contraguard05
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5 minutes ago, greg_orangecounty said:
Yes, yes, I've heard the explanation. Mr. Ream kindly explained to me how teaching in modern Drum Corps works. I "get it" but don't understand why. Instead of paying stipends to 17 people how about hiring 1 or 2 full-time to stay all summer? Which one of the 17 do you listen to. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
I see a lack of cohesion in color guard. This one's throwing a quadruple, that one's doing pirouettes, while the other is doing flag work all at the same time. It's as if they're independent of each other. (Preface: Boston is the exception and sometimes Blue Devils). Makes me wonder if the revolving door of instructors is the cause.
I do love modern drum corps it just puzzles me sometimes.
By hiring instructors to stay on all summer, you preclude them from lines of work that are NOT teaching. This is particularly challenging for color guard people, as we do not teach it as a class for any real compensation outside of Texas and a few select suburbs. I can't think of an office job that would give me the whole summer off to go on tour, nor could I imagine being away from my young children for that long.
Regarding your comment about the lack of cohesion, that is by design. Multiple lines in music call for multiple visual elements, so 15 minutes of unison would not live up to the depth and complexity of what we are hearing. That would also make the big moments far less impactful because we'd already seen so much unison. The flag hit from SCV 2017 is a great example of this.
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14 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:
I love Madison, and wish them a return to glory soon.
And there are two things I will never understand; the tattoo obsession and the number of instructors required in modern Drum Corps for a single section.
I've gotten to work with two groups. Both times I was only available for a couple of weeks, as were the majority of the staff. I showed up, worked with them when I could, then went home. Same with everybody else. We generally had 5-6 guard instructors in front of the students on any given day. That breaks down to a dance person, 1-2 weapon people, 1-2 flag people, and someone in the tower. About the same as what it was when I marched and had the same five people on the road with us all summer long, minus the burnout.
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On 2/26/2024 at 1:50 PM, HockeyDad said:
And who would that be? Nobody says that.
By play Malaguena, I mean plug your ears and cover your eyes to how much the activity has changed since that was a recipe for success.
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19 hours ago, HockeyDad said:
“Generous with their opinions and miserly with their checkbooks.”
Classic. So true in many many organizations.
100% the vibe of the "playing Malaguena will fix everything" contingent of Madison alumni.
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On 2/6/2024 at 7:25 PM, MM2006 said:
They keep letting this clown work places. Have fun with this one, troopers!
There is the possibility that he needs to be with the right group of people to produce results. I don't think Troopers(who have proven capable of making finals without him) would have brought him on board if he didn't bring something to the table. I'll wait until we see the show.
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On 12/11/2023 at 1:06 PM, 2muchcoffeeman said:
to a Dance with the Devil
The UB40 tune? I wasn't expecting that 😅
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39 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Was that “Judas”? I can’t remember.
Yes. I have vague memories of that guard spinning their hands off.
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Between the music and theme, it feels like a mix of Mandarins 23, Colts 22, and Madison 2016.
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21 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
So you’re not screaming at the tv because of the bad camera shots like I am. 😂
My favorite is zooming in so close to the guard soloist's face that you can't actually see their solo 🤦♂️
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On 12/1/2023 at 3:51 PM, OldSnareDrummer said:
What kind of other things does Box 5 offer for their price?
It can't be as good and riveting as the National Jr High School Mixed Doubles Thumb Wrestling Championships they offer on Flo.
Camera crews with a working knowledge of the marching arts. IE: not zooming in on the rack player during a tacet while the horn line or guard is doing something major.
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16 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
it's majority older alumni who complain about anything after (insert year here) they stopped marching
It's like the Douglas Adams quote on technology:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that’s invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you’re thirty-five is against the natural order of things.
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1 minute ago, JimF-LowBari said:
That would be wasting key strokes and doubt he has any anecdotal info anyway. One of those “my mind is made up so don’t bother me with facts” types.
The claim sounded pretty outrageous so thought I’d share.
You're right, it is absurd. And that person hasn't earned the time you would spend researching it for them. Short of surveying a substantial portion of auditionees across multiple organizations, I can't think of a way to gather that kind of information.
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The burden of proof is on the accuser. Tell them to provide non-anecdotal evidence.
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How difficult would it be to set up a marching arts endowment? Could member organizations pay into it for a period of time? Could the 3 main governing bodies (DCI, WGI, BOA) all benefit from it?
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1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
If SCV makes it to Indy I think that they will be lucky to make finals.
We’ll see.If they were able to retain the brain trust they've had the last few years, they should be able to attract enough performing talent and make finals.
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Just now, craiga said:
Maybe somebody poached him.
Any chance BK picked him up as well as Lymon?
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Aaron Witek leaves Cadets for Crossmen, where he marched. Great dude and educator, this is a win for them.
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2 hours ago, LabMaster said:
That’s what I heard. I hear there are more shoes to drop?
Guard staffs tend to move as a herd. Wouldn't be surprised if more of that crew moved on as well.
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11 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
Didn’t he come in to clean up serious issues there?
That's my understanding. After the band went too far, he was brought aboard to right the ship.
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12 hours ago, Grandpa Joe said:
They rehired Right Hook Snyder. I don't think they care honestly. Could be wrong.
I got to spend time on the road with him a few years ago. He doesn't treat members the same way as a security guard on a power trip.
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29 minutes ago, arabica said:
Tell more!
Building on The Doctoress' accurate assessment, I recommend watching Onyx 2010-2014, 2017, and 2019. They are on their own planet and you can't look away.
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Interesting. Onyx is brilliant, and a VERY particular flavor of color guard. Will be fun to see how next year's program develops.
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51 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
Can't disagree. But seeing that staff list definitely made me very interested in seeing what would end up on the field.
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8 minutes ago, Boss Anova said:
The best at the practice of “ poaching “( hate that word , but some New Kids on the Block like to use.this pejorative , so why not ) was the Star of Indiana . They set the standard for making attractive contract and freedom of creativity outreach to who they wanted to design and track h there .
The Star of Indiana as a start up Corps in 1984 with a 1 million dollar gift from millionaire Bill Cook of Indiana went out and immediately “ poached “ Music Arranger Jim Mason from the Colts , then “ poached “ visual design icon George Zingali , also Marc Sylvester Drill writer and Michael Cesario Guard and Visuals from the Cadets . Then Star of Indiana “poached “that same year Dennis DeLucia ,Percussion Arranger away from the Bridgemen . It was one full swoop of Drum Corps All Star Staff , in one year alone and Star was off and running . Nothing has come close before or since in bringing in All Star staff from outside the Corps to one Corps in all 5 sections of Music Writing Visuals Writing , Brass , Percussion and Guard .
I think the next best thing was when SCV announced that they had hired Michael Gaines, Andy Toth, Adam Sage, JD Shaw, and Paul and Sandi Rennick.
Meet the 2024 Madison Scouts Color Guard Team
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You're not alone in that sentiment, I love a good flag feature as well, and so do the crowds. It might be envy as a low brass person, but I love hearing screamers at important moments. But you don't top a steak with another steak, otherwise you'd get whole shows like this:
https://youtu.be/-UxdCqOWVcA?si=sKWETwZNtM96Nx_C