people in his life the last few years. Like all my life known them.
But hey, conversations were happening...and it does look like someone wasn't listening
Did you guys talking about his business at least make a quilt?
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Obviously you didn’t read my earlier posts. As a single female who goes on lots of ‘coffee’ dates. Men are very forward. I usually make direct eye contact an tell them to not try anything. Seriously, as often I am surprised how men tend to not listen, thus I meet in very public places.
I don’t think destroying a mans life and throwing him in jail is an appropriate response. If he’s a perv then we need to build lots and lots of jails. Women take over and I guess maybe keep a couple of men around. Your response is draconian at best.
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20 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
I wasn’t aware of a break. I mean the season had ended but not much else if I recall past blog or social media posts.
Learn something new new every day
Wow, so is it his duty to report his every move and thought to you? To Facebook? Not being in the world of drum corps gossip, all of this in other people’s business is foreign to me. I just don’t think gossip and hearsay serves anyone or anything... entertainment at the expense of others?
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31 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
Odd. Per past statements you hadn’t met him until late 2017. I didn’t realize they had taken a “break”.
Oh Jeff, I didn’t realize you kept track of George’s personal life.
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4 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
Odd. Per past statements you hadn’t met him until late 2017. I didn’t realize they had taken a “break”.
Dinner was late September 2017. I think I’ve said this multiple times. I wasn’t meeting him to ask him about his personal life, I was meeting him to discuss ideas that I had.
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1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:
I hope he wasn’t in a relationship at the time
I didn’t really know him, just from his live-streams... and only noticed there was no ring on his finger. But, it was just dinner... so.
Later I did find out he was on a break from his GF but I never asked him as it wasn’t my business. But like I said, I was just having dinner... and he became a friend where we spoke of, well my ideas about how he could fundraise and ... prayer and why it is so important.
Well, not to repeat myself... he wasn’t very happy and that lead into the conversation about his constant life of harassment by this angry group of Alumni. In my naive way, I thought of all kinds of ways to make peace with everyone... build a bigger tent!!! You can say I’m a dreamer... I still believe.
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6 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
“I brought tissues, too. Probably more tissues than you. I also brought paper towels, a beach towel, a sponge, and a shamwow.”
So there’s that.
I thought of her when I was typing and laughed.out loud... I was just trying to fit in. Pardon.
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1 minute ago, Terri Schehr said:
I was pretty shocked when I saw him on the news.
When Charles Manson was 14 years old and at the Gibraltar School for boys in Terre Haute IN. The priest would bring him and a couple of other boys to St. Leonard’s church where Imy family attended ( I was not born yet) The priest would bring the boys to my Aunts house after Church for lunch. That was Manson’s only know documted exposure to religion. Not Gacy... but Manson. So, there’s that.
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6 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Sexual assault seems objective???? Good lord lady go get some training so you know what you are talking about. Here is a small piece courtesy of Uncle Sam. If someone says or does something sexual you don’t like and you (or someone speaking for your behalf) says to stop it and that person does not stop it that is sexual harassment. It someone physically touches you in any way and does not stop when you tell them to then that is sexual assault. What the hades is “objective” about that?
If the person doing it does not think it is assault or harassment T.S.... the Person who is receiving makes the call. Bottom line if you don’t stop when told to stop.. guilty
I said Subjective. and yes, if a person says no and the others person doesn’t stop then yes, that would be assault. I have been assaulted in my life but have never been quiet about it.
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Well, then first person experience, I had dinner with George, he put his hand on my leg, I grabbed it and pushed it away, I said no and guess what he did???? Your not going to believe it. He respected me and did not pursue that. That’s my experience. So there’s that.
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I honestly believe George when he says he did not rape anyone. I do. Sexual assault... that seems subjective. Sounds to me, if you go out to a bar and have drinks with a guy and he kisses the girl WITHOUT asking for permission to do so.. is that sexual assault? We don’t have enough jails if that’s the case! And then there is the orchestration. Was everyone just hanging out at DCI East and start sharing stories and then say, hey let’s go to the press, or better yet, let’s give George an ultimatum to walk away from the corps or then we will go to the press. It’s just the evidence point a different direction. Who had the motive? Who has been a non stop flow of threats...
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The court is for evidence... not DCP.
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20 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Translation: I believe everything GH says. Fine....
I’m sure all the details will come out in the trial. Including the allegations that involve a lot more than just a kiss....
You are so correct about evidence!
But, whatever happens, Georges life has been destroyed. So there is that.
But, hey the Corps is fine and the N Jersey Alumni are just peachy.
And everyone online has been very entertained!
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3 minutes ago, LeftCoastCupcake said:
The difference between your two stories is CONTEXT and CONSENT. There is also a difference between your 'stories' and abuse grooming within a power dynamic. It actually saddens me that you are unable to tell the difference.
I gave that man NO consent and as far as a power play, he was/is quite rich and famous... I’m just a nerdy minion computer programmer. So there is that.
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Let me give some context to #metoo as it recently applied to ME TOO, as well as possibly giving a context to the GH accusers. I’m single and have been online dating for years. I never drink alcohol and am careful about my cell phone/address/license plates etc... even doing a background check before COFFEE! I met a guy (Famous Public figure) in a Museum coffee shop. I’m VERY upfront, as most time I look the guy in the eye and say, don’t try to kiss me. As much as I may think I’m a teflon Philly girl... believe it or not guys will still try to sneak a kiss! This guy was intelligent and accomplished and easy to converse with. He asked if wanted to see the exhibit, I said sure. As the elevator emptied and we entered, my sixth sense said, on no. Never be alone with a man you don’t have complete trust in and sure enough he kissed me, quite forcefully or he may have thought... passionately. I pushed him back and I politely said, we have a misunderstanding. I ended the date and drove home. I was in shock and was affected for days. I unplugged from all media and felt such guilt for being so stupid to let that occur. When discussing with a girlfriend she said, That’s sexual assault. You could press changes against him. I’m like ... for... a kiss? She said YES. Then I thought, omg, his life would be turned upside down. Over, ... a kiss? I remembered when I was 27 on a blind date and walking along the Chicago river, Patrick pushed me up against the building and kissed me, much like this guy did. I was shocked and... I loved it. We went on and had a wonderful LT relationship. I realized ... maybe that’s what guys do to see if the girl likes them. Kiss the girl. You’ll find out quickly where you stand. I also don’t recall a guy ever saying to me, “May I kiss you?”. So, should I have pressed charges? Went to the press? Destroyed his career? I mean, I guess it was assault? Yes? No? Someone told me late in 2018 about one of George’s accusers was kissed by George and he didn’t ask permission AND OTHERS had seen him kiss a girl without first asking permission. I said, and you feel this is assault and he said ABSOLUTELY! Like loose you career and be publicly shamed and sent to jail? Over ... a kiss? Are you kidding me? Then, he said, well, the corps has moved on and is a much better place now...
Yes... Mission Accomplished, N. Jersey Alumni. You found a way in this society we live in ...
to get rid of George.
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20 minutes ago, year1buick said:
I don’t think the DA is basing their case on FB posts or the angry rants from disgruntled alumni.
20 minutes ago, year1buick said:I don’t think the DA is basing their case on FB posts or the angry rants from disgruntled alumni.
You are CORRECT. There is plenty of evidence for this trial!
In The News – Allentown Cadets’ Former Leader Calls Sex Assault Accusations ‘Orchestrated Smear’
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Wow, so much for acknowledging a persons growth and awareness. I bet you would have happily cast a whole bunch of stones, at the woman who was an adulterer! You must be comfy in your glass house.
There are two kinds of people, those who sin and acknowledge it and those that sin and don’t acknowledge it. The George I met acknowledged he was in error in many of his past dealings with his abruptness with others. He was looking for ways to ‘fix’ that.
Im glad your not in charge of this world! YOU would burn everything and everyone down... no mercy given.