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The Green Light Advantage Minicorps in association with Lonely Faction Productions and Self Similarity Studios proudly presents:
"Drum Corps Standards - The 80s and 90s.... a retrospecticus."
Travel with us in space-time as we visit The English Kingdom in "Crown Imperial," then we'll hop over to Spain and lay down some "Malaguena"
from there.....
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I have lined up an all star cast that will stun and amaze.
This group is exhibition only - our sole purpose is to promote the Drum Corps Activity through impromptu (In The Lot...) performances and inspire our youth to musical levels they never dreamed possible.
This 10 piece group has only 4 spots left.
Experts only please. If I don't know you just post a video of yourself on YouTube showing off your High or Low Brass Skills.
*********NOTE***************. Bb horns r STRICTLY PROHIBITED - 2/3v G Bugles ONLY! All music will arr. for G Bugles in "trumpet" treble clef (That is, when I call for a "C" you will be playing a concert G (open) on the bugle).
PM me or find me on FB: chris.e.welke@gmail.com
Cheers.
-Tapper, Founder and Director.
Watch this thread or my FB for updates. Things are changing daily.
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Not finding a Renegades thread in this sxn other than this one ... so w/o starting a new thread (or ado)
Congrats on your success this year and moving fwd into 2012 ... and beyond.I can think of a certain Alum you'v made proud.
I stomp them.
*cough* good show my friends, good show.
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Congrats to a class act all the way, Cheers Govies!
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As if I needed another reason to march this fine DC that 1st knocked my socks off as a jr. corps member.
Somehow, someday ... I'll get those logistics ironed out. This victory blows the lid off all precedents. And they only fought for ... 40 years? 45?MBI - you keep that hope alive. Thx from SoCal.
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cuz the 1990 closer makes me misty every time.
cuz their Horn Sgt. called my house after VK folded to offer me spot.
cuz Niner-Two blew the roof off DCI in 97 .... cuz they opened with Birdland, cuz the last note was like a 64 count crescendo from forte to ff to fff to ffff fffff etc. and it was so cool DCI HAD to put them in the top6. Those two shows were beyond entertaining ... those kids had alot a heart.
90-chick soloist rocks out in opener, Caravan, Round Midnight and Now or Never (Baritone and Middlehorn duet *sniff*) - def ON MY LIST of all time fav shows.
97-Give 'em Maynard and Don Ellis, why? why not?
What a battle for 12th this year! Any score above 80 normally nets a placemnt above 17th. more like 14th or 13th.
Forget the score, stay the course. Crossmen back in Finals by ...... 2013.
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you may notice this db is severely lacking in midwest, southern, canadian and nor'east data. That's because I only know people on the Left Coast (and the mothership, hovering near the SF Bay). My friend Peter from VK marched Cadets the following year. at VK we had really cool parties with Carolina Crown ... I met their brass caption head who introduced his self as "Donkey Kong." But we mostly kept to ourselves (we had a problem with another corps that led to ... well what problems lead to when male high school hormones are surging and the staff has been picking on the low brass ALL DAY... especially those who are disrespectful @ Retreat) Per forum etiquette they will remain anonymous.
At SCV we did a standstill on the beach with The Cavaliers. They were way cool and good sports when we gave them the noose back at Drums Along the Rockies.
That year Hopkins held a very cool party in the lot after the NiteBeat show. He ordered tons of good food and drink, plus there was a dj and big huge speakers!
The Cadets were just as cool and fun to party with as BD (as the top3 we all shared enormous mutual respect) We also shared facilities w/ a very rude corps I also, of course will not name.
All these people from outside California, I only knew in passing, so if you're going, what about Cavaliers 89? ADD IT! Crown 94? ADD IT! Who was the soloist - what did he or she solo on? What song? Did they nail it at Nats? Who was DM, what did the DM play b4 he took the podium? Who was your tech? Caption Head? Who played the doubleC at the end of the opener? Any tics? (Visual solos? Baritone spread tone or sop stick-out, blown release? ...)
Did you bust a crazy passthrough at 200bpm at 1-step intervals? Ever take a Contra to the back of the head? While backmarching and playing too? I did! Upper-lip popped and I marched "Plug" for a week. The 2nd time I was knock'd out cold. Luckily I was in the habit of pulling the mthpiece OFF my lips as this particular highspeed xthru at one's (Contras flying fwd, Bars flyin bckwd, actually had to 'detriangulate' or 'lower' the elbows to get thru. Check out the drill move ... last phrase of On the Waterfront. The final set was easier - 1 and 1/2's. Phew! Had I been trying play at that moment I wouldve been marching Plug at Finals. :(
When I came to, I never saw a Contra get chewed out so bad. I wasnt mad - it was a dangerous move, im lucky he only hit me that hard 1 time.
********warning: detritus prose
I had a doppleganger in BD named Ted ... equivalent to me in every way, especially when it came to playing too loud and too high on the baritone. We had identical range, volume, tone, bad rep w/ judges in the midwest, everything. Misfits. We hung out after every show. He got teased a lot cuz he got the SCV shield tatted on his arm. He looked like me, just a little taller. (Then again, by summers end, I noticed that almost everyone in BD/SCV/Cadets had this "look" you know? With 1 or 2 outliers, I could swear our hornline was all between 5'7" - 5'9" TAN, slim, muscular build, only tanlines were on our faces where our sunglasses lay. Crewcut. Salty. At ease always steppin or head bobbin to some beat, finger taps on the gym floor at 4am, sticks on a pad, a battery warming up to cheesy poofs - Always a beat to lock into. Deep-set eyes, fingers running the show w/o conscious note of it. 2 or more of us walking together, even from diff corps would automatically fall in step. Man that streamlining and subconscious stuff ... it was straight up NUTS once we put Uni on. Excited that "now we'll really look like one unit." Excited to show the crowd all new drill in the closer, all new chords in the ballad ... 10 new horn manuals. 6 new visuals. Would they feel the darkness and menacing tone we had injected into the 4th production? Of course they will. Tonite we add another standing O to the program. We liked to call the Uniform our Supersuits. The super-strength, air, power and endurance was ready to fire at any moment. The Supersuit meant another opp to show it. Hungry to get under those lights. "Look what I can do now." Early 96? I could hardly make it through the opener. I looked weak and it showed - ez prey for viz staff. 6months later, in Nebraska was the 1st time I put my horn down at the end, barely sweating, not even breathing hard, wanting more ... I want to show them again. Hungry for it. Hoping for a victory - any reason to stay in uniform and maybe play the show 1 more time. and NO PAIN, normally my shoulders/arms/fingers would be on fire, feet ankles, legs ... wasted from toe extension (fwd) and getting all the way up on my platform (bkwd). Lips sore from all the high notes and fff's. Only one thought: When is the next reh/show? Maybe we'll practice tonite back at the school! Hoping for it instead of praying for a break.
The next day, a particularly evil viz guy crept up to me during basics block, "Why are you smiling?" he demanded, and all 110 lbs of me, holding that 10lb baritone at dress-center, said, "Because I don't care anymore how long you leave us at dress-center. It's 103 out here and about 99% humidity and bugs are all over me. I can hold this horn up ALL DAY. So bring it cuz I can handle whatever torture you cooked up at breakfast. BASICS doesn't even raise my pulse. I dare you to catch me miss a ready-front. Watch my feet on the marktime, watch every horn manual, step and change of dir. You catch me out of phase or at box-angle-flat when it's box-angle-box - call it on the microphone. I'll sprint a lap, hit the deck for 20 and be back before the second rep. This rookie's not afraid of the mean viz techs anymore. I'm done with that."
"Is that so?" "Corps ... READY.. FRONT" Most of our techs were SCV alums, so they expected the same strength, uniformity and speed of our horn manuals. Head fwd on 1, horn down on 2 .... just like Vanguard. On 1 my head snapped to flat-front. On 2 the Kanstul came down at light speed - my wrists and the tips of my right fingertips exploding into motion and maybe 3 to 5 hundredths of a second later, stopping the eplosion and coming to rest in control, at the right angle, all fingers and thumbs where they belonged and my eyes looking over the flat surface of the 6 1/2 AL mouthpiece. @precisely eye-level, the bell parallel to the deck. My smile long gone, it was him who I caught grinning as he turned away to harass someone else. That was a proud day. The first time I hoisted a barry, my back hurt so bad I thought (Great, I failed at soccer,, basketball, baseball ... now this? something I want?) I just needed to learn to stand up straight, not sink into my hips or lean back ... and build muscle tissue in my upper-body so whether at a carry, or fff at the box, or at dress center for 20minutes just to punish the low brass, the weight + pressure + strain on my spine = 0. Sleeping on that hardwood gym was darn good for it, too.
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You out there SCV/BD-Ted? They used to call me "Cud."
I know the DM for VK 95 became DM for PR 96. I do not rem her name.
We had a drill designer @VK who was from Garfield. Is that story true about the girl getting stung by a bee on her lip right b4 Nats and she laid out her solo?
He was our Viz Caption Head, Carl. Coffee & a cigarette come rain, shine, 100%humidy 105 degree heat, up in Wyoming w/ no air to breathe? Carl's 2 habits were as certain as 12hour rehearsal on show-less day in July.
Anyone know Carl's last name? Is that bee sting deal just legend? or fact? Sounded like "BS to scare the rookie lead baritone" to me.
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Ok now that the 2011 DCI World Championships "Thread-Mania" has died down a bit and b4 the DCA furor revs up to capacity....Can anyone answer my questions (soloist names, biographical data, knick-names ....)??
***for convenience - rantingspeculationand other mental detritus in red if you want to skip.
***due to HTML issues - just look to the q's in bold to get around my excess prose. thx.
Like 95 VK - and staff 96 who was Bill?
Where did he march before VK? I knew he was an SCV alum immediately (you could tell by the way he stood at a carry, the lightning fast yet sober control of his horn-salute and the negative-space in the right hand when he was in playing position - and he hadn't played a note yet) The first time I met him he picked up a Mellophone, played quick little CBBbA ... down the valves and back up, a few pedals. Then a sixteenth-note chromatic from low-C to doubleC. This was the guy I had seen on video playing a baritone solo @ DCI not 3 months prior? As low as we were on horns early season, I saw Bill jump into the soprano line, middle-horn, baritone/euph AND Contra ... it seemed to me he had equal talent horn w/ a tpt. tbn or tuba mouthpiece. <br>(No wonder he was so stoked when I played a C major scale in all 5 octaves) - on a Barry, on high brass I can hit a highC ok. Back then I was only good for about 1 octave on an alto/middlehorn.<I have known other Sopranos that were capable Barry players, but most of those guys would hoist a Contra only manage something resembling a sour digestive tract, the rest couldn't even buzz at all. (starting to go OT but) I always wondered how he could change horns so seamlessly. Any other known soloists who have virtuoso skill on sop/alto/tenor/baritone AND bass bugles? (Just sop/mello and barry doesnt count, but whether or not they could play the FH? There were no FH's when I marched (for good reason IMO, no offense if you are one, dont take it as a knock, Its just for hornlines I prefer *ahem* 14 sops, 10 mellos, 4 altos, 10 bar., 10 euphs and 14+ Contras. 1st sop (upper/lower lead split); 2nd sop; 3rd sop. Upper Lead Mello (some chords require the mello voice at the top, so the top 4 mellos are screamers) Lower Lead Mello; 2nd Mello; 3rdMello and/or Alto bugle; Barrys split same as the Sops, so UL frequently goes up to alto range (and may support the lead soprano melody 8vb), Lower and 2nd fill out the tenor voice; 3rd bar and Euph cover deep, dark, rich baritone voices I love to hear Euphs on the lower register, @ fff, w/ no spread, just TONE.... the army of Contras, sometimes in 2 part harmony or split octaves creating the stainless steel and I-bars of an impenetrable bass foundation, and rhythm you could set your watch to. +many soli/section features, sop solos/duets/trios/quartets, mello solos, barry solos and small ensemble features ... but I digress....</font><br><br>
There are several sops and barrys and such up front @ the end of 94 BD - I know Rollie and Carey, who were the rest?
Who was the "Arturo" dude Madison had in 96?
Who soloed alongside Scott Stewart and Sean Billings in the 95-97 BD yrs?
SCV: when did Rick South solo? Wasn't he also DM? Or Horn Sgt.? Both?
SCV96: soloists in La Mer? also looking for more info regarding 87 to 92 (soloists, caption heads, Horn Sgts., DMs) <I only know Jed>, Tim Meehan, Eric Hand, Rick Valenzuela, Rick South and Murray and Eppy. Betting that <Myron wrote the drill(s) and that Ralph Hardimon either wrote the drum book(s), served as snare tech, Battery Caption Head or maybe all of the above. This wouldve been when Murray Gussack marched - year(s)?I was told thatJim Cassella marched 2nd or 3rd Bass Drum at BD in either 1992 or 1993 - talk about humble beginnings! Not to minimize the accomplishment .... just being a member of BD's Battery puts you in the running for best percussion performer Nationwide. In that vein -
can we match Tom Float with corps and years? If I had to guess right now I would say he marched Kingsmen 74, then BD 75-76, aged out, started teching snares @ BD until ~1982 then he moves to SoCal and VK's drumline becomes the hippest battery ever, attracting the best and brightest as Caption Head until at some point (1994?) he comes back up to Concord for about 2 yrs. as a tech/consult (by 94 I'm guessing Scott Johnson has taken over as Caption head). Float, now sponsored by every drum company you could name, returns to SoCal again (95? 96?) and starts the Trashcan Trio at Disneyland, and continues to consult for VK, BD and possibly SCV (????)so ...
Who were the other two members of the Trashcan Trio? I remember the guy on the left said he was center-snare @ Madison, late 80s. I think the other guy was one of Float's standout-students from either VK or BD. Methinks it was BD. No names tho - just Float as "center-trashcan"
. Why did Disney dissolve this very popular group? Why was the Magic Kingdom Korps dissolved?
FutureCorps, for that matter?
Disney's California Adventure had a full-time production of Blast! (This was around 99, 2000???) Why was that also scrapped?
When was the last time Finals were at "Disney-World"? (Really Citrus College w/ a parade & I&E @ the park)
I'm sensing a pattern - maybe a falling out between DCI and Mickey?
Lot of changes after Bb came to Drum Corps...any speculation from you Hoppy-conspiracy theorists? Before there were 911 Truthers and Obama Birthers ....there were the Hoppy Conspiracy Theorists. Clarinets and alto saxes hiding in the bushes, next to drill teams, majorettes, flutes and sousaphones just waiting for the order to strike!!!! I still have nightmares of trombones and concert french horns in F!!! The director transposes "now thats a C for y'all, D for the horns, E for the alto-sax, Bb for the trombones, tuba, flute and keyboard. C for the trumpets and tenor saxes and clarinets..." NO!!!!!!! (Just a dream, Juuuuuust a dream)....
I do have some more soloist:
1981 BD - Soprano soloist Larry Dastrup (multiple solos)
1981 BD - Baritone soloist Doug Kenyon (multiple solos)... better known to his fans (and friends alike) as Pooh Bear. He is also WELL known for famous DCA I&E solos, having become the perennial winner of this caption until an unknown woman from Japan and David Landers showed up; a consummate professional who's mashup of "Flight of the Bumblebee" and "Play that Funky Music,"(and his revisions of it) have become famous and have won him the title on more than one occasion.
1996 VK - I rememberred the name of the screamer that joined up late (and was a BD and Freelancer Alum)
Marty - (sorry no last name ...maybe JoBasset?) but he carried the handle Marty "The One-Man Party" I got the sense the nickname pre-dated 1996. My guess was he picked it up in Sacramento - oh and he marched 1993 Freelancers - Bill Chase, one of my fav shows ever. - I am almost sure he had solos in that show. He was probably the best sop player that I marched alongside ... in jr. corps.
Best sop of all time? Tie - Sean Billings, Roland Garceau.
Sweetest sound on any bugle? Frank Dorittie; another perennial title holder for soprano solo at DCA I&E. He would pull out some rusty, tattered old thing, with maybe a valve, maybe just a slide. And then he'd make it sing like it was a Monet Trumpet and he was on stage at the Concord Pavilion, instead of a musty, crowded back-office on a tin-can designed to get members of the 1st Marines to fall in on their racks, not to weave swingin cradenzas and velvety vibratos. (Some of those old ones really are designed as 'noise-makers' not 'musical instruments') But could u say Star 93 didnt make Music with those 2v Kings that were on their 7th DCI circuit?. A matching set, manufactured in 1987, by 93 the majority of the bugles had logged 20,000miles, 200 shows, 1,000 maybe 2,000 on-field practice hours. Some with 2 or three owners, but many on their 6th or 7th. Amazing what a little polish - some TLC and a LOT of air - can do.
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Frank, you share so much wonder and magic with all of us. Did you solo in Junior Corps? In those legendary NY and Jersey Corps and Church basements you wax so eloquently about? If so, when? what?
Anthony, Signorelli, Nash, Nalls? Frank? Kelly? Gilman? Potter Brothers? Monihan? DeeDee? Peter? Alisha? .... Landers? Pooh? Minervini? Larry? Wanna help me build this here database? Please add CG solos as well. Please confine to DIV I 1980 to 1997 for now. thx. and just jr's since this is the jr forum.
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Bro's entitled to his opinion - nice work putting all that together. Those of us who havent seen or heard much this yr appreciate, well, I do. (As I listen to 77 Bridgemen and hit repeat a 2nd time satisfy MY 'Jonz.')
Makes me really wish I had seen the 2011 Scouts. When I marched, they were a perennial top6 corps.
If I remember right there was 3-way tie for High Brass in 1995 - BD/Mad/Cavs.
A friend in attendance@Finals in 1995 said the crowd stood up after the soprano-torreador-bugle-call (top of the show) and did not sit down until long after Madison had trooped the line. As a member of VK and BD, he's seen plenty ... and he said that was the most astonishing show he had EVER seen live. It's usually the show I play when I want to explain DC to a muggle.... especially the part about how "it's like marching band ... but it's NOT marching band." 95 Madison explains it much better than I can. For the Broadway fan - Miss Saigon, Fiddler or Phantom (SCV - pick your yr!) and for the classical ear: Bartok (93 Star), Shostakovich (96 PR) or The Planets (95 Cavs)
Jazz? (80,81,92,93,94,96 BD) 2004 Cavs (James Bond) 90Scouts, 91,92,93Scouts too. 'course what the muggle can never understand, unless u take 'em to a late season, top6-caliber show is that all this musical magic happens while the members move at high velocity together, twisting and turning into post-modern or geometrically exacting, rotating forms; pounding the field yet somehow light as a feather- protecting the sound as they execute. Oh I should give out some viz kudos: 96 PR, 1969 Troopers, 2004, 2002 and 2007* Cavs., 1997 Cadets (see end of the opener). 93 Star. I'm leaving out a lot but this post is long enough.
When Madison started ending their season on Friday night it made me REALLY SAD. :sad:With VK and Bridgemen gone, what [jr.] corps would truly say that their show design was 100 percent tailored to ENTERTAIN, with no regard to the score, other than that a very high score accompanies, or is a side effect of a darn good show? Who? Just one remained - A nod to SCV here on valuing a good show over a good score, having marched I know that coming in last but having a show that was ALL HEART and connected emotionally with the fans was preferrable to having the #1 score in the world - after putting on a flat show, we learned that the hard way. "Mailing it in" - go march/play with perfection, but leave the passion, the heart and soul on the bus, win the show ... and see what certain staff members, one in particular will have to say, to you back at the Elks lodge (see Spike's book and YouTube commentary, I was there the night we all decided that our Viz caption head was a sort of Demi-God who could control the weather to accent his wrath).
I have seen too many corps slip to 10th, then 12th, then they miss Finals, then 17th, then 25th and on into oblivion ....
Just knowing the Scouts are under the Saturday Night Lights made my heart swell. Along with SCV back in the top6 and Crown's continued ascension. Congrats to all, including the 2011 champ: The Cadets.
I have loved Crown since I first met them after a show in North Carolina; what a great group of people. When I knew 'em they were easy-going, fun, put on a rad show and were no less committed to excellence to than any other corps. That year it was us (VK), them (Crown) Kiwanis Kavaliers, Southwind, Pioneer, The Glassmen, Les Etoiles, Boston Cru and BK duking it out for that coveted 12th spot. BK got it. Crown finished 10th - a solid finish, even back then.
My Fantasy top3:
SCV
Madison
Crown
you decide the order....Finals 2015? (amps ok, but no singing or talking, just in-your-face openers, mellow, lovely ballads, psychotically odd-metered drum solos, tight pass-throughs at 180bpm, company-fronts, screaming sopranos w/ ridiculous small ensembles, section solis and at least one closer that leaves 20,000 fans in tears.
*Whoever at Cavies came up w/ having the hornline do the two-person trust exercise .... IN A RIPPLE. I think that was the most visually outstanding thing I have ever seen. Finals @ UCLA. 2007.
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I'm racking my brain ... have I ever played in a dome? I no-a think-so.
Does the dome cause a confusing echo? I remember some stadiums where you're playing and because of the bleacher design, there's a small radio playing your show (but about 1 second behind) in your ear. The staff would usually warn us. Clay bleachers and crater-like stadiums OR stadiums that have a 10 foot high wall separating track and bleachers, are frequent culprits
That's sound bouncing off the front bleachers - ricocheting to the "away-side" bleachers and THEN to your ears. A frequent culprit of front to back phasing if, say, the low brass is back-field and thinks this false "radio-beat" is the real beat and starts following it. At 120bpm (basic march tempo) that's a half-note tear! At Z-Pull, Spin-Cycle, Avalance, Jazz-running speeds, that could be a whole measure.
I have seen this effect throw off even the most elite corps, especially early season.
Does the dome cause a similar ricochet effect? Particularly the one in Indy?
I do recall plenty of indoor standstill shows .... The Loudest Show on Earth for ex ... I do not remember it being an issue, but then again that's standstill.
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Seeing the look on the kids faces after Crown performs is just inspiring. They are having the time of their lives and are performing the heck out of that show. What a great feeling for them. Great show Crown!
whasssup? much love to my bar. brutha!!
Crown rocks and everyone knows it.
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Michael Boo:
Mesmerizing...the horns on the ground introducing "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini" coming straight out of "Bohemian Rhapsody." Michael Klesch is a certifiable genius.
I think he is a musical genius for sure!
Paganini or Freddy Mercury?
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Scores for Semi's
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6. Santa Clara Vanguard--92.20
7. Bluecoats ..........--91.60
8. Boston Crusaders --90.35
9. Blue Knights ......--89.40
10. Madison Scouts --88.35
11. Bluestars ........ --87.00
12. Spirit of Atlanta --86.55
13. Glassmen ......--83.40
14. Troopers .......--83.20
15. The Academy --82.65
16. Colts ........... --82.25
17. Crossmen ...--81.05
18. Pacific Crest --77.75
19. Blue Devils B --76.45
20. Teal Sound ..--75.75
21. Mandarins ... --75.70
22. Oregon Cru --75.15
23. SCV Cadets --72.85
24. Cascades ... --72.20
25. Jersey Surf .. --71.50
Congrats to Cadet Corps. 23rd in the World.
SCVA - the Star that you wear on your tunic, the tilt of your Aussie, the shine on your Dinkles ... all symbols of the most consistent Drum Corps to EVER take the Field of Honor. (Not just score/placement wise). Our tradition guides us in everything we do.
Who else has a Cymbal Line that could take over a small country? Who else tries to make their toes touch their kneecaps on the fwd march? Who else is hard as slate on the outside but smooth 'n cool as Jello on the inside? Who else has Euphs and Barrys that hornsnap so fast you only see 2 frames: carry and horns-up? Who else does hornline parade-rest ripples that take <1 second? Or company fronts that bow <1inch? Who looks larger than life under the lights? Who can be heard 7 miles away on humid Nebraska morn? What exp. causes Marine Corps Officers and Enlisted men to say Boot Camp or OCS was "a joke?" Ill give u a hint, tomorrows your last day, Santa Clara.***
It is the staff that wrote your show, then rewrote it, etc ... the staff that set your itinerary based how last night's show went. The staff that pushed you to limits you never thought possible. One of them probably changed your life. Despite their excellence, in the tradition of Gale, Myron, Rick South, Dean Westman, Ralph Hardimon, Glen Crosby, Jim Casella and all the field trench-techs; Chris Williams, Bagel, Murray, Eppy, Belski, Eric Hand, et al.... The VICTORY will be yours and yours alone.
Remember: everything you do tomorrow, 8s &8s, timing, ..... cheesy poofs, the double beat, basics, triples, quads, chunks, the run-thru, even a ready-front ... could be your last ever. Think about that and cherish every second from revelie to taps.
So shine up, suit up, remember your training, keep your ears n eyes open ... then throw a gallon of emotion-gasoline on the field and light a match.
Then, "Take it home ...."
No dry eyez guyz. None.
When you play Clowns for the last time, you will cry, not quite sure how it works mechanically, but my body has been able to SOB and belt out double-G's.
***Paragraph NOT a knock on any other musical organization. I wanted to point out some strong suits that SCV is traditionally known for.
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What year don't they?
1996. A Defiant Heart.
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Tapper -- you might be better off reading Boo's live blog -- everyone here seems to be watch the FN so not a lot of "updates" like a normal show thread.
Rad. thx. Boo and Reed seem to like SCVs pgm. Then again, we were the "Reliable Rondo Pick" Finals night in 97. The rvws dont give u much of read on the score ... not that I care about the score ... so long as the audience bought it and there were multiple standing o's.
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and they stay in the top6
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Presence? YES - goodnews
Great opening? YES - a given
Weak Trumpets? YES - weak sops? *sigh*
Tight Drums? YES - given
Ballad doesn't match theme? YES - if true thats an arr. issue
Blah ending? YES - another arr. issue but maybe the kids just didnt sell it, yet that could be a staff issue - maybe they dont know how to sell it.
Yes I love SCV. Yes, this was not one of their greatest conceived or executed shows of all time.
Now where did I put those "chill pills"???
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Is it just me or does the SCV horn line have a little more presence tonight?
Could you and byline clarify a bit more? I'm not on the webcast and I didnt get a chance to see SCV live this year.
btw- the hornline should have more presence; @minimum, the goal is to peak @ Finals. I'd be happier to hear the whole corps kicked it up a notch, but ill take goodnews wherever it may be.
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One of the tech talkers is running the FN stream. Relax man :)
10/4. As an Alumni I do have some room to get my whine on, w/in the boundaries of good taste.
thx for the update.
As for "Relax" ... not till I see scores for SCV, PR, Cavs, BD and Gah-field. So is Blooooo on or INT or ?
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wow did i shoot my mouth off - supersop posted the most updated action as I posted 'OT'
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Can the tech-talk! OT. What's happening in Indiana?
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The following 'eras' refer to DIV I only as these eras lasted a bit longer in divII/III as 'b' corps, 'cadet' corps relied on hand-me-downs to cut costs.
The Pre-DCI era ( <1971)
The Piston-rotor, marching xylophone era (1971 - 1980,81,82,83?? some help???) This era also saw death of 90 to 100 percent of the show being high-mark-time. yeeGOD.
The two-valvie era (Early 80s to 1996, when DIV I saw their last alto horns, 2-valve Euphs, Bars., Sops and Mellos. This era also saw the development a asymmetrical drill. Now you could play a whole scale if you were above the register .... but Ab req. the false partial. Zig's "tune any-note kicker solved that.
Thee 3-valve era (still in G) 1997 to ~2000)) Ab-s!!! in tune!!!
The Bb + amps era (2001 - present) I agree it tiz more "musical"; has that church organ feel to it. But nothing will ever strip aluminum siding off of bleachers like a the military G bugle does. In 97 we ere practicing 7 miles apart from the Cadets ... after speaking to them after the show, we realized we could hear each other. Humid Nebraska air no doubt helped, but ... 7 miles. It was like a little radio was hitting ensemble chunks of their show inside a tiny radio inside my ear, they exp. the same effect.
Re: 1993. Not the end of an era. The beginning of one. 1993 Star was 30 yrs ahead of it's time. I mean that. So many aspects of their viz, brass arr., perc. arr., and marching technique (ie dancing and toe-1st in the hornline) have been "borrowed" or "improved upon" since that famous (and my #1 fav alltime) show that it is already w/o number.
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Top6 predictions:
In 6th place, with a score 91.2 ... 91.2 The Santa Clara Vanguard!*
In 5th place, with a score of 91.7 ... 91.7 The Phantom Regiment!
In 4th place [this one is a LOCK IMO], w/ a score of 94.0 ... 94.0 Carolina Crown!*
In 3rd place, with a score of 95.5 ... 95.5 - The Cavaliers!
In 2nd place, with a final score of 96.1 - 9-6 point 1 - The Holy Name Cadets! (Is that what we call them now, not sure ...)
That means the 2011 DCI World Champions, with a score of 96.2 - 9-6 pt. 2 - The Blue Devils!
*Looks like its time for SCV to squeeze back into the Top6 ... paving the way for 5th, 3rd ..... you know how it goes! ;)
** Pt-wise there is a fairly wide space above and below 4th, so I don't see Crown moving out of 4th. This also should give them the street-cred to get a medal next year and after that, maybe even a ring. That would be a Cinderella story if I ever heard one.... "DCI 2015 Gold Medal goes to ... Carolina Crown." Ida never believed ya when I was in HS. Now it's a reality. With the right show and minimum ageout/turnover ... it could be 2014, h#@% it could be 2013.
I am so proud of this DC. In 1996 it was us battling it out with Crown, Pioneer, Les Etoiles, Kiwanis Kavaliers and Academie Musicale for the coveted 12th spot ... and now look at them! Topping PR and SCV. Kudos Crown.
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This belongs in the Jr. Historical forum but im seeking info about jr corps post 89. Aaanyway.
I'm curious about the denizens of the 50 yd line ... putting it all on the line in a way no other musical activity does.
YOU ONLY GET ONE TAKE as they used to tell me. In 96 I played the lead part in a 4 pt. small ensemble (the swing section in the Jetsons) i had the honor of getting to play a doubleG ON MY KNEES / LEANING BACK. The 2nd bar part was played by an excellent player whose name I do not recall, only that he hailed from SD - Grosemont HS. 2 alto horns rounded out the texture .... Arvin and ... I remember 20 things about him but not the name.
Also - Antii Karvonen (classmate) had a sop solo in Jetsons, we also had a screamer (name??) who had done Freelancers in 93, BD 94-95 (i think) and joined late season, not wanting to miss his age out but not wanting the stress of ring-chasing.
Ill start w/ what I DO know and then request what I wish I knew - If I am not sure of any facts I will mark it so.
95 VK - Bar soloist - known to me only as Bill (last name?) He could play ANY bugle with astonishing range, tone and volume. Rumor had it he had started on Mello @BD, moved to lead soprano @ SCV, took a break and then aged out @ VK. In 96 he was the ###'t to the caption head - Greg Flores, a professional bass tbn player.
95 BD - Scott Stewart - had a very famous solo - every sop knows the lick "ba da dit dit dat do da eee dit dooo do de dooowwww" [repeat phase, but last 3 notes are 8va - doubleA, doubleB, doubleC!!!] then he trills on a doubleG .... one more articulated G, then another dubC. Scott was hired by Magic Kingdom Korps to play Mello following his age-out. All we did was follow them + Trashcan Trio around when we had free days @ Disneyland. MKK has an arr. of Big Noise From Winnetka - they decided to give a VERY LONG (3 -5min) improvised cradenza to Stewart. OMG I got to hear it 3x that night and I never ever heard so much range, tone, volume and talent come out of Kanstul Mellophone in G.
So who else solos in 95 BD?
89 BD opener - John Meehan doin his family proud. Thats all I have to say about 89 BD. anyone want to post other names?
89 SCV - one of my teachers, (Jeb or Jed?) was one of our bar. consultants. Last time I checked he was 1st chair tbn. w/ Houston Symphony. Don't know who the other bar. is/are or the sops.
90 VK - who are the two sop soloists in the ballad?
92 VK - my friend and teacher - Brian Belski on Contra!
90 Scouts - who makes up the sop "scream team" that year?
92 SCVA - Tim Meehan has a nice (fairly certain) octave jump from a high B to double B in 2nd production. Anyone want to fill in other soloists names for this group? The Mello solo when the crowd starts clapping along w/ the accelerando?
94 BD - a litany - my good friend Roland Garceau is up front @ the end. Carey (sp?) gettin down .... who are the rest, who is the big bar. dude that has a grip of solos?
93 Scouts - who makes up the sop "scream team" that year?
95 Scouts- again - who makes up the sop "scream team" that year? Those guys were ridonkulous
96 Scouts - who is that dude they recruited from (The Netherlands?) So they could open with Arturo's "A mis Abuelos" That guy was sssssmmmmmokinnn!!
96 BD - was Billings soloing by then? Who else? I should know this.
97 BD - all about Sean Billings, especially in closer ...."do dut dut dweh dit do ............... *******doubleC-in tune @ffff******** Also my friend from HS, shining brightly in a small ens. jazz improv ditty. Brain Kettlehut. word.
97 SCV - mainly it was all about our Horn Sgt; Eric "Dark" Hand, small ens in intro is Hand, (I am sorry Ms., your name has slipped!) and Chosen*
Mello solo during triangle rotations in On the WaterFront is Matt Carrol** Hand again in Ballad, Carrol again on the three-note E-DF#.....backfield. Erchin (sp?) has 1-bar snare solo in 7/8 time "playful" 3rd production. The sop line and front end are also featured (I still have no clue what the time-changes were during that pit feature ... words cannot describe Jim Cassella's writing)
Hand one more time in closer.
*Chosen went on to be DM
**Carrol "real instrument" is tbn, which he credited with teaching him to put enough air through to get that elegant sound he ALWAYS had (I never heard him frack)
Feel free to add years, Corps and drum solos. Horn Sgts .... center snares ....
Thx.
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It's painfully obvious how cheesy Crown is this year. I don't get all the rationalizations. Do drum corps fans actually sit down, listen to a corps playing "Bohemian Rhapsody" and think, "Yeah, this is good!" If so, how much ketchup do you put on your hot dogs, a gallon? And do you wear a beanie?
I soleley wanted to add a compliment, but as this mean-spirited post came up on my screen, I will reply and THEN post what I had initially wanted to say:
@alBAC -- The reason DC fans sit down with a hot dog and munch on it whilst a TOP SIX DC plays this great composiion is that it is a DC CLASSIC.
To save space, this chart has been made famous on the field of honor by:
78 Sundowners
79 Madison
04 Crown
02 Renegades
Ill stop there
If this is a knock on the kids' ability or discipline or espirit de corps, you are out of line
/rant
My heart swells everytime a new corps grows out of the mire of 16th, 13th, 11th, 20th ... and suddenly becomes a contender for not just the top three - but a ring.
With VK, we were back and forth with Crown competitively, but as Units, we always had great fun after shows. The Brass Caption Head was this way cool guy I knew only as Donkey Kong. Despite 3000 miles, I considered marching there in 97 because I wanted to play lead in Donkey Kong's line.
MAD RESPECT AND a tip of the Aussie to YOU Crown.
the diff. between a 93 and above is EMOTION. Standing O's, SHOCKING the judges/fans, and bringing the house down. @93.whatever. you are likely close technical perfection. "GE" frequently separate the top3 and 456.
Best of luck from a left-coaster. ps - brass - AIR.
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Chris,
I sent you a PM on here as soon as the word got out cause I didn't know how else to get a hold of you. Every number and email address I had for you were no longer active.
You and Rich were both my really good friends. We didn't judge one another and we didn't care what other people thought.
Please keep in touch, I'll PM you my number and email.
Alisha I know you did. When I finally got around checking DCP, I did check my InBox. a message titled: "Re: Skare" from SomeGuardChk ... that we either YOU or Kanika. I still havent read it. If ONE PERSON reached out to me. I am glad it was you. At work ... my boss is gone so I'm functioning @ 1/10th capacity right now. F-them.
We get so backwards in our lives; we put put work first then friends, then family ... its all backwards ... we need to start putting FAMILY first ... then everything else. Cuz thats who will be there when your friends leave and your job downsizes.
Family. That's what we are. You know how I know? I could walk up to SomeGuardChick and say "Casey's a f---ing show-dog," and she would laugh hysterically///you're laughing now arent you sweety? I miss you. You are maybe the only one who knows our inside jokes ... THE REAL ONES.
So much has changed ... we gotta talk. Ill PM soon and send you my cell#. Hugs N' Kisses.
Thanks to the honorable Gilman who shed some light on the tragedy for me - pulling me out of the dark.
All - I am sorry I am not so sure about marching. I wish I could say "it's about the corps this is what Rich would want ...etc." all I want to do is honor his memory. And whether that is to March 2011. Play a solo in his honor @ I&E. Direct a mixed ensemble in his name @minicorps, all three, just one of them, or nothing ... I have to do some soul searching to figure out what is in the best interest of my my departed brother. For once it's not about "The Corps" or The Activity.
Alicia we'll chat soon. :)
There is so much catching up yo do, thanks for PMing me on the day he died. I apologize that you didnt have up-to-date emails and ph#. Ill explain soon.
It begins....
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