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  1. 3 hours ago, Chief Guns said:

    I agree. BD shouldn't even be worried about them at the moment. NOW.......... if/when the Mandarins continue on this upward trajectory, who knows, this could be a conversation in 2026-2027. 

    But there are levels to this.

    I miss the era where you could jump or fall multiple places based on performance.  Example 1973 BD was 24th, in 74 they were 9th, 3rd in 75 & won in 76.  

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  2. 12 hours ago, crownisking said:

    I noticed that too though I've never known BD to preview show music this early on. So who knows if this will actually be in the show or not. Mandarins may also be playing this piece this year. Either way, it's a beautiful piece!

    Could be interpreted as BD in reaction mode to Mandarins & Troopers announcements.   Blue Devils keeping an eye on the rear view mirror.  These Corps are closer than they appear.  

  3. 8 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

    Bonnie & Clyde?  

     

    6 hours ago, LabMaster said:

    Sid & Nancy?

    Ok, I think we have BD’s 2024 show figured out.  
    Like 1998 (Romeo & Juliet / WSS) it is a mash-up.  
     

    Bonnie and Clyde and Sid and Nancy. Uses music from the musical Bonnie & Clyde (which is a real thing) & the Sex Pistols.  Note that the four names are alluding to a four-peat. 

    Glad we figured this out.  Good work everyone. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Chief Guns said:

    I think I read that since Covid, Max Verstappen has won like 80% of F1 Races?? That is insane! The only time he loses is when his car has issues. No one has straight up out ran him since I believe 2021/2022. 

    Blue Devils is Max Verstappen.

    Max Verstappen is Blue Devils. 

    Depends on which way you look at it lol. 

    FTR........BACs title is coming sooner than later. 

    So, to take this to an anological conclusion, the way BD loses is some sort of electronics or prop failure (hopefully without injury)?

  5. 1 hour ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

    I doubt it.  Drum Corps isn't special and immune from the realities of the world.  Sexual violence is sickeningly common in American life in general:

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html

    "Sexual violence is common. Over half of women and almost 1 in 3 men have experienced sexual violence involving physical contact during their lifetimes."

    This is only based on what is reported, let alone the unknown unreported (it's vast).  But let's put that aside and go with the data for now.  So to math out some of this data (i'm open to any corrections):

    Just shy of 42% of the USA population has experienced sexual violence in their lifetime based on that stat.  A little over 14% have experienced rape.  80% of reported rapes happen before the age of 25. 

    Choose any random 5 drum corps members.  2 of them already have, or are likely to, suffer sexual violence in their lifetimes.  Now choose 7.  One of them is likely to suffer rape in their lifetime. 

    Choose any corps.  Current capacity of 150 = 63 will suffer sexual violence in their lifetime.  21 of them will potentially suffer rape their lifetime.  17 of those people will experience it before the age of 25 according to the cdc page. 

    I don't know the actual membership numbers, but let's say 15 of the corps are at max capacity.  That's 945 people marching this summer that will or already have in their lives suffered sexual assault.  315 of them will or already have in their lives suffered rape.  255 of them will experience it before the age of 25.

    Extrapolate it back over the multiple decades many of these corps have existed, I'd be shocked if there is any corps where this has never happened.  And even if a modern corps does everything absolutely right to protect their members, it will still happen.  The sickness is in society at large.  We'll never change what is commonplace by pretending it is exception. 

     

    Numbers alone would suggest that some proportion of those assaulted will go on to become an assaulter in the future.  
     

    And the science/data geek in me wonders if there are comparable data sets from  other countries (or groups of countries like the EU)?

  6. 31 minutes ago, year1buick said:

    My daughter’s experience at Reagan was VASTLY different than mine in Commerce, Texas. (I think we had around 65 members the year we made state finals. I was half the trombone section.) 

    It was pretty easy to run into people around SA who were associated with or knew about DCI. Once, when I was wearing a Regiment hoodie, the guy making my Mod Pizza recognized it and said he was marching at Boston that summer. (He was at another big SA high school.)

     

     

    Agree that there is a ton of talent there.  Makes me think that if they recruited hard locally, Crossmen could be a perennial top 6 Corps.  Have to look at why potential members are going to Boston (for example) rather than staying local. 

  7. 1 hour ago, scheherazadesghost said:

    I was a product of a state that piggybacks music education funding on top of football funding. Is Texas the biggest or only state that can say that? Put another way, are other big drum corps states a result of football funding or some other holdover like AL/VFW legacies?

    I ask because Texas still seems to be going strong for this reason, but I'm concerned for other regions.

    I'm also thinking arts education funding is trending downwards in general... thus the widespread willingness to spend money on pop concerns rather than educational/amateur/ fine/performing arts. It takes some literacy in the arts to appreciate these forms.

    LOL Pathways was super-not-user-friendly. Many drum corps shows trend in that direction too...

    I was stationed in San Antonio for a few years & lived by one of the big HS football powers.  And they also had a very good & large band.  I suspect the success of Corps in Texas is a result of having so much local talent.  

  8. 1 hour ago, scheherazadesghost said:

    What boggles my mind is that attendance was highest around the time of my birth, the 80s, before the interwebz could be used to share the artform widely.

    By the time I marched Pathways, we'd barely recovered to the 20k mark.

    That's a quandary only my elders could really begin to reflect and respond to. I'm stumped. Unless AL/VFW and the mid 20th century wars/required enlistment played that big of a role in drum corps recruitment?? Or am I way off base?

    Pathways was quite the departure from drum corps's militaristic roots... artistically anyway...

    Back in the AL/VFW era there were posts in almost every town in America, and in cities often one in every neighborhood.   Many had Corps (usually smaller) and these Corps went to the state & sometimes national conventions, where the competition was part of the general festivities.   And the members of each post would be there to cheer on their Corps.  And some of these fans followed into the DCI era.  

    As the WW2 generation died off, fewer young veterans joined the VFW & AL. 
     

    Also, the tour is now the smallest ever (barring perhaps 2022).  So less opportunity to recruit new casual fans.   Also doesn’t help that DCI killed the regional circuits like DCM.

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  9. 22 hours ago, Vuitton said:

    Yep, I said 20-25k.

    You'd think after decades of alumni the stadium would be packed, but...

    I wonder if DCI tracks the demographics of attendees?  In other words, how many are parents/family of performers?  How many are alumni of extant Corps?  How many are alumni of extinct Corps?   How many are HS band students?  How many are fans that just enjoy Drum Corps?  How many are locals that want to see what Drum Corps is?  Etc?

    As DCI paid attendance is the biggest source of income, I would hope that corporate DCI understands who these people are. 

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  10. 8 hours ago, Chief Guns said:

    I was just trying to get the whining and crying started early. Lol.

    But now that I think of it, I screwed up and went out of order. 

    First thing that is supposed to happen is to overreact to BDs Community Performance in Wyoming, when the show is literally bare bones and nothing of substance has been added yet. 

    THEN I am supposed to cry West Coast Inflation after the first show. 

    And I think the third thing is then make threads about performers sitting out like five years if they change corps to keep them from going to BD. 

    Sigh, maybe I will get it right next year. 

    Thinking about it, I propose that what you are against is BD score inflation.  There is another Corps in the area who you wouldn’t mind getting higher scores.  

  11. 2 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:

    The separation of the deeply flawed artist from their art is a tough call. I think Woody Allen and Polanski are despicable but I have to admit that I still watch their movies. And i didn’t flinch when Crown played Liebestod last year.  https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20130509-is-wagners-nazi-stigma-fair

    Not to mention Henri Matisse, inspiration of the 2023 Blue Devils program, was to a degree a Nazi collaborator during WW2. 

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  12. On 4/3/2024 at 10:56 PM, alextiger said:

    Pretty sure I saw a band catalog years ago (almost certainly Fred J Miller) that had the classic cavalier uniform in multiple colors including red.    The princess Ann fabulous marching cavaliers is the closest real world example I could find.  Generic red jacket with a sash and black Aussie.   It’s my day off and I’m bored. 

    There was a HS band in northern Virginia in 2000s that had green uniforms identical to Cavaliers.  
     

    Saw a different HS band in Hampton Roads that attempted a direct lift of the 007 show.  Key word is attempted. 

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