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Quite honestly the only worthwhile and favorite moment Ive witnessed thus far is one of the rare times that all competing corps join in and play together at retreat... depending on the number of corps at that particular show, it takes about 600 some odd Bb horns to sound exactly like 70 G bugles... very little energy and excitement in the shows the past few years.
Epically wrong!
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Cadets losing to Cavaliers in brass was CRAZY. Not even close. That entire caption was screwy last night.
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Ok - sat on the 50 at the show
IMO about a 0.5-0.8 point gap between Crown and Cadets (in brass)
SCV (should have been) about another 0.5 back from Cadets - big gap there (in brass)
Cavies (should have been) another 1 point (or more) back from SCV - HUGE gap there (in brass)
BK had a lot of ensemble tears and the brass was pretty weak and ragged throughout, personally I would have put Crossmen way over them.
Odd night of judging
Would have had it:
Crown 93.8ish
Cadets 92.7ish
SCV 91.0ish
Cavaliers 87ish
Crossmen 82ish
BK 81ish
Surf 76 or so
Good night of drum corps though!
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Rainy in the area but weather.com says it should clear out this afternoon
Show temps in the 70's
with just a chance of scattered t-stormsSounds promising
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I'm still ###### about how rudely Cadets were treated in Pasadena in 2007
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I don't think anyone is missing that point. It's regularly been acknowledged that they have a difficult show (perhaps too difficult). The fact they're not quite pulling off those "super human", "super fast drill moves" makes it look very "human". Visual isn't the only issue though.
There's still some time left though...
I agree with everything except the "I don't think anyone is missing that point" -- seems like several folks in this thread are saying they are just running around "for no point" "doesn't fit theme" -- but yup - most of us see the difficulty and the stretch they have in front of them the next 2 weeks.
I personally think they will be unstoppable in the end UNLESS percussion drops too much to BD in tenths.
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What constitutes a reason to move far distances? Their show is about super heros and working together to do impossible things. If they wanted to tight rope across the grand canyon at 250bpm while marching and playing seems like it fits with the theme!
EXACTLY!!!!!
Just like BD's scrambling around fits the DADA theme.
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Interestingly we seem unable to stick to the fact that this thread is about CAROLINA CROWN!
Na, BD doesn't get a hard time on these boards... Lol
Back to your little CROWN thread
Go back and read the OP and their original post
They set ups the discussion as a comparison of where they would place Crown compared to BD (and others) -- with Crown and BD tenths apart that's the comparison people will make
And the BD "getting the hard time on these boards" comment is precious. Go to any show outside BD's home turf, the crowds can admire the technical excellence of BD but their not exactly throwing babies. DCP is just reflecting of that. Lucky for BD the judges continue to define "GE" as a design thing instead of an EFFECTIVENESS thing. Shows which don't connect with the audience shouldn't be dominating GE IMO.
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I enjoy the show and I appreciate what they're trying to do, but they are not marching well. I feel that they are getting the benefit of the doubt because the drill and music design is strong (not necessarily the overall concept).
Blue Devils are moving at a different level individually and as an ensemble. Cadets and Phantom also seem technically better. If you're going to do something that challenging, then you need to be clean at the end. I just don't see them getting there.
To say they are "not marching very well" is a bit of an exaggeration - are we all THAT jaded?
They march and look wonderful, but struggle in the interim marching
It will get cleaner by finals but yes - BD will be CLEANER - but cleanest doesn't always win. BD was cleaner last year than Cadets, and we see what happened there...
SIMULTANEOUS DEMAND still matters.
Crown will end up winning Brass & GE Music. GE visual is a toss up. It will come down to drums. Crown should get out the hoses and try to make the drum line as clean and effective as possible.
I still give the edge to Crown, more room to grow IMO.
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it seems like a lot of people are missing the "super human" quality of all the super fast drill moves and amazing come out of no where stops and impacts
fits their show theme VERY well
They are "superhuman" drum corps gods. IMHO.
Besides - it's darn FUN too. And COOL.
DADA that.
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closer at the top for sure! Go Crown!
Cadets also seem to be closing the gap - from five points now down to 3 in 5 days...
Bluecoats nipping at SCV
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It's not over.
And if if "it" was, it isn't all about "it" anyway - these kids still have an amazing 11 days ahead of them, and we get to go along for the ride!
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in my view Crossmen will make finals... just has that IT factor
will be close but personally give them the edge
regardless, so excited for their great show this season!
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IN YOUR OPINION
Glad most of the world's media didn't agree with you
Whatever dude. Geez.
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So BD's staff *did* design this show?
CLASSIC.
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I was thinking the same thing. For those that were bored, they probably didn't get half of what was going on. You find that often with British humor...some people just don't get it.
oh please!
I've lived there, half my family LIVES there, I GOT IT.
It just wasn't very good. Reeked of shoe-string budget (in comparison to the last few) and was filled with leftist ideals, slow pacing, bad "dancing", terrible "drumming", weak transitions, very bad "pop" music for the most part. It just wasn't very good IMO
Just because somebody doesn't like something, doesn't mean they need a users guide to it, or it went over their head. Same goes for drum corps :)
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It was terrible, everyone at our "viewing party" was bored
Pretty sad when they put so much time and effort into these things. I liked the beginning, but wow did it go down hill quick.
To keep it on topic - yes I think a drum corps staff could do a better job than a movie director
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NEWS FLASH
The world doesn't revolve around YOU.
Wahhhh! :)
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been stupid AND around year after year, at some point it became "a tradition"
annoying and rude - which the OP observed
not cool
In my opinion of course,
G.
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Anything is possible, but I don't see it. Taking a phrase from politics, I just don't see a "path to victory" for Crown when you look at the captions.
GE, guard and Brass.
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This is the correct answer. The Cadets weren't close execution wise.
Well we all have our own perceptions. I felt percussion gap was HUGE in Cadets favor, and Cadets should have won visual GE by a mile. Brass was a toss up, but visual Cadets were more impressive. Again IMO.
I still can't get over the rude crowd. But that's another situation altogether. People getting drunk and stoned in the lot before hand didn't help matters.
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All Crown has to do is beat them once. An ALL IN throwdown. Then they'll know what it takes to do it ... and then they'll have the challenge of replicating that type of effort (I say effort in the truest sense). Once Crown knows what that level is ... I think they can maintain it and do exactly what BD did in 07 .... to BD this year.
It will happen in Allentown. Crown won't look back IMO.
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I think Crown will get a bit closer over the next two weeks, but then BD wins by a comfortable margin. See also: 2007.
But BD shouldn't have won in 2007. (IMO) Not the best corps on the field that year, not even CLOSE
Judges just hated Cadets show
The other way around works too - last year it was a love fest for Cadets show, but BD out performed them. It just didn't matter
Sad situation really. When the designers determine the champion out-right.
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Crown really recovered from last nights lackluster performance. Good Job
I thought they marched a much better performance as well. Same with Cadets.
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DCI 30 years ago, and the decline of Drum Corps.
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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What a cheerful thread for FINALS WEEK!
Good grief