FlamMan
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2 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Like I said earlier the issue isn’t how many cases/deaths we have now, it’s how bad things might get if we don’t take precautions. But I guess Italian doctors having to decide which patients get hospital assets is all a conspiracy. Along with medical experts here worrying that ERs and hospitals could be overwhelmed is a conspiracy too. But somehow it’s all the media....
My Wife and Daughter are both in the medical industry, with one of the largest hospital operators in the Chicago area. Without divulging too much I can tell you that there is a widespread opinion in the industry that this whole ting has been blown waaaaay out of proportion, as most infected only suffer minor symptoms and aren't life threatening.
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4 minutes ago, Sutasaurus said:
Conspiracy theories. Wake up.
Conspiracy theories are based on speculation. The idea that the MSM has an agenda and will stop at nothing to further that agenda and achieve their goal is a widely accepted fact. Heck, they don't even try to hide or dispute it. It is right their on display in plain sight every day and night.
H1N1 Swine flu, 10 years ago, 12,000 deaths, 300,000 hospitalized, 60 million infected. Nothing cancelled, no one cared, Obama was praised for the way this was handled.
COVID 19, 41 deaths, 1500 infected with minimal hospitalizations, 125K infected. All sporting and entertainment events cancelled, schools closed. Widespread hysteria, panic and paranoia. Stores shelves are empty,
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Just now, Sutasaurus said:
Yes I have. Thank you. We’re better than this.
We? Better than what?
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2 minutes ago, Sutasaurus said:
You need to stop...
You don't believe this over the top craziness is politically motivated? Have you not been paying attention for the last 3 years?
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9 hours ago, skevinp said:
Maybe you’re right.
I’m not sure you’re right.
You’re probably right.
You may be wrong.
You really could be wrong.
But you’re probably right.
Oh no you’re wrong.
Oh *whew* you could still be right.
Oh my god you are completely wrong!!!
Oh hey it looks like you could have been right all along.
Hmm...
Perhaps I shouldn’t base my opinions solely on the Dow Jones.
He's right. Start buying stocks now.
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9 hours ago, Poppycock said:
The mainstream media's coverage of this has been irresponsible, IMO Bordering on panic creation, and paranoia creation. In the end, who knows. more people might die of stress or a stroke watching the TV and the like than from the Chinese Coronovirus spread.
World Health Organization website their scientists, epidemiologists are stating that 86.4 % of those that come down with the virus will suffer " mild, non life threatening symptoms". Even the vast majority of those over 80 with compromised immune systems due to underlying health conditions are expected to survive a bout with this, and millions of these people every night die in their sleep peacably anyway, no child under 10 anywhere in the world has died from this. 99 out of every 100 people that come down with this virus that are under 65 will survive it, and far less than half the adult population is expected to get it. China has 1.35 billion people.. As of today, 3,177 have died of Coronovirus in China since this outbreak began there in mid December. Out of 80,000 confirmed cases (its estimated many more went undiagnosed, and recovered on their own).
I suspect that many will catch this virus, but that it will eventually run its course, and while deaths will result, it will not be the cataclysmic virus that its being made out to be by the media.
100 exactly correct. The MSM certainly wont discuss the above points because it hurts their narrative and desired outcome.
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9 hours ago, Fred Windish said:
Just want to point out ‘steps’ were taken as early as January 27 !
Yup, and many criticized it.
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10 hours ago, Poppycock said:
IMO this will end up being the weakest, with the fewest deaths of all pandemics in history. All these cancellations are to instill fear and are unnecessary.
Exactly right. It is all politically motivated which is very sad.
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10 hours ago, skevinp said:
Respectfully but strongly disagree. Were schools closed all over? Were millions of people told to stay home from work? Were sports seasons ended? Were theme parks closed? Were there nearly daily press conferences by teams of experts? Was there non-stop media coverage of practically nothing else? Did the stock market have to take Vraylar? Did NE Brigand wear out two keyboards and give himself carpal tunnel syndrome?
Exactly. Anyone want to take a stab at the reason why?
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10 hours ago, inbetween said:
Well he was essential wrong. Obviously.
This is not disputable. Facts are the facts. Covid 19 is being overblown and fueled by the main stream media. Its absolute insanity.
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10 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said:
1. It's not true that nothing was done. Swine flu was declared a public health emergency by the federal government on Apr. 26, 2009, which was 14 days after the first case was discovered, when there were only 20 known cases (but probably a lot more undetected) and before anyone had died from it. Two days after that, Congress was presented with the initial budget request to fund an emergency response, and the bill that was passed was $7.65 billion, a little less than the COVID-19 funding bill that was passed by the current Congress and signed into law by the President one week ago today. (COVID-19 was first identified in December and the first U.S. case was in January.)
2. Way more than 1,500 Americans are currently infected with COVID-19.
H1N1 was much more widespread and deadly, yet not one sporting or entertainment event or season was cancelled. Nothing. No crazy widespread panic like we have now.
Why do you think that is???
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11 hours ago, rpbobcat said:
Actually,the number of US deaths was over 12,000
Yes, thanks for the correction.
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Serious question here. 10 years ago the H1N1 swine flu killed 12'000 Americans, hospitalized 300,000, and infected 60 million. Essentially nothing was done during that situation and not a single event was canceled or shutdown.
Corona virus has killed about 40 Americans, and infected about 1500 with a minimal number hospitalized yet we have a hysteric emergency with everything being canceled.
Why the huge difference?
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13 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:
If it bleeds it leads (and leads to ratings). So that’s what we get over and over and ....
Question I have is are the 24 “news” channels being hysterical or just seems that way because this is all they talk about constantly.
The main stream media has an agenda folks. They wont stop. This should be obvious to everyone.
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22 minutes ago, dans said:
Tip of the day: stop watching the news. The hysteria from the mainstream media is exhaustive and not helping anyone.
I spoke with a very reputable doctor in the Philadelphia area yesterday about the coronavirus. His views were refreshing and made me way more relaxed. He basically said unless you're a senior citizen (70+) with serious health issues, relax and enjoy your life. We will all be fine! The end of the world is not approaching.
Yup.
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1 hour ago, MikeN said:
Then maybe your town should invest in community WiFi?
Mike
Why? Who doesn't have wifi?
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9 minutes ago, Continental said:
Why build rockets that can go to Mars when we can all just take massive doses of LSD and go to Mars while laying down?
We were warned for many years that an event like this could happen.
What we weren't warned about was the commentary.
Thanks for the snarkiness, but technology has obsoleted many things and to me Libraries are one of those things. I would expect to see a bit more justification before spending millions on new Libraries.
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1 hour ago, Rich Cline said:
You have to see our homeless problem in the SF bay area.
First of all, we don't have "Toll Roads" per say, they are just 10 lane continuous "Freeways" with exits every 1/4 mile to the city streets. At every Freeway exit, there are Tent cities of homeless camped out at the exits. Not only a huge eyesore but not safe for anyone. There are those that are mentally ill but I suspect most are drug related. At every exit on or off, they are there on the median asking for money. As fast as the cities clean up and remove these people, they are back with a new tent city in a matter weeks. We won't talk about brand new tents that they just walk into a sporting goods store and take. Our current laws allow any theft as long as it's under $950.
Dont get me started on California and Newsome. Here in Illinois we have 30 murders every weekend and no one gives a crap. Both states are in the hands of awful leaders.
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2 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Locally had two school buildings 75+ years old but not in use as schools. One had a few rooms contracted out but rest of building in bad shape. Finally someone woke up that the local library had no room and no place to build a new one. So tore down that building for new big library.
district tried years to sell the other building without success. Finally they said new owner could tear down the building and use the land to build someone within zone. Few months later land was sold (took few months to finalize zoning).
note: local school district has no open land for building so freeing up the land was the biggie
Speaking of Libraries, why are some communities investing in building a new Library? Who goes to the Library anymore? My kids did all of their studying online. Seems like a big waste of money to me.
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18 minutes ago, Rich Cline said:
Business’s have already been moving towards employees "Teleworking" from home as their business models allow simply because we are becoming more global and more populated.
I equate this to how "Drum Corps" has evolved. I think everyone will find they can function just as well without being "on site in a campus building" which reduces the need for so much campus real estate. I expect we will see much more of this touching all parts of our lives.
Exactly. The implications and effect on many many industries would be disastrous. You could see the commercial real estate collapse and what would governments do with all their empty school buildings?
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26 minutes ago, TwoValves said:
I would be more concerned that the economy will be in such poor condition that little would be able to return to the "way they were"
Yes. Many things could be fundamentally changed forever because of this.
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The fear that a lot of industries and organizations have is that after this virus situation is gone, will things all return to the way they were? For example, I know a teacher who is concerned and worried that if students go to virtual learning while everything is on lockdown during the virus, perhaps some people might think that that is the future of education and we may not need brick and mortar schools and teachers. You could literally have thousands of students at home on I pads being taught by one person. Anyway, it's interesting to think about things like this at least for me.
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12 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
amazed DCA can survive getting 1000 paid at finals as is
DCA finals only draws 1000??? Wow.
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16 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
I heard we have one in the next county over. Nothing in Dupage county so far but I expect that will change soon enough.
That's my county.
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I have traveled to those countries, most recently spending 2 weeks in Northern Italy in early January on business. Lets just say that Hygiene is not a priority in the countries you mentioned like it is here.