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He was listed on staff that year as a consultant.

Is this sarcasm or?

Yep.

Shout out to Scott Chandler for having a hand in the vision and design of '05.

Nice!

Hector Projector... Very duplicitous. Much lolz.

What about people can say what they ###### well please and deal with what emerges?

http://www.marchingroundtable.com/2014/08/20/343-dci-2014-wrap-pt-2/

Awww, thanks. I enjoy that podcast and think Tim and Dr. Allison (especially) bring up concerns and topics that they explore and explain well. It seemed to me that Tim wanted to say more, but refrained. I definitely agree and have pointed out that the hornline's voicing isn't that bass rich sound that it used to be and could be developed if written for.

Last time guys were in the guard was '10, the same time the incoming guard caption head was a staff member.

You're welcome! Thanks for missing all my points. I have never slighted the marchers (who aren't kids btw). If this is to be a true educational experience, then it is about the vehicle. The marchers deserve better. The fans do, too. Please get back with me when you can understand more views than your own. Until then, do ignore me. And btw, if you think all is well in Rockford, your blind loyalty is a liability.

You've been touchy lately. What gives?

That's what that aftertaste was. Hmmm. The more you know. That's making the most of what you have...and to think they were aiming for swans.

AND YOU'D BE WRONG ABOUT THAT! :P

Don't open that box, Pandora.

Comparing staffs head to head: GE Visual, Visual Analysis, CG SOA '11: 11, 11, 12 PR '11: 4, 5, 5 SOA '12: 12, 12, 10 PR '12: 3, 2, 2 SOA '13: 11, 10, 12 PR '13: 5, 5, 4 Now things could just be peachy next year, but there is a reason for concern. Losing the visual design and guard staff over the last two years will be tough for PR competitively.

He and I don't always see eye to eye. Plenty of PM's prove otherwise.

I'm not sure we're arguing the same point. I wasn't referring to JT at all in '08's drill. Care to clarify?

I concur.

Your argument is: JT left, corps survives, corps wins next year without JT. To parallel that year with this year would mean that all other variables are equal with '08, which is not true. If you had left out the championship reference, I would agree.

Yes, really.

Don't restructure your argument now. JT did leave. Nick S. did come in as drill designer, but it was not his drill that won. Let's not forget to credit the rest of the design that made it possible for winning (esp. the Rennicks!). That was a totally different situation to compare to this one and are not comparable. Survive, yes. Compete for a championship without the high caliber music, viz, and guard staff? No way.Hell, they were lucky to field a corps. They had to fold and restructure after the '07 season.

And let's play "how much of his original drill ended up on the field Finals night?" Next to none. Most of his original drill was rewritten during camp and then redone by Tony Hall.

And went from a Sanford contender to 8th-9th. Depends on what you mean by survive and if there is even a need to bring something of that polarity up?

If only people would listen, learn, and apply. Though I've not always enjoyed their products, they know how to create and maintain excellence. Props to Gibbs for running the organization well and to Chandler for being the model for what a program coordinator should be. (Even if it's all a big conspiracy. Lol!)