mboogey73
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Outlier scores all over the sheets tonight. I think we'll look back when the seasons over and that will still be the case.
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I've tried to be optimistic about it, but the screamer doing the step up high notes while they're moving into the set for the big push in the ballad is not working. It's a distraction because it's very thin, shaky, and takes away from the ensemble. If dude could nail it every time with some power it would be a different story, but that's not what's happening. Save that screamer for the very last note he hits, which is much more impactful.
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5 minutes ago, MarimbaManiac said:
Like irony, I don't think you're using that correctly.
Yes, most things are subjective, but saying their front ensemble book is "the hardest on the field" as the other poster stated is plainly wrong. It stems from the compositional choices of their arrangers, which is incredibly consistent. BD focuses on unison work, combined with flourishing technique to convey performance effect. I've worked with both Dave and Brian and that's just their style, and it trickles down to the other groups they teach. Fast runs, sure. 4 mallet independent mechanics, sure...but there are usually only 2 or 3 voices happening, it's concentrated into a lot of unison work so they can all move together which is a priority for them. SCV on the other hand focuses on a depth of orchestration, which means more people are doing their own thing, and is more difficult to align.It's two completely different approaches, one that prioritizes ease of cleanliness and synchronous movement, and one that prioritizes orchestration and complexity.
I didn't say front ensemble I said they would continuously win drums which includes the battery.
Even if I gave you the point on the front ensemble, which I don't, I can assure you BDs battery book blows away the competition exponentially as far as difficulty is concerned every single year. Period.
and I like how you said you weren't trying to say BD didn't deserve any of those titles, and you recently posted that Carolina crown should've ran away with the gold in 2009. Kayla today
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1 minute ago, GraysonHarris said:
That front ensemble in 1994 led by Ed Cloyd was WICKED 🙂
Cloyd was the man. I enjoyed every minute I spent with that group. I was a late addition. Boy, was I lucky.
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1 hour ago, MarimbaManiac said:
False. This is flat out false. The BD front ensemble is a lot of flash with very little substance, they haven't had the best pit book in decades, and usually they aren't even in the top two.
Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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My apologies if I'm missing something obvious, but I don't get into studying all the high concept ideas in these shows.
During the closer when they march the rotating Olympic rings, there's a gap in every one of the rings as they rotate. Is there some reason for this that I missing?
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22 minutes ago, MarimbaManiac said:
Yes, interesting and exciting are general laymen descriptors that can be mapped to specific areas of the GE sheet. I've been of the opinion for years that most GE judges are too heavily weighting cleanliness vs. effect. Clarity of intent is only one aspect of the sheets, but tend to be leaned on heavily. It's easy to point to cleanliness when you don't fully understand how to quantify the more elusive sections of the categories.
Again, BD knows this and they design with cleanliness in mind over anything else. For instance, in 2009 Crown should have run away with the gold. Their show was unique, and daring, and engaging, and incredibly difficult. BD did the same thing they always do, and was marginally cleaner. That's a failure of judging and the general judging paradigm. When we're talking about the top 3 corps who are all achieving at roughly the same level, effect and innovation should win the day, hands down.So difficulty is the most important factor? At some point execution has to matter. And you're not paying attention if you think some of what BD does visually is just stuff that's easy to clean.
Using your logic BD should win drums pretty much every year because their book is consistently exponentially harder than anyone else. This year included.
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BD dominated GE.
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39 minutes ago, Chief Guns said:
When is the last time ScoJo watered down a book? 2016 maybe??
He most likely won't, and I'm fine if he doesn't, but you could make the argument the difficulty level is at the point of diminishing returns.
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Second show in a row where the percussion content score was fine with the achievement score lagging. I'll say it once again, curious to see if ScoJo breaks out the hose or rides it out. I'm obviously a complete homer, but I'm a firm believer that a few Sanford's have been left on the field the last few years because the book was outrageously difficult.
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12 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:
Bluecoats were 4th in drums here last year, lots of season left. And they’re a placement higher with a 1st in guard.
True, and they ended up in 1st place for drums, but were still almost a point and a half behind BD overall.
Season not over, and crazier things have happened. We'll find out soon enough.
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24 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:
Find it interesting with all the BD dominance talks and talks of record breaking that the spreads beneath them are about a half a point closer than they were last year at this time and they lost a lot more subcaptions. 9 this year versus 4 last year.
Are they still dominant and probably gonna go undefeated? Absolutely. Consistently 1-3 in all captions is gonna do that when everyone below them in the rest of the top 4 has subs as low as 5th - 8th. But maybe a few more cracks this year than last year. They’re amazing at what they do as always. BAC got REALLY close last year and is closing in again like they did Atlanta week 2022. I’m feeling a little competitive tension at the top.
Crusaders have a chance to make it interesting as far as running up on BD. Everyone else is out of luck in that regard. Bluecoats success in the last few years is in no small part due to their percussion scores, and that's lagging quite a bit this year. Ditto Crown with their brass numbers, and the fact their drumline just ain't it.
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For anyone who still needs to understand the concept of strength in all captions, tonight's recap is a good illustration. BD didn't win colorguard, brass or percussion, but put up a ton of 1s, some 2s and barely anything below that. Still won by a point.
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BD 1st in percussion content. Must have had a rough night. Interesting to see if they break out the hose eventually. They could water that book down significantly and it would still be the hardest out there.
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Devs - As expected
Cavies - Nice drums win
Bloo - Better get drums figured out or they won't even medal
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Still waiting on that closer.
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Just now, Boss Anova said:
BD has tightened up movement 4 . First half of show is spectacular . Ending is a placeholder ad show ends abruptly . This won’t be their closer , imo.
Stone cold lock the closer is a placeholder. BD always deals with the closer late in the season. The closing sets as they are now are terrible.
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While we're talking about the battery, we need to talk about what BDs bass line is doing these days. All bass lines are leaps and bounds better than they were years ago, but what BD is doing is just sick. They're almost playing tenor splits at this point. If you haven't done it, take a few minutes and just focus on what they're doing with their book. Outrageous.
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Can't wait to see the show live. I'll be at the Winston-Salem show later this month.
As good as that screamer is I'm curious to see if they keep all of it in the ballad. It's spotty at the moment.
As usual, Scott Johnson swinging for the fences with a ridiculously hard book. Those rim shots in the solo are very difficult to clean and nail consistently.
Obviously, the closer is not done and that should be something to see once they finish it.
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7 hours ago, Cappybara said:
People will probably find this annoying, but I'm going to post it every single show leading up to the first meet-up between all the top corps: BD is going undefeated this season, and it will not be close.
I find that quite comforting.
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Second half definitely needs work. Closer sounds like old school Phantom Regiment.
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7 minutes ago, Chief Guns said:
Just went back and viewed the retreat from 2013 and 2016. I guess the Crown and Bluecoats performers forced BDs performers to hug/embrace, and put huge smiles on those BD faces after scores were announced.
Don’t even bother. Best response to haters is often no response. BDs continued dominance does all the talking we need.
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No one spreads out, and condenses like BD. It’s been a trademark of most of their closers for years.
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Blue Devils in the Details 2023
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Not the least bit concerned. BD came in 3rd in GE with one judge, and was 3rd in colorguard. Despite all that Crusaders was only able to "close the gap" a minuscule amount.
We good.