CrownBariDad
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Do you have to be friends to read the tweet?
Nope--you just have to "follow" the tweeter. That's how all the groupies (am I showing my age?) follow their favorite celeb.
I mainly follow CorpsScores to get DCI scores sent to my phone.
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Rumor has it Crown might have some ending changes either tonight or in Allentown. Wish we had some reviewers who could confirm this.
Go Crown. Rach on!!!!
All the best to all the Corps tonight!
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Heard the new ending! Its definitely promising !!
OK--I see your choice of words here.
Son just says it's awesome and "pretty scary drill wise". Won't say more.
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The rest of the corps will perform stand stills. What is a stand still?
The Corps line up in a concert arc (like for encore) and play the show without marching. If it's raining, might make problems with electronics. (Thinking about Crown's show with the piano solos.)
Edit: Last again. Sigh!
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hello Mrcrownbaridad, i would like to say that herbert washington on rifle is a solist in his own right. what an amazing performer. good luck and your corps is amazing.
Yes--Herbert is definitely in a class by himself. This is his age-out year. I'm going to miss seeing him on the field next season!
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Colts are on the field now. Got a message from someone who is there. She said rain has stopped.
Thanks!
Rain--glad to hear it stopped. Hopefully the field is OK.
Good luck to all the Corps tonight! Go Crown!
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I assume the show has started, correct?
Any reviews or tweets?
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I have a son in the blue stars.
I was going to buy tickets to finals, but then I remembered this new prelims deal.
Blue devils B and Vanguard B Currently have scores placing them in the top 12.
Are these scores a direct translation to open class?
Should I hold off buying tickets, because the Blue Stars are currently near the bottom of the top 12 World Class
Open Class sheets don't correlate to the World Class sheets that will be used to judge Prelims/Semis/Finals. You can probably search DCP and find the point difference, but I think the current top 12 are safe. Top 17--probably not.
Edit: OK guys--I type pretty fast, but you still beat me. Kudos!
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without a doubt the Boston Crusaders baritone soloist. bring him home . the last note 21 counts long amazing
Yes--got my vote!
Also: Academy's piccolo trumpet solo and Spirit's flugel solo are also tops!
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I personally would love to see the differences in volumes between a corps' sound in the lower levels as compared to that at somewhere closer to the press box. And also, if you ever get a chance to take measurements from horn arcs, you would be my hero (I want to know which brass line really is the loudest lol).
I tried to do this at Finals last year as we were in one of the upper levels. However, we were sitting in the Crown block seats with large groups of Cadets and Cavies fans close by. The crowd noise and cheering made it impossible to get an accurate reading.
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Did anyone mention recaps are up?
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Possibly because SCV is playing with a better balance and timbre than some of the other corps, which will make them sound louder, and amps up the decibels. And they have been pushing the volume up every day.
I'm just happy to see Santa Clara pumping out that kind of volume! Climb that staircase everyone!
I've also wondered about tuning. Barbershop quartets can hit a chord and it just rings--and sounds louder. But is it really? If a Corps is playing in perfect tune (got those 3rds and 5ths just where they need to be), will they sound louder? And will they actually BE louder?
I'm way beyond what I know about acoustics, so if there are any PhDs in acoustic engineering or in music out there, feel free to chime in.
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I'm a SCV supporter but how is it possible that SCV had a louder "rating" than BD and others? SCV has been bashed for not playing loud all year. Is it more the perception that for the majority of their show they're playing softly while others are playing loudly for the majority of their show?
With only a few data points for SCV's show, I can't say for sure. But, I think you're probably right.
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I was up in the nosebleeds, and it seemed like the loudest, in no particular order, were definitely Phantom, BD (who actually gave me chills! there's a first time for everything...), and Madison. I wonder if some of the sound went above the low seats?
As was pointed out last year at Quarterfinals, many corps aim for the Press Box and some better than others. So, probably yes, some direct sound went over the lower seats.
But, also IIRC volume drops off exponentially the further away you are. Just guessing here--but if I measured where you were sitting, the overall numbers might have been lower (due to distance), but the spreads might have been closer (more horns aimed at you). I hope I'm explaining this well.
Thanks!
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Don't know if it's been said yet, but Cadets unfortunately marching 3 holes in the brassline tonight, apparently a flu bug.
Bummer! I hope EVERYONE gets well for these last 2 weeks!
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That's impressive with the lower register played.
It could also be because of concert Bass Drum hits in the pit. I didn't mark anything special for that in my notes.
A little BD goes a long way! (Pun intended--in a nice way.)
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Bluecoats marimba player coming out to center of field and throwing (and catching) an 8 with a rifle.
This!
In an interview with Dan Potter in Atlanta, he said he didn't have any guard experience--he just hung out and picked up the moves. Cool!
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Congrats Cavies!
Way to go Spirit!!!
And thanks to all the Corps tonight!
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...this is the first time that the words crown is on the field does not mean a good thing...
LOL!!!
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Post on Spirit's Facebook page says there is a hump or ridge in the middle of the field that makes things interesting.
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Yes and Spirits go to 12. Wish it wasn't so loud cause it distracts from how loud the horns really are which is... LOUD!
Actually, for the Atlanta show Spirit had turned down their amps quite a bit. I was even going to measure the audio and sound effects during Spirit's show, but hearing the marked difference (from Gadsden), I didn't bother.
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OK--here are the rest of my measurements and notes.
For each corps, they should be in music order. I don't have all the corps reps memorized, so I may call anything slow a "ballad" and use generic terms like opener, closer, next section, etc. when I didn't know the tune title. I was able to measure over a time span (usually a defined section of the corps' show) and then could see the max level on the meter, which is presented here with notes on where it occurred. Hopefully, those of you more familiar with the music will be able to match the measurements to the section. Of course, for the "ballad" there is usually (but not always) a nice crescendo which represents the max value.
P&B = "park & bark"
And see the correction for Cascades.
Alliance: 108
- 102 ballad
- 108 closer
Jubal: 108
- 106 opener
- 108 "shout" chorus
Pioneer: 106
- 101 opener
Jersey Surf: 112
- 110 opener
- 112 closer
Teal Sound: 109
- 108 first brass hit
- 109 (w/ bass drum)
- 108 closer
Mandarins: 109
- 102 opener
- 106 2nd part
- 107 pit/battery feature
- 109 closer
Cascades: 110 <= CORRECTION (was 109)
- 107 opener
- 110 pit feature before ballad
- 104 ballad
- 109 closer
Crossmen: 112
- 111 opener (corps in spread formation)
- 108 hit on end of latin number
- 109 "Spinning Wheel"
- 100 ballad
- 112 closer
Pacific Crest: 108
- 103 opener
- 107 "park & bark" (P&B)
- 107 following section
- 103 before percussion break
- 108 before closer
- 106 closer
Colts: 111
- 111 opener
- 110 next
- 106 ballad
- 111 closer
The Academy: 110
- 110 opener "Little Fugue" after piccolo trumpet solo.
- 107 next (spread formation)
- 106 ballad (spread)
- 110 closer
Glassmen: 113
- 113 opener hit
- 102 pit
- 110 ballad
- 111 drum feature after the "silver flags"
- 103 P&B
- 108 just before the "red sheet" is displayed
- 110 closer
Troopers: 110
- 105 opening chord
- 109 next section
- 110 before slow section
- 106 "infinity chord" - only brass
Blue Knights: 108
- 90 "Bonny Boy" audio
- 105 opener
- 105 next part
- 108 after drum feature
- 105 end of ballad
- 107 end
Blue Stars: 108
- 102 opening audio.
- 105 opening
- 108 next
- 106 before slow section
- 107 closer
Spirit of Atlanta: 113
- 113 opener
- 111 before the "Lady in Red"
- 105 ballad
- 113 "Harlem Nocturne" end
Santa Clara Vanguard: 111
- 110 opening hit
- 106 before ballad
- 102 ballad
- 111 closer
Boston Crusaders: 107
- 107 opener
- 106 before 1st 1812 theme
- 106 closer
Madison Scouts: 119
- 107 opener
- 107 "New York, New York" (On the Town)
- 106 next
- 109 company front
- 119 closer
Bluecoats: 111
- 107 opener
- 110 next part
- 105 before synth section
- 110 P&B
- 111 closer
Phantom Regiment: 114
- 108 opener
- 108 hit in Verdi Dias Irae
- 108 next before 3/4 section
- 109 ballad
- 114 next before Elsa's
- 112 Elsa's
Carolina Crown: 120+
- 112 first hit after pre-show
- 110 "Paint It Black"
- 105 ballad
- 112 "fake" end
- 120+ last chord
The Cavaliers: 113
- 113 opener
- 105 where the stilts enter
- 109 after upside down tenor feature
- 111 P&B
- 104 brass arc after bari/mello duet
- 108 closer
The Cadets: 110
- 105 opener
- 109 angels & demons battle
- 110 end of "160 BPM"
- 102 end of Doxology
- 110 closer
Blue Devils: 109
- 106 opening hit
- 109 just before battery/pit feature
- 106 "Promises, Promises" P&B
- 106 closer
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The number you got for BS upsets me. Did you by chance do any decible levels for 2009? I loved playing the loud chords during the "war" section just before taps.
Sorry--I didn't think about doing any measurements until the 2010 season. The only show I saw live in 2009 was in Atlanta and we were seated pretty far back.
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I'm not sure I'm any more convinced. If 3dB is doubling the power, how do we explain Crown at 11dB above BD? Surely they were double, triple or more louder?
No disputing, just not computing ..
HH
I think that's why a sound meter is more objective--we humans sometimes perceive things (sight and sound, for example) that instruments tell us we're not really seeing or hearing. Add in the music factor and certain frequencies can add to the perceived loudness.
Could BD have been just as loud as Crown playing Crown's music? I'm absolutely certain they could. Remember--different shows, different arrangements, even different field formations.
Does it matter that I measured Crown at 120 dB and BD at 109? Not in the least. These are just gee whiz numbers which don't mean anything as long as you like what you hear (and personally, I liked both shows a lot).
Anyway, what's a few dBs among friends? Thanks!
Warrenton, VA
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My son is equally closed mouthed about the changes. He did say the closing drill was "scary". Someone who saw a recent rehearsal heard lots of horn clangs during the drill. I'm sure they'll get it all worked out.