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  1. If that's the case, how in the world did Cadets medal?

    It's not black-and-white, just shifting that direction. I was surprised last year after hearing many tapes that the Visual Performance caption has become a field "Visual Ensemble/Guard" caption. It was extremely rare that unified marching technique or corps proper timing was EVER addressed.

  2. No need to admonish anyone here -- this quite well-behaved by DCP standards :)

    Yeah. I don't think anyone's saying a certain corps deserves more credit for what they do. We're all appreciative of the hard work they are putting in and their performance qualities. It's really just throwing around personal philosophical ideas and observations.

  3. You can't honestly say that you have seen the show......seriously, standing half the show?? Pretty unfair don't you think?

    I can see where he's coming from, but before everyone gets down my throat, I'm just comparing to my feelings from last year with Crown...

    At the beginning of last year I thought Crown stood still A LOT. It couldn't believe it. Well, by the end of the season they added, and changed, and I was COMPLETELY sold. I LOVED their show and felt the amount of variety and flow was fantastic. They have moments where they move like crazy and moments of wonderful artistry.

  4. Regarding (1)

    I suggest you talk to some of the Crown hornline about whether the dance is easier or harder than marching :) Take note that Crown *plays* during all that dance. The body control required to go from standing to prone (twice) while maintaining the amazing tone quality Crown produces is remarkably difficult (physically and mentally). Or better -- just try doing it.

    Regarding(2)

    I think that used to be true. It's not anymore.

    Good point. I agree that it can be just as challenging, just in a different way. By endurance, I really meant to say cardiovascular endurance.

    I just know that if I was marching for 2 1/2 minutes at 200 bpm, my lungs and heart would relish the chance to mix it up and do some body work.

  5. When I marched that "stand still" dancing stuff was referred to as "rest". The marching and playing is much more impressive to me than dancy pantsy.

    Jonathan

    Agreed, plus a couple of quick thoughts on the subject.

    I LOVE the choreography that Crown is doing. That ensemble stuff they had in Puck was fantastic and I wish I had the opportunity to do that. I know there are many arguments that make the dancing just as valid as marching, but here's a couple against it.

    1) Physical endurance. Yes, mentally it's challenging and adds variety. However, I do consider it MAJOR rest time. I still love watching 93 Cadets because they never stop moving. The biggest wow factor for me is, "OMG they never stop!"

    2) Hornline "dancing" is not held to the same standard as marching. You can be dirtier than a newborn diaper, but you'll still get credit. It's expected to be close to perfect to get Box 5 in marching, but as long as you're close in dancing, you're fine.

    With all that said, I'm REALLY excited hearing about all three shows. BEST of luck to the three C's this summer, and everyone else for that matter.

  6. So here's a question...

    Given the improvements in the program since it was released, has anyone actually drill for a real uni onthis to see how it works??

    I mean, there are some VERY talented designers putting shows up (Pedazos comes to mind....wonder who he is in the real world).

    One thing I would LOVE to see is the ability to rewind a set and run it slow to see HOW the #### things are moving....

    I don't really understand your first question. As far as rewinding and watching in slow motion, if you watch the shows on a slow computer or an iphone it will be slow motion for you.

    There's also a new section on there where some people are displaying their signatures 'moves' and how to do them. Each has it's own explanation and it's called DML I think.

    You're right about Pedazos, he does a fantastic job and has picked up some gigs from the website. I almost got my foot in the door in Texas for drill writing. It was too late and fell through. I'm Adrian on MML. It's fun to write on there and try things out. I know I'm seriously looking to write for real within the next couple years.

  7. Here's some cool info about Texas that may persuade in the voting.

    - The 2005 Cadets had 7 members from the University of Texas alone.

    - The late 90's Cavaliers had a very high percentage of their drum line from Texas.

    - There's a ton of people who march in corps from Texas, can't name all of them.

    - We created an indoor drum corps show to compete in the talent show called "40 Acre Sound". We played a great

    arrangement of Malaguena with plenty of screaming trumpets and I wrote the drill.

    - We have played the Madison Scouts arrangements (note for note) of El Toro Caliente (1995) and Malaguena

    (1996). El Toro was played at The Rose Bowl. I played the solos, which were soooo much fun.

    - To give you an idea of the talent in the band, here's a stat about the trumpet section. Going down my line, not chair order, the first 6 players were either 2 or 3 year Texas All-State trumpet players. There were more and it's like this in most sections.

    - The Longhorn Band doesn't move a whole bunch (show band), but boy can they play.

  8. The only problem with moving them up to 2nd that I have is even after for being stationary for so much of the show (it really is an obscene amount), they start bailing out at the end of show. With all the rest time in the show, they really should not have had any endurance issues at the end. Another problem is that much of the harder playing was restricted to small ensembles/solo's while the hornline was tacet. There was just too much to pick at to have them be any higher. Cadets were very good no doubt, but people fail to see why they placed as low as they did.

    Yeah, I have to clock in on this on too. You're welcome to your own opinion and I can see that being an opinion when you have The Cadets at a possible 2nd. When you put them third though, there's something you are blatantly trying to not see.

    I would like to point out one thing with the brass scores that year. The Cadets and Blue Devils went head to head almost every show that year. The Cadets won brass EVERY show for almost the last month, except for Finals and Semis. Plus, when they won those shows in brass it was usually around half a point (basically, not even close).

    To my ears (my opinion) it's not even close to who should have won brass that year. I LOOOVE BD horn lines, but they weren't in the same ball park that year. I can feel safe putting BD 04 up over Cadets 01, but not BD 01. No way, no how.

  9. It's been a while since I've posted, but I just wanted to chime in on one thing.

    What is more offensive to me is all the people strongly defending the actions that took place, not the action itself. As for the Cavalier in the picture, that's offensive for sure. However, I can just blow that off to some guy who made a bad decision and needs to grow up a bit. Where I start to loose some respect for the organization as a whole is from the members and FMMs who come on here defending these actions to, "we just like to have fun".

    I have many friends who marched in The Cavaliers, some of them big name alumni, and have had the chance to talk with them. They are all very respectful and understand how someone could be offended by that, rather belittling my opinions by telling me to get over it. Some have even seen the picture and apologized to me directly without me bringing it up. There have been a number on here that have owned up and shown their apologies for their corps actions. However, there have been so many blowing this off, including some of their big names. That is were I start to loose faith in how much character The Cavaliers have as an organization.

    I KNOW that members of SCV, Phantom, or The Cadets would ALL feel embarrassed about this situation. They have learned how to respect their competitors and more importantly, themselves. I can keep the benefit of the doubt in this situation as I hold many Cavalier members in deep respect. However, the number of people blindly defending this topic with such self-confidence is quite disturbing. That is what is most offensive to me.

    Edited to clear up one sentence.

  10. A different method of achieving the same (or better :blink: ) look would be a considered a different technique, wouldn't it...

    Yes, of course it's different. What I'm trying to say is that they are about as similar as you can get between two different techniques. BigSnareline said earlier that he doesn't like straight leg. I would assume that when that is said it usually clumps a group of techniques together, BD's being one of them. After that he said he enjoyed BD's technique, as anyone should. :)

    What it seems the he really should've said was, "I don't like how The Cadets march". That's all fine and dandy too as it's easy to understand where he's coming from without even asking.

  11. Devils march glide step not straight leg. :blink:

    Honestly, you can get into all the technicalities of it if you want. When it comes down to it, they are extremely similar and pretty close to the same technique. This coming from a guy who's had many professional discussions with people from each camp trying to figure out how best to teach it. A key point that I picked up on is that the main difference is that they are taught with a different emphasis...and that the Blue Devils usually look better (more relaxed) doing it.

  12. Ok, I tried PMing this, but that was disabled for the user. So, here it is publicly, with some slight modifications.

    BishTom,

    First of all, thanks for all the time and hard work you spent volunteering. I can't tell you how much we all appreciated everything you did. I'm sure you saw everyone's eyes light up when that cooler full of ice came to the truck.

    Regarding that volunteer posting, I understand where you're coming from. My mother volunteered once at the same corps, and I put a emphasis on ONCE. She came to volunteer but her main motivation was to be there with me and watch us rehearse, while volunteering her time otherwise. She felt the same type of rude "pressure" from a couple individuals that did not make the experience truly rewarding for her. The thing that seems to be lost is that it is volunteering. The expectation for what a person should do is really nothing and them volunteering their time, however much that may be, is above and beyond.

    I get how frustrating it can be that some work less than others, but when you really think about the spirit of volunteering, should that even matter in the slightest bit? There are two reasons why I think this corps don't get as many volunteers as they're truly capable of. You know the first one for sure, and the second is that the newer volunteers can get treated like work horses. Not everyone works the same way so it seems like we should be happy that they're even on tour, spending their time getting to love and help the corps.

    I'm curious to see if you feel any of these same sentiments. Also, is there anything that I am missing in this whole situation. As of right now it seems a bit uncalled for. Either way, thanks again for your appreciated time. I know I personally looked forward to having you on tour.

    Adrian

  13. the brass was super under Gino, who was with Cadets from 00 - 03 then he went to SCV in 04 and after the Cadets brass was less then par in 04 he was back at Cadets in 05 where he presently is.

    Cadets did win brass in 05 along with every other caption.

    Nope, nope and nope.

    Gino was with The Cadets in 00, and 01. He then went to Magic of Orlando in 02 and SCV in 04. Plus, most people do not consider Cadets 04 under par. It was a different style and many consider them up there on the most underrated list for hornlines.

  14. Haha.

    Honestly though, sorry for bringing the thread down. :) Feel free to hold that against me if you like, I'll understand.

    I can't wait to EVERY show this summer. The more I get involved, the more corps I learn about and start to love. Good luck to everyone on tour and have a blast!

  15. Cadets 2000: REAL.

    Keep thinking your conspiracy theories, but it was real. The resting from the one line was to allow the other line to switch back and forth. They did in fact play while someone else was moving the valves.

    Cadets 2007: STAGGERED.

    The part is written like it is in the original score of Symphonic Movement. I wouldn't call it trickery, just smart writing on Nelhybel's part. It's not just one part, but different parts switching back and forth. Each part is written with 5 16th notes, one downbeat to the other. One part plays it on 1 and 3, and one plays it on 2 and 4. The notes switch around, but that rhythm pretty much stays the same throughout for both parts. It's still tough to put together and impressive to watch them perform it.

  16. Wow, that was great! Go ABC.

    The Hughes family was in Indy for a presentation by BOA in November and I was lucky enough to meet Patrick and his Dad. I thanked Patrick for a very moving moment and the first thing he did was ask my name with a confident firm hand shake. He is one of the most remarkable people I've ever met. The most obvious thing to me when we met was how genuinely caring he was, something that entire family is a prime example for. Needless to say, I'm very excited to see them get some well-deserved loving support.

  17. Umm, no, the crowd didnt eat it up, many found it inappropriate.

    ~G~

    I'll give you how many found parts of it innapropriate. Many felt the opposite.

    I'm truly curious as to the answer, but name a bigger genuine crowd reaction than the end of Boogie Woogie in the last 5 years. And it can include the end of a show as well. To me that section gives a pretty good definition of "eating it up".

  18. This looks very similar to my 2004 ring, though mine has an onyx stone, and instead of the year on one side and Brass on the other, both sides have the DCI logo, with 2004 on one side and 007 on the other.

    I remember it being stated that Cavalier championship rings alternate with regards to the stone chosen (among a black, clear, and green stone), but the '04 ring has an onyx, and I'm pretty sure the 2006 ring does as well. IIRC, the '01 ring has a clear stone, and the '02 ring a green stone. I'm not sure about the other years.

    Cool, thanks for the info. I was thinking it'd be ridiculous if you got "The Zone: Dreamscapes in four parts with a door" put on the side of ours. 007 makes a much nicer fit.

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