Thanks everyone for the advice, this a great site for help! anyway i will certainly try some of your ideas for cleaning and as for the reverse leadpipe i have purchased a Bach Strad with a the reverse constructed leadpipe (which i got an awesome deal through a friend so i couldn't pass) as my first professional horn. My instructor, Andy Smart, said it would be a great horn for my college years. I hope none of those Stad haters attack me, i understand that there are lots of great horns out there that may be better, but i tried a lot of them and found this one to be the most responsive with my playing. I will definitely check out some different horns as my life goes on, i am not bound to one horn for all my life.
So HOT water is best for silver horns? i never knew that, i was just playing it safe before so should i try that? oh and BRASSGUYMIKE i would love to see your list for cleaning horns that would be even more helpful. email it to kyttle_kadiver@yahoo.com.
Thanks again to everyone, and keep posting your ideas.
-Krazy Kyle with a K