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    2021 Proposed Rule Change

    in DCI World Class Corps Discussions

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    50 minutes ago, brassboy62 said:

    2021 Proposed Rule Change.

    TITLE OF PROPOSED CHANGE: Uniform Uniformity

    DESCRIPTION:

    All competitive drum corps will use the same uniform during competition. Each corps will have their own uniforms, but they will be of the same design. The same style and construction, color and fabric. This includes hats, shako’s or any type of head cover. The same style shoes and socks. The only style and construction differential would be for different sections of the drum corps. Color guard, Percussion and Brass may need special accommodations. These accommodations will only be acceptable, if they are dictated by the needs of the section. These accommodations will be the adopted by all competing corps. No individual drum corps will be allowed to have a special accommodation. Members with disabilities, will be able to appeal to governing body, to make accommodations. Such accommodations will not be granted if they appear to be requested only to provide a competitive advantage.

    Drum Corps is a competitive activity. Corps compete with the goal of becoming the best drum corps in the world. Competitive activities require rules. Rules set parameters, rooting out opportunities to cheat or to gain an unfair advantage. With the advancements made in uniform design, corps have sought to use these technical advancements to edge out their competition. Many of these competitors would find themselves with much lower scores, without these technically sophisticated uniforms. It also should be noted that some of these uniforms contain technology that has not been tested, or in some cases, not licensed in the United States. The Color Karma Corp., based in Moscow and funded by the Russian Federation, has worked with companies supplying uniforms top rated drum corps. The Color Karma Corp. is known for designing uniforms that strategically blend color. Using color blending technics, created by the Russian Army, these color blends are designed to subconsciously alter the perception of those who look upon these fabrics. Spectators emotions can be changed with a simple costuming change, causing one to feel happy, sad, enthusiastic or even confused. In recent years, some corps have sought to create exclusive contracts with such uniform companies, to exclude other corps from this technology.

    PURPOSE:

    Drum corps will be judged by the quality of their performance and not by the fabric of their uniform.

    EDUCATIONAL IMPACT:

    The focus of the uniform design will not distract from the content of the show design. Show designers will be forced to focus on the content of the shows and not the uniforms strategic design. Corp members will need to focus on their performance and advance their competitive skills in the activity.

    CREATIVE IMPACT:

    Show designers will be forced to focus their writing on shows that capture the imagination of the spectators. They will be forced to write shows that challenge the competing members, focusing on outwriting and performing the competition. No longer will they be able to fall back on the uniform design to deliver scores.

    FISCAL IMPACT:

    With all corps wearing the exact uniform, they could be purchased in bulk, bringing the cost down. Standard fabrics would be used, which are considerably cheaper than unregulated technical performance enhancing fabric.

    AUDIENCE IMPACT:

    Audiences will be able to enjoy a pure drum corps performance. They will not be subjected to unregulated, untested and potentially harmful Soviet block fabrics.

    SHOW PROMOTER IMPACT:

    There would be no impact to show promoters

    LOGISTICTS IMPACT

    None

    JUDGING IMPACT

    Judges will not be exposed to unsafe color blends.

    Submitted by : Fans Against Untested Fabrics

     

     

     

    Ok, is this a trick or a “treat”?

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    COMMONWEALTH vs GEORGE HOPKINS 10-23-19

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    Posted · Edited by Sutasaurus

    31 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

    And each time around there are more & more billable hours.

    This is unfortunate but necessary. If you were accused of this you wouldn’t you try to defend yourself as best you could? 
     Not saying Mr. Hopkins is innocent but he is not guilty until proven so.Let the courts decide.

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    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted · Edited by Sutasaurus

    10 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

    Cappy and I have butted heads, but he's far more in tune with kids marching today than you are.

    Of course.he is Jeff......you don’t know me personally, do you? I could very well have a degree in youth counseling. I’m sure Cappybara appreciates your validation but he can speak for himself.

    Nothing irks me more than being pigeonholed because of my age......and posters who feel their opinions are more valid  or they have a closer connection because they are younger. Really? 
    A bit of respect for one another goes a long way on forums like these. Don’t you agree?
    Folks are missing the point I’m trying to make in all this misinterpreted back and forth gobbledygook. 

    Cut each other a bit of slack! Have respect for other posters and not be so quick to attack one another because they don’t agree with you.

    For heaven’s sake we all love drum corps.

    I enjoy about 85 % of the discussions on this board, so I won’t give up on sharing my viewpoints. This poster is not done yet.

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    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted · Edited by Sutasaurus

    1 hour ago, Cappybara said:

    I've been very open about the fact that I haven't marched on DCP, open thy eyes (And if you didn't know I didn't, Xandandl will gleefully tell you for me). The reason I got into DCI in the first place is because I had many friends who did march and still have a couple who are still marching. I'm just a couple years past the age limit, I think "well past" is quite a stretch. 

    What I do have, that you don't, is a better insight into the way young marchers (aka my peers) think. 

    A better website design will not make or break the corps (and no one has suggested it would, so I'm not sure why you and Mello Dude are in such an uproar about Kdaddy's very benign statement). But it WILL certainly help the corps' image when prospective marchers, especially those less familiar with DCI, come poking around to see what each corps has to offer 

    Having not marched gives you a better insight into how young marchers think? That’s interesting. Vicariously living through your friends’ experiences is not the same thing. It puts us at very different perspectives. 

    What I have, that you don’t have is the experience of marching.  It was the drum corps experience that taught me how to appreciate other viewpoints and respect fellow marchers who were younger, older, or different than myself. We all worked together as a unit to strive for improvement and eventually success...despite our differences.

    The drift I get from many of your posts is that you missed out on that part of life experience. Looking at life in general through a wider lens.

    As for the supposed uproar that you find myself and Mello Dude in? We’re expressing a viewpoint that is different than yours or Kdaddy’s. If you think we’re attacking you for your opinion maybe you’re the one who should be doing the Charmin check.
     

    It’s a big world out here. Come join us.

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    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, Cappybara said:

    It amuses me when older people think they're so in tune with the lives of young adults, while at the same time constantly criticizing the younger generation. 

    I'm in 100% agreement with you (and yup, the new content looks great)

    Ah, to be forever seventeen. You are certainly well past marching age. You’ve dodged the question before. But did you ever march?

    Please take the time and go back to when I’ve criticized the “younger generation”and show me an example. I have expressed a dislike for what currently passes as show design but I’ve never criticized any marching members for their efforts.
    In the meantime I request you refrain from taking such broad strokes with your psychoanalyst’s paintbrush.

     

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    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted · Edited by Sutasaurus

    30 minutes ago, kdaddy said:

    Dude, I literally said that the webpage desperately needed updating and that they found the right guy to do it (which apparently isn't an okay thing to say somehow). I said social media is more important, but the website absolutely matters. You say it doesn't.

    But ultimately... WHY are you arguing this point? Why have an outdated website when you're trying to crawl out of 12th place? Why not try to market as best as possible? This hasn't been Phantom Regiment's strategy, but it desperately needs to be today. They should be going all out, including a smart webpage design to complement what I assume will be a smart design by the design staff. I really have no clue how you can argue with me about this. 

    Here's the new promo material that I assume Robert Cawthorne is putting together. It looks fantastic: https://regiment.org/pr2020-promo-help/. Or maybe they should keep doing what they've done in the past, because it appears that you and others think that's enough. Apparently this sort of thing doesn't matter to kids marching today.

     

    Dude, we’re beating a dead horse. I’ll move on if you will. This is senseless and it gets us where? Let’s just be thankful for the new media connection and call it a century. Too much Unnecessary agida.

    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted · Edited by Sutasaurus

    23 minutes ago, kdaddy said:

    With all due respect, you're not a potential marcher. 

    Social media (namely instagram and snapchat) is more important, but webpage presence is absolutely important. It'd be one other thing if other corps weren't paying attention to their webpages, but other corps clearly put an emphasis here with attractive and informative pages. And Phantom Regiment is competing with more corps than they ever have for students - corps like Mandarins, Crossmen, and Spirit, among others are competitors that haven't been before. 

    It's common among Phantom Regiment fans to think that all kids know this corps and all kids want to march there. A championship in 2008 is a lifetime ago. Kids are attracted to different things these days, and corps have to respond to that. Of course, one attraction is a competent, well-designed show from the year before to recruit to, and I believe the corps will be on the road toward this in 2020. 

    I politely disagree. I’m not a potential marcher but the young people who get involved in drum corps already know what they are looking for. If they know enough to look up Phantom Regiment’s or any corps’  website they are ahead of “talking points” on a web page. It is, after all a rather niche activity so I would venture a guess that those who are looking to march already know about a corps’  history through friends and band mates. I’m not saying the Regiment’s website is the industry standard, what I am saying is that social media is the go to resource for potential marchers, the corps’ website should answer questions they might have after an interest has been created.

    Help out an old man here. When did it become a common thing among Regiment fans to think that all kids know this corps and all kids want to march there?

     That, kind sir, is a stretch.

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    2020 Phantom Regiment

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    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Cappybara said:

    For attracting new talent, the appearance of the website can matter quite a bit, even if only subconsciously in the heads and eyes of future marchers

    Perhaps it needs pictures of Charmin on it? The future members already know what they are looking for and probably don’t need bright and shiny objects to draw them in. Current information on fees, touring, requirements to audition is more important in attracting marchers.

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