Morgoth Bauglir
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It will pass next year. Electronics will be part of the 2009 DCI season.
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It's still a good idea to find out what the members want. Aaron, you act like drum corps would exist without the members. Sorry, but it wouldn't. Alienate the actual people on the field performing the show, and this whole activity evaporates until there's nothing left but drill sheets and Sibelius files on arranger's computers. The marchers ARE drum corps. If the members don't like it and don't march, drum corps doesn't exist Aaron.
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I don't like the increase to 150. I feel as if the corps now are already big enough. What more do we need? Is there a section that is necessarily lacking in membership. We DEFINITELY do not need more guard!
Maybe we'll actually see some cymbal lines come back?
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Wow.
I never met an actual mind-reader before. You seem to know.. well.. just everything and especially what my intent and throughts are about anything I ever post... maybe even before I post it!
That's amazing. Does that "gift" keep you up at night?
Stef
You should head over to the CE forum more often. There's mind readers everywhere over there.
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I honestly don't remember anyone saying they couldn't win with 007, just the opposite in fact. Here on DCP, after they announced 007, many were saying that a James Bond show was just begging to be done by the Cavaliers more so than other corps. The Cavaliers had just the right style, attitude, and masculinity to do James bond justice.
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Nope. I always thought they would be 2-3. But I don't think they will win because of their show, not because of their euro-tour. I don't see them, or anyone for that matter, winning with a Billy Joel show. If they did another concept show, they would probably win again. But Billy Joel just doesn't have "championship" written on it. I know, I haven't even seen it yet, but this is just how I think.
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Sometime "just march somewhere else" isn't as easy or appealing as it sounds on an internet forum. Kids have a million different things going on, and all of them cost time and money. I know more than a few people who have tried out at big corps, got cut, and just decided to work in the summer, or do internships, or countless other things. Drum corps is a HUGE commitment, and it's a tough one. New kids don't know how fun it can be. They haven't marched yet. They only see a $2000+ bill, plane tickets every month in the winter, missed classes or school concerts and practices, and 3 months of the year where the real world of friends, family, hanging out, maybe even making money, just doesn't exist. Time and money vanishing at a record pace. Of course they see vids of corps like Cavies or Bluecoats and see the aswesomeness. They know from being in marching band or WGI that corps like these are big deals, and they are probably worth that big commitment. But Marion Glory? Kiwanis(I marched KK btw and loved it)? Oregon Crusaders? These corps just don't seem like you're getting the same bang for your buck(and a big buck at that). They may be wrong, but that is just how it can be seen if you have never marched before. The payoff for marching at a big time corps is seen as worth the time and money. The payoff for marching at a small corps that no one knows about and performs to empty stands is not seen in the same light.
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Should have included a "don't care" option in the second poll.
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If you're a tuba player in the Ohio State Band, you already know if you're going to be dotting the "I," and once it's dotted, it's done with. As much an honor as it might be, it's over as soon as you do it. You don't get a ring for it, you don't have alumni get-togethers to talk about dotting the "I," you probably don't have "dot the 'I' groupies."
Winning the DCI World Championship is forever in your consciousness and memory.
"See that guy dotting the 'I?' That used to be ME!!!"
Bingo.
So 100,000 people see you the one time you dot the i, how many are actually in the stadium to watch the band? How many actually care about the band at all?
At every show all season, every regional, every lot warmup, every high school clinic, and every one of those 20-40,000 people at Finals, they are all they to watch you. At drum corps, there is no other activity that is going on that they came to see, and you're just the sideline entertainment. You ARE the reason they are there. And even if 100,000 people at that one football game you get to dot the i really are there to watch you, there are still more than 100,000 during a drum corps season coming to see you. And 20 years later, they will still talk about your show. No one will talk about who dotted the i this year, 20 years from now.
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Does the OSUMB have a forum with people from around the world talking about the band?
In my eyes, winning Championships is a much more renown-worthy experience. We talk about 1st place shows from 30 years ago. We have people going to see Classic shows in movie theaters. Band kids all of the country recognize a Cavies or BD jacket. If you win Championships, you're on top of the marching world. I just don't see that with a marching band.
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Winning DCI. I really don't care about marching band in the least. And when you're at a football game, you know 99% of the people are there to see the football team, not you. At World Championships, you know all the people in the stands are actually there to watch drum corps.
And Ohio sucks.
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Well I'll be getting my ### kicked in Missouri on April 26, so count me out.
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They would look sweet up close, but the corps would look small on the field. White is a good choice.
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I agree with the early/mid 80's Cadets. I also think that DCI should offer DVD's to some of those people in drum corps that have only seen shows since say, 2000, I think there is a void in people knowing about "old school" drum corps, and so they think that recent shows are the be all, end all of drum corps. I am not saying that modern drum corps isn't great, it is, but there are shows before 2000 and people need to know about them and not think that innovation was not used before 2000.
Just a thought.
I do know about that, and I have many, many of them, I am saying that I believe there is a mentality out there that nothing is cool pre 2000. I own legacy DVD's back to 75, I am not saying this is for me, I am saying there should be an "educational" DVD that is offered for free, which would not happen to those people that for lack of a better phrase "have blinders on."Those are called "opinions". People are allowed to like or not like whatever they want. If one doesn't find old drum corps entertaining, than that's OK. It's their own choice.
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I always wore my watch on my shoe. Not tan lines :)
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Seems like a complete overreaction to a reasonable set of questions to me. Yes, somebody does get to "judge" the validity of a 501c3 designation - the IRS, and the rest of us are certainly free to discuss.
I would bet that behind nearly every non-performing drum corps that continues exist are well-intentioned folks working hard with geniune hopes and expectations to perform again. At the same time the 501c3 status can be ripe for abuse by individuals wishing to create a livelihood under the guise of a good cause. At some point if the "good cause" is not delivered the plug has to be pulled.
Actualy the original post was the over reacts. 'OMG Marion Glory isn't fielding a corp yet they're still fundraising!! Let's kick them out!" Give me a break. MCG can do whatever they want within the confines of their deal with the IRS.
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I am in complete agreement, but where should the line be drawn? Should a corps be allowed to only have 2 people on it's Board of Directors? How long should a corps be "allowed to exist" if they continually fail to field a corps? I know this is more of a hypothetical question, but interested in hearing ya'lls thoughts.
Hey pal, no one gets to decide if a corps is "allowed to exist". Don't want to fund them? Don't donate. DCI does not have the authority to disband corp. They can only choose who is actually a member of DCI. That's it. So if MCG wants to continue to fundrasie with only 2 board members, that's their right. I'm with drumcat, you are in no place to judge or say who is "allowed" to do what just because you don't like it.
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this one is going to be controversial for some, but dont bring religion into rehearsal. i dont care if youre hindu, buddhist, christian, lds, jehovahs witness, and whatever else. Troopers of 2005 know what im talking about. to go along with this, know youre not perfet and dont march a perfect show. be open for criticism.
I'm curious as to what "bringing religion into rehearsal" means exactly. Care to elaborate?
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Well I want to see Scouts 1975, BD 1976, Scouts 1981, Garfield 83-85, BD 1986, Garfield 1987, SCV 88/89, Phantom 1989, Star 1990, Cavies 1990, Cadets 1992-1993, Star 1993, Phantom 1993, Cadets 95-98, Scouts 95-99, Phantom 96, and SCV 99-00 live, but I'll deal.
Word. There are tons of show I would have loved to see live. My first show was in 2001. Seeing BD 96, Scouts 95, or dare I say, Cavies 2000, live would be beyond amazing. But I never will. I'm not going to demand that Cavies perform their 2000 show again(no puns please) just to satisfy me.
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What on earth is the point of this thread?
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don't go from corps to corps and say stuff like: "Well, in (insert corps or band name here) we used to do it like this"
Totally agreed. No matter how awesome you think your previous high school/college/winter drumline/winter guard/marching band/div II corps/senior corps was..NO ONE CARES. Don't talk about it, don't brag about it, and don't tell people why the way you used to do it was better.
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I'm sure it will be entertaining to a lot of people. And I doubt they will get less than 3rd, probably even 2nd. I just don't see a Billy Joel show actually winning.
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I absolutely cannot imagine an amazing Billy Joel show for drum corps, but I know the Cavaliers will do it. How many people were pessimistic when they announced their 007 show in 2004 and then got blown away by it? I know I was one.
If I recall, a lot of people were saying that James Bond show would be perfect of the Cavies, or Madison.
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I love the Cavaliers, I really do. I have supported 100% each of their victories. But I honestly can not see them, or anyone else for that matter, winning with a Billy Joel show. It just doesn't have that bad### jaw-dropping potential.
Let's post cool Jazz Run pictures
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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That BD pic is much more impressive than the Cadets jazz running pic. The BD pic is virtually flawless.