donincardona
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OK, amps, vocals, finances, corps folding are the topics today that generate a lot of heat and posts.
Pick some events from DCs past that would have kicked off the flames and filled up the servers with posts.......
Two to start
1966 American Legion Championships - did the drum sticks really fly????
1975 - Who the #### is Rochester Phoenix and how did they come in 5th at DCA.
in 1966 at the american legion nationals the skyliners did in fact start throwing sticks. joe genero kicked the golden drum he was so mad. the hurcs blocked the exit and played there show right there so nobo0dy could leave. everybody thought that there own corps had one. what a mess. i was in rochester crusaders & we were in between those corps. what a mess but it was fun.
in 75 that was a true quote. joe genero said it. i laughed so hard. at the finals i explained to him what phoenix was. he was flabergasted. phoenix actually came in 4th in the prelims and beat the hurcs which is what prompted the quote.
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Hi Don!
Are you saying all corps got worse or just CRU? I remember Colin cut the snare line from 10 to 6 and it was tres clean!
hi bill. i was in the drumline. i remember the coach doing that. remeber we took high execution drums at prelims. i think that all the corps went downhill that year. i really can't explain why but it just seemed like all the corps had execution problems. i mean it's just my opinion.
how you doin anyway? i haven't seen you in 27 years. i live in ft. myers fl. now. been here for 20 years. been sick for about 10. bad heart.
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1971, marching and playing French Horn, New York Skyliners. In my opinion the best performance by New York that year. The crowd was amazing, as it usually was on the hottest Sunday in August. I remember playing our ending fan-fare and seeing everyone on their feet screaming and yelling (New York). If I recall, one judge had a hard time hearing us from the stands, because of the ovation we got when we left in a company front, to the reprise of Little Old New York, crossing the finish line.
All of the Dream contest gave me great memories from all corps that competed. I used to travel to Jersey City every year while I was in junior corps, OLPH Ridgemen and St. Rocco’s Cadets, just to be part of this GREAT SHOW!
I can go on and on about this, but we should hear from all who competed, and or was a spectator with their memories.
Sometimes I wish I could go back just one more time. Writing and reading these post helps.
i marched with rochester crusaders. we competed at the 71 dream. i was awstruck by that show. i watched the skyliners and in my opinion THAT was the best performance ever that sky did. the horns were so hot i thought they were gonna melt. the drumline did an awsome job that day. i thoufht we did a great performane till i saw sky ....then i knew they would win. in all my years in drum corps i never saw sky do a show like that before or after. they were magnificent. that was wes myers 1st year as drum instrutor & believe me he made a huge difference. i don't know what got into sky that afternoon but i wish i had some of it.
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So, there's no truth to the rumor that Lefty called those 'non preferred' judges "scum sucking sons of motherless dogs"?
thank you NanciD
Jimbalaya
actually dca was formed because hawthorn was winning everything. everyone thought that they had all the judges in thier pocket. it took hawthorne 6 years to win dca. lefty was the brains behind the whole thing and i don't care what revisionist history says. I WAS THERE WHEN IT ALL HAPPENED. case in point in 1966 the cabs won the al championships but sky won dca. the al judges were different from dca judges.
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I dont believe the corps performances were 20 points worse from one year to the next.
Was '74 a different system?
Was it real scoring as opposed to inflated popular numbers in 80s-90s?
Did corps complain or protest?
I always wondered.
I went through DCI judging changes in '83 that made scores drop, it was depressing.
1974
1 Hawthorne Caballeros 83.500
2 Reading Buccaneers 82.150
3 New York Skyliners 77.350
4 Rhode Island Matadors 70.350
5 Rochester Crusaders 67.950
6 Connecticut Hurricanes 66.700
7 Yankee Rebels 65.950
8 Long Island Sunrisers 59.700
9 Guelph Royalaires 56.550
10 Erie Thunderbirds 54.640
11 Hanover Lancers 45.100
12 Emmaus Sentinels 43.050
in 1971 dca added 5 points to the scores of every corps because the scores were low. the judging was a lot tougher in those days. in 1974 the night dca was held the weather was cold. i believe it affected the lips on the hornline. as for me being a drummer i know it affected the drumlines. all the drum scores were low. i remember in 1972 in chigago we....the crusaders.... won the al championship with a score of 82 something. they used real scoring. the next week in schenectady we came in 3rd wth an 88 somthing. if i remember the corps in 74 didn't actually get better as the season progessed they got worse........although nobody will admit it.
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i think it's a great idea. i just wonder why they don't include the 50's & 60"s. they had a great past back then. i remember competing against them back then. i guess drum corps could care less about those times. it's all about now. :(
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Thanks a lot, April. <**>
How the heck am I supposed to get any projects done around the house next year when you announce a program like that...*sigh*...
See ya on November 11th! :)
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i guess i,m out of touch.....i live in fl.now 4 18yrs
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i don't think dca finals would fly in canada
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baltimore is a cool idea. camden yards would be good. i really think roosevelt stadium in jersey city would be great.
rochester crusaders...1967-1972,1975-1977,1980
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if any one wants my opinion i think dca should try rochester or jersey city. they had the biggist crowds in rochester & roosevelt stadium in jersey. i think that dca in penn is gettig real stale. dca needs a change because they have been around the longest.
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there was a lot of anomosity after '72. bruni never could handle sucess in those days. i was one of those asked to leave. i almost joined phoenx. in '75 my buddy collin cambell had gone back to cru so i wen't back to be with him. cru is like the old grey knights........arrogant losers. phoenix was very good in '75. i remember at dca joe genero came to me & said " who the #### is phoenix " . so i told him the story
by the way ........... hows it goin dave martin
don incardona
cru....'67-72, '75-77. 80
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it actually stared long before mt. carmal. it started in the late 60's in ithica ny. those were great exhibitions. in the last week of may :P
crusaders......67-72, 75-77, 80
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wow then my dad's older than you. he started in 62 and ended in 78
well YOUR still a baby. that also dosen't mean your dads older
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the 71 dream was great. next to 72 dca it was sky's greatest performance.
71 dca...hollander stadium was also a great show.18,000 fans in the stands & they loved the crusaders.
72 ameican legion nationals in soldiers field in chi-town was special. being on that field with those majestic columns was really something........of course winning was nice.
memorail stadium was a tough plce to march as was mcarther stadium in syracuse
the nigt of69 american legion nationals in georga tech stadium when the yankee rebels won was incredible. the south really rose again that nite. when we took the field no one new we were there.
the old mission drums shows in brighton mass were great early in the year shows......every one was there.
i could go on & on but it would probly bore you all cause most of you were still in diapers but they were very special times for me....old military drum corp
crusaders.......67-72, 75-77, 80
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you people are not old........your babies. my first contest was in 1967. i retired in 1980
crusaders......67-72. 75-77, 80
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you people are all babies. your not old. my first contest was in 1967. i retired in 1980. thats old.
crusaders......67-72, 75-77, 80
General Effect vs. Execution
in DCA All-Age Corps and Alumni Corps Historical Forum
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i don't see the execution anymore. it's a lot different when you have a judge standing right in front of you listening for any mistakes. it made horn & drumlines alot cleaner. they could check spacing and if your feet were the same as everyone else. also colr presentation showed respect to the flag & country. but like everything else today drum corps has gone to the dogs. and don't tell me there's more interest today. an average show in the 60's & 70's had 10,000-15,000 peole watching.