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    Percussion Scores shakeup in NJ

    in DCI World Class Corps Discussions

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    I don't know where you got your scores...but PR came in 2nd with a 16.10. And, I don't know the details of Crown's center snare not being there, but is it safe to blame their score on that? That's what it sounds like people are trying to do...I don't know though. I'm just saying a missing center snare shouldn't change a place in drums anyways.

    Is there anyone here who marched percussion that can tell us the importance of a "center snare"? It just seems like if they have a name for the position, it carries a certain amount of importance and when she's not there, it could affect the rest of the line.

    Just curious.

    randy

    Standings!

    in DCI World Class Corps Discussions

    Posted · Edited by CrownBariDad

    It is rare indeed where the judges scores and placements will be what the majority of fans would have have the placements, scores and spreads, Randy. Nobody REALLY understands the judging process. No matter if they have been a fan for 1 year or 50 years. Only the judges know the process. And even among themselves they oftentimes disagree. We had judges in the stands a few days ago as spectators reportedly tell a fan sitting beside them that their placements that nite would have been much different than the judges working the show that nite and evaluating the shows from only feet away in the booth. So my suggestion would be to just enjoy the shows, as from a fan's perspective, most of the time, the placements and spreads will seem incomprehensible to you. That said, enjoy the season !. They'll be some GREAT shows put on this year !

    Thanks for the reply. I was thinking about the rankings posted on DCP, not how the shows are judged (I've lurked this forum enough in the past years to know not to broach that subject :thumbup: ).

    It just appears that those corps who appeared in the WV show where there is a missing set of recaps have weighted scores (on DCP) that are about 2/3 of the other corps. For instance: Crown and Cadets. It seems the Overall scores are correct, but let's take Overall Music Caption scores. If you use the weightings posted on DCP and take the last 3 shows for CC and Cadets (FirstBeat, WV, and Normal) and give them both zeroes for the WV show, you will get something close to the weighted score shown on DCP.

    Ex: Crown: 31.7*0.5 + 0.0*0.25 + 30.1*0.25 = 23.375 (compare to 23.405)

    If you give them a reasonable Music score for WV (29-30), then they both shoot up to near the top (where I'm thinking they should be).

    Ex: Cadets: 31.0*0.5 + 30.0*0.25 + 30.3*0.25 = 30.575 (compare to 22.980)

    [i hope my math is right!!!] It just appears that the missing WV recaps are not being reflected in the weighted scores and those corps who marched WV are not getting their true rankings. Am I making sense here or am I still missing something?

    And, yes--there are/will be some GREAT shows this year. Can't wait to see one in person!

    thanks,

    randy

    Standings!

    in DCI World Class Corps Discussions

    Posted

    It is rare indeed where the judges scores and placements will be what the majority of fans would have have the placements, scores and spreads, Randy. Nobody REALLY understands the judging process. No matter if they have been a fan for 1 year or 50 years. Only the judges know the process. And even among themselves they oftentimes disagree. We had judges in the stands a few days ago as spectators reportedly tell a fan sitting beside them that their placements that nite would have been much different than the judges working the show that nite and evaluating the shows from only feet away in the booth. So my suggestion would be to just enjoy the shows, as from a fan's perspective, most of the time, the placements and spreads will seem incomprehensible to you. That said, enjoy the season !. They'll be some GREAT shows put on this year !

    Thanks for the reply. I was thinking about the rankings posed on DCP, not how the shows are judged (I've lurked this forum enough in the past years to know not to broach that subject :thumbup: ).

    It just appears that those corps who appeared in the WV show where there is a missing set of recaps have weighted scores (on DCP) that are about 1/2 of the other corps. For instance: Crown and Cadets. It seems the Overall scores are correct, but let's take Overall Music Caption scores. If you use the weightings posted on DCP and take the last 3 shows for CC and Cadets (FirstBeat, WV, and Normal) and give them both zeroes for the WV show, you will get something close to the weighted score shown on DCP.

    Ex: Crown: 31.3*0.5 + 0.0*0.25 + 30.4*0.25 = 23.25 (compare to 23.405)

    If you give them a reasonable Music score for WV (29-30), then they both shoot up to near the top (where I'm thinking they should be).

    It just appears that the missing WV recaps are not being reflected in the weighted scores and those corps who marched WV are not getting their true rankings. Am I making sense here or am I still missing something?

    And, yes--there are/will be some GREAT shows this year. Can't wait to see one in person!

    thanks,

    randy

    Standings!

    in DCI World Class Corps Discussions

    Posted

    Just curious--with no recaps for the Charleston WV show, is that somehow affecting the DCP rankings? It seems like a lot of the corps who participated in that competition are listed lower in the rankings than I would have thought.

    But, then again, I may not understand the entire process.

    thanks,

    randy

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