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No - I was the one who asked if these were people I should recognize. My knowledge of pop culture is nonexistent, so if they were some famous entertainers or athletes I wouldn’t know who.

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I will say that they do know how to cook

I may be a bit younger, but I have considerable mileage.

A scam by any other name is still a scam

Bless you.

Well, they may have met the letter of the requirements, but they didn’t seem to meet the spirit of the requirements.

Good questions. I suspect there have been accidents with roadies for concerts or theater productions that travel from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so precedent is out there. IMHO prop safety in DCI should fall under the same umbrella as member safety from assault.

Teacher is involved; there is some nuance in Virginia law that requires it. That said, there are dozens of lawsuits stemming from this incident. The only ones who are certain to come out ahead are the lawyers. And to extend this to Drum Corps- if, heaven forbid, a member is seriously injured by a prop, I can foresee multiple lawsuits. The member, the other members who were imperiled but not injured, the members who were traumatized by witnessing the accident, etc

Concerning lawsuits on whether OSHA / workman’s comp applies - I live in Hampton Roads near where 6-yr old 1st grader shot teacher year & half ago. Newport News school is being sued by the teacher, but the school argues that it should be covered by workman’s compensation; in other words getting shot as a teacher falls under same rules as falling off a ladder. The school is trying to limit their financial liability, and I understand this, but arguing that getting shot is part of the normal risk of being a first-grade teacher is a public relations nightmare. Drum Corps really doesn’t need another member-safety incident.

I have seen suggestions that ‘climbing props’ should be certified by a professional engineer (PE) as strong enough to take the loads. Which is a good idea, but will add costs. I have relative in California who is engineer and has credentials to certify a building as safe or not after an earthquake. But, there are costs associated with these credentials, such as insurance, licensing fees, continuing education, etc. These fees are worked into what he charges customers. So if we want props verified as safe, the Corps need to budget for this.

Bump He is still listed on website. Is member safety a priority at Vessel, or not?

In 2022 Troopers cellist was safely-harnessed to the tower. That said, the tower was sturdy. On the other hand, I held my breath every time 2022 SCV members were climbing on what looked to be very sketchy props.

Channeling your inner Roman?