devsabre
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14 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
Not sure what you are referring to but agree Sean King was put through hell, unfortunately. Time will tell on the other stuff. You believe DCI is doing enough and have limited authority to act. And while this is better I do not think they are doing enough. You have your opinion. I have mine. Time will tell.
I love your "enough" comments. You never seem to point out what would be "enough" or how specifically, all that needs to be done should be done, soup-to-nuts. I get it, you want more. Either do more yourself or outline "exactly" what you want to see done. My main issue with your comments, is that they lack context. You want to apply a cookie cutter to DCI that YEA has used. There is a simple reason why that has not happed...it won't work.
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25 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
i call a spade a spade. you can always click ignore.
My Bad Jeff, i was indorsing your comment, not poking at it. The lack of MusicManNJ's quote was missing from my post. I made a similar comment to MusicManNJ earlier in the thread.
Please carry on.
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10 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
While far from a dci apologist, I’m not sure you’re even giving DCA half a chance. We get it: you want dan out. Most likely benefits you or someone close to you if it happens.
this new process isn’t even 5 months old. No one said it’d be perfect
Oh Wait, someone new questioning your motives...SUPRISE!
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15 hours ago, Bluzes said:
Then don't act like you work for dci, If you read other posts that support the facts about what was being discussed about the Military. You would be able to tell facts from fiction, in this case, you overreacted and was wrong. No big deal now put your enthusiasm to help fix things that are broke.
hehehe...yea, that's what your doing, fixing things. You surmized I worked for DCI...interesting; no idea how you got there. Which overreacting are you referenceing? I guess you don't like questions. Moving on...
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6 minutes ago, Bluzes said:
Does anything get proved here, what's the point, why are you shocked you started it, what proof are you looking for. Do you work for dci and think I am going to throw insults your way to strike me out? I will foul ball you to death, get over it. Try a new tactic I am game. And your worries here fix dci problems, how?
Yes, things get proved, some people have facts. I dont like BS, happy to call people on it. No, I dont work for DCI. Good luck foul balling me. I've never mentioned fixing DCI. Regardless, I don't need to fix DCI.
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4 minutes ago, Bluzes said:
Why is this important to you? I didn't call you a freeloader, said our Military is not a freeloader and did pay for their sponsorship
Do the math...
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6 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
YOURRRRREEEEEEEE FFFIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Oh yea!
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1 minute ago, Bluzes said:
Think about what you want. FJM sells uniforms pays dic to have their banner shown. So do all the banner companies you see in the back of the field. The Marines pay as well. Where do you think Marine MMs come from. Why did we hear all year on FLO that the Marines and I will take it one step further the Army bands are also sponsors. Were both looking for musicians? Do you not like our military and want to think they are a bunch of freeloaders go right ahead. If you are looking for a copy of the cashed check, oh well.
I would not call myself a freeloader so that answers that. The Marines don't have a recruiting problem. I find it very unlikely the DoD would allow the Marine Corps (or the Navy, by extension) to give a dime to DCI on their behalf. I guess you don't have any proof, no shock there.
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6 minutes ago, Bluzes said:
Check the dci program book lately where they thank their sponsor the Marines. They didn't sponsor Dan's citizenship not trying to be his guardian. Sponsorship means they gave money.
Not true, sometimes sponsorship is association without any funding exchanging hands. I could have sworn the Marines have Drum Corps and DCI is a Drum Corps organization...Nice try, proof please.
*spelling*
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6 minutes ago, Bluzes said:
The proof is the banners at all the shows alongside FJM and Innovative Percussion and the like, they pay dci for that space, as a sponsorship besides thanking them as the end of the show, its real
That's not proof! Try again
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1 minute ago, MusicManNJ said:
My motives are clear and have been since I started commenting on this topic in April. Clean up the activity so it is safe for the members and may go on to a healthy future. Stop the hiding, stop the protection, stop the covering for others who have acted/behaved inappropriately. There are more skeletons to come out. Instead of waiting for the reporters to find them... bring them out. Be accountable. Take action. Move on. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
I fully agree with the sentiment. But I'm not big on "opinion driven" results. I prefer the facts, thus my questions. I'm also big on "talk is cheap" and prefer "doing." I would prefer to not throw stones as I live in a Glass House. I won't point out what is wrong without a potentially useful fix action. My comments are not meant to disparage you...but to be honest up to now I could not clearly define you're intent.
On with the Rowing..."...row well and live..."
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2 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
A direct response. Not a misdirect. If you read the reporting you will see how DCI has been portrayed. Contrast that with YEA/Cadets.
You've answered zero of my questions to you. My comment stands.
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21 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
Ask the reporters how DCI has handled/responded the various situations they have been dealing with in the media. Compare how they describe DCI's approach to that of YEA. I am certain that "truth" and "transparency" will not be terms they use for DCI. The next logical question becomes: Why is DCI responding in this way?
More misdirect... I question your motives. Nothing to see here...
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9 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
Lets look at what the reporter has to say:
Not sure anyone would say DCI has handled the issues facing the organization in this manner.
Quote Garfield: Twice
"...cover up..."? Wow. Some mighty big, powerful, and unproven contentions in your post."
"Again, DCI would applaud how Cadets have handled their situation and, I'd lay you odds, the DCI BoD would applaud how Dan has handled himself so far.
I think you're confusing what you'd like to see happen with what is actually possible from DCI under the current structure.
YEA! and DCI have different job descriptions; to conflate one for the other is in error regardless of your personal desires."
Ms Farris' indorsement of how YEA has weathered this storm is not an indictment of DCI. You don't have a way ahead other than "do what YEA does?" Fair enough, all involved could perhaps communicate better.
Bottome Line: You have provided no information or data that supports your asertions, nothing you said indicates to the cover up/conspricy in your previous posts or the need to see Dan gone with no "competent" replacement. If you have something more substantive to say...please say it!
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8 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
Not looking at perfection. Just looking for competence.
...and the inconpetence is shown where exactly? If you're thinking the Directors work for DCI, that's NOT the case. If you're thinking DCI can control all the Directors, that's not the case either. What exactly would you like to see DCI do that would reflect "competence" on this issue?
*fixed*
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11 minutes ago, Bluzes said:
Frustrating for me to see Dan beat up every day, he must be thicker skinned than most. If I were him I would pack it in and look back on a wonderful career. Bring in some new blood and not change the structure all we have is a name change.
The real pressure needs to be on those that can affect change in the current structure until the structure is changed. The current structure does not need to be an issue. It's the corps directors not working together. Having separate agendas not having their priorities in line with each other. Not having any oversight that pulls them in focus. Adults that are risking their own lively hood because they collectively can't get their #### together. That simple, If a consulting firm does come in that is what they will discover, where does DCP send the consulting invoice for all this common sense we expell?
The focus of the directors needs to be on standardized procedures. Define a process for background checks how far do they go into social media. Strike a deal with a single firm that leverages their economies of scale by banding together. Carve out some common funding that is to be used for a medical staff for all the corps, care for each other for the good of their corps/all the corps/dci/mms and the fans. Directors being just ships in the night contributed to where we are today.
On Target! Agree 100% on Dan. Collaborate, focus on the collective good, protect the members and activity as a whole.
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20 hours ago, MusicManNJ said:
I really wish you were right. But from what I have been privy to I do not think so. I believe the media is now driving this story. Attempts to have the corps/DCI become proactive instead of reactive have fallen on deaf ears. That is why DCI has had to put out press releases to clean up fro previous press releases. This is why I believe Dan A needs to be replaced and more independent directors elected. The corps directors are calling the shots and it all centers on self interest/self preservation not realizing that taking this stance will only make it worse when the stories continue to cascade forth... which they will. Not a matter of if... just when. The effects of a coverup is always worse than that of the original incident.
"I really wish you were right."
- You've provided no data or information to bolster your perspective or disprove other points of view.
"But from what I have been privy to I do not think so."
- Such As...?
"I believe the media is now driving this story."
- No kidding, that's what the media does. However, which story are you focusing on, the greater issue, April 2018 YEA, YEA now, Pioneer, or something else?
"Attempts to have the corps/DCI become proactive instead of reactive have fallen on deaf ears."
- I'm assuming you've been engaged at some level with an organization on this issue. What did you try to do and how did it turn out so poorly?
"That is why DCI has had to put out press releases to clean up fro previous press releases. This is why I believe Dan A needs to be replaced and more independent directors elected."
- I'm not a conspiracy guy, I don’t buy that DCI spends a great deal of its time covering its behind to hide the truth. Again, if you want perfection, inform DCI how they should be doing it or, go down there take a job on DCI's staff and do it yourself. I love how people think, “Fire This Guy” will solve a problem. It may solve issues generated by an individual but someone has to fill the void. The job Dan is doing is a very important one and it needs to be done by someone competent. We’ve seen the same faulty logic applied on DCP, ref the Madison Scouts. Regardless, who do you propose should take over the Directorship of DCI? I don’t understand your “independent directors” comment, can you explain that?
"The corps directors are calling the shots and it all centers on self interest/self preservation not realizing that taking this stance will only make it worse when the stories continue to cascade forth... which they will. Not a matter of if... just when. The effects of a coverup is always worse than that of the original incident."
- This comment appears to bash Corps Directors. Unless you’ve done the job, you simply don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Any thought that Directors only have their personal interest in mind is less than ill-informed. People make mistakes but that is not an indictment of our activity or the Directors in total.
Our activity is not half-empty, its well over half-full.
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16 hours ago, MusicManNJ said:
DCI came out with a release AFTER the media had contacted them. Not before. This is reactionary. DCI has been told by many professionals to get their PR house in order. They have chosen to handle it inside. The result has been... put out a press release. Put out a second to correct issues with the first. They have been terrible at the communications aspects of all of these issues. Some Board members have been complaining about this.
When one does not respond to the press following inquiries this is seen as having something to hide. The scrambling to put out poorly written releases to make it LOOK like you are being proactive to keep things from looking even worse? Yes... that is covering stuff up. Just review all the writings by reporters and you will see the phrase "DCI (or insert name) did not respond to requests for comment)" For today's lesson on how to handle these issues... look to the "Uh Oh" thread about Cadets. YEA handled a problem story perfectly by putting it out before someone could beat them up about something.
Cynical much? You’ve provided no additional facts, no additional specific cases, just commentary what others have reported on within the media and DCI. IMO, what happened at YEA was a positive wake up call to ensure we don’t perpetuate the past and call out what is happening today. Let us know when you find perfection in any walk of life.
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1 hour ago, jthomas666 said:
Wasn't there a good bari solo in 27th Lancer's 1981 Niner-Two?
I was blessed to compete against and see 27th several times that year...he was great.
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1978 Madision Scouts - Baritone Solo performed by Perry Smith in God Bless the Child.
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Would love it if someone would do more of Bernard Herrmann's music from the film North by Northwest. Blue Devil's 2000 use of this music was amazing.
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Phantom Regiment is the best name in DCI, but I've always loved the sound of Santa Clara Vanguard.
Some fun Drum Corps names:
Osage Precisionnaires
Marquis
General Butler Vagabonds
Fox Valley Raiders
Silver Sabers (there were two, one from PA and one from KS)
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1 – Vanguard – SCV has built a staff, paralleled only by BD. This year, they won their 1st Ott since 1984, and percussion with ~52 age outs from ’17. They didn’t show up in the top 3 overnight. Their 17-18 placements were not flukes, they were the logical progression of a staff that not only gells at a very high level but understands how to field a superior product, recruit talent and teach excellence. Unless they have a major change on staff, expect SCV to dominate DCI, win multiple championships and stay at/near the top.
2 – Blue Devils – ITS BD! They will build a killer program but it won’t be enough to catch SCV. The competition between SCV and BD will be legendary and will make DCI all the more exciting. BD could also “win undefeated after a 2nd place” once again. Will be fun to see.
3 – Crown – Crown will challenge for Brass and Percussion which will help them get them past Bloo and hold off Boston, but issues with visual will hold them back and continue to cause GE shortfalls.
4 – Boston – Boston is for real. Their 17 and 18 programs were amazing and very well performed. A great show design and a little more talent, could put them in to 3rd or 2nd.
5 – Bluecoats – Honestly Bloo has very few performance weaknesses, show design will decide whether they get 4th or 5th as Boston continues to surge.
6 – Cadets – Cadets will be challenged recruiting talent, other than that show designed just won’t be a issue. Don’t be surprised if they push Bloo down a place and take 5th.
7 – Cavaliers – Loved the 17 program, 18 seemed like they were just trying to make a point. Let’s hope they don’t waste all that talent on “statement programs” that are not seamless. An aggressive program with not too many gimmicks and better props integration will serve them well.
8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 – Blue Stars are strong will stay in 8th, Mandarins will move up, Crossmen will remain strong and move up, Blue Knights and Phantom will move down. Spirit could surge and get into finals. Predict Phantom would be the 13th in that case.
Madison – I don’t think a staff and leadership “fire sale” is the best course of action. Hire a Staff Coordinator (with vision) that has the power to ensure a seamless and effective product is on the field, fix financial issues along with living within means, and many issues will resolve themselves. Recruit (staff (where needed) and members) like crazy! - Do these things and a spot in finals could be yours.
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Placements are fun but I hope for a very fun, competitive, and entertaining season.
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- Blue Devils
- Cadets
- Cavaliers
- Bluecoats
- Carolina Crown
- Blue Knights
- Madison Scouts
- Phantom Regiment
- Blue Stars
- Boston Crusaders
- Troopers
- Colts
- Crossmen
- Spirit of Atlanta
- Oregon Crusaders
- Blue Devils B
- Santa Clara Vanguard Cadets
- The Academy
- Pacific Crest
- Jersey Surf
- Mandarins
- Cascades
- Spartans
- Genesis
- 7th Regiment
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NEW DCI Board of Directors
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No doubt! "Its MusicManNJ (new super hero; come on, work with me "Man" is in the name.) - To DCI and beyond. I've come to save the day!"