AlexL
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I would actually be very happy with that.
Same. I loved Frank's work with Blue Stars his last time around.
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Tim Snyder officially announced his resignation from Troopers via Facebook :(
Sounds like he already knows where he's headed next as well.
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But what a 92.x, and 5pts behind the current champion, tells me, is that they are years away from winning a title.
Anyone can say that The Cadets can come out next season and compete for a title, and it would be feasible.
Blue Stars in 2010, 91.9 and probably should have beaten SCV for 7th, to say that it was feasible for them to come out in 2011 and compete for a title, one would be out of their mind. Just using the Stars as an example. Same with Blue Knights. They aren't ready to compete, but saying Cadets are 5 pts behind the current champion tells the community that they are now at a level in which they are mid tier and have a long ways to go to get back to the top.
That's what those scores tell me.
And i think that's where you're wrong. You cant read that much into the future of an organization from its current score.
Hell, Cadets themselves were 4 points off the champ in 2010 and won in 2011. Bluecoats were 5 points off the champion in 2013 and won in 2016.
The fact is, scores just tell us how a corps is performing on that particular date. They dont tell us what kind of talent the corps has coming in for next year or what kind of design staff are employed. In your example between BS and Cadets, Cadets are better set up because they likely have a higher talent level coming in than blue stars did in 2010. Theyre still The Cadets. Blue Stars were maximizing both from execution and design where they were at the time as an organization, whereas cadets, well.... arent. That leaves a lot of room for quick growth at cadets, where the growth for a corps like BS2010 is the type that takes longer.
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Record attendance for Indianapolis, but far from an overall record. IIRC, that happened in Montreal in '81 or '82, with north of 40k in Olympic stadium.
Sure, but the capacity of the venue and recent historical attendance is what's relevant here. 81 was 35 years ago and irrelevant to current discussion.
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. Since 2009, my seats for all three shows are sec.140, row 1, seats 11 and 12. This Is the first time someone asked to see my ticket after I politely told them that they were in our seats. Pretty brazen.
This year was near record attendance, wasnt it? I think that's part of the problem. Less and less actually open seats for corps members to sit in on the sideline sections of the field, where it was less of a problem with more seats open in past years. (Wasnt long ago attendance was ~17000, where this year it was 22k. A lot of seats to fit the members\staff in) Place was packed. May have legitimately been people who grabbed a seat that was unclaimed earlier, and thought it was 'theirs' for the night, and not fair game for anyone else without a ticket to grab... resulting in those people asking for a ticket before moving..
That being said, the first rule of grabbing seats as a member\staff is that while grabbing seats is generally viewed as OK, you also give those back to someone if they have the tickets.
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That's the rub.
In any competitive activities--and even business--much bad activity is swept under a rug in the name of "winning". Whether it is athletes breaking laws, or business leaders who are abusive bosses, people tend to look the other way as long as the team/player is in the win column or corporate profits are hight.
It is only when things go sour, that people finally start to talk, but many of the issues were there all along.
Yep. Not only do things that were brushed under the rug before get attention, oftentimes that starts a cycle where people who feared getting attacked (or ignored at best) if they revealed their issue with the program feel more free to start sharing as they can see people more receptive to hearing it.
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Cascades: O part 2.
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Did The Cadets really put out a performance on Saturday that was only marginally better than Blue Stars in 2010? Of course not.
Were they though? That Houdini show was bad ###. And as you noted, it was mere tenths from being 7th place. Is it that surprising that a show that easily couldve been 7th would score only marginally below a 6th place show?
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Im generally in agreement with you about The Cadets(and basically all scores from 4-12) being too low when compared to other years. That being said, although scores DO matter, it is pretty much pointless to imply that The Cadets show is "only marginally better than the Blue Stars in 2010" because you simply cannot compare two shows, judged by different judges 6 years apart from each other. What is interesting, in my opinion, is the increase in the gap between the Cavies and The Cadets over the course of championships.
The Cadets were .262 ahead of the Cavies in prelims and by finals they ended up 1.262 behind the Cavies(1.524 total movement by Cavies). I'm not saying that the Cavies didn't deserve 5th place, but I do not think that the margin should have spread that much in just 3 days.
We dont know that it really 'expanded' per se. Being different judges and all. For all we know the scores wouldve been exactly the same thursday as saturday had the finals night judges been judging thursday night.
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Bluecoats - Circus
Blue Devils - Watery
Carolina Crown - Chocobath.
The Cavaliers - Ads
The Cadets - Cake
Blue Knights - Drugs
Blue Stars - Sleepy
The Academy - Fun
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With that being said, what do we expect from a community that has an annual post feasting on the job loss of others? It makes me wonder how many members have actually spent time with any of these professionals and their spouses and their children and have the ability to see them as actual human beings and not pieces and your little name of the fantasy football league.
Much like any other 'professional level sport', there are always changes each offseason, and speculation and discussion is always going to happen with them. Some people will be excited by those changes, others not. Welcome to the big leagues. As long as things dont get incredibly personal (big difference between 'this brass staff didnt perform' vs 'xyz brass caption head is terrible and sucks at life') its just to be expected.
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Meanewhile just because the members had a successful season in terms of their development and such, it doesn't mean that nothing else matters for an organization. For YEA (or any group to be successful) the positive experiences from members, consistent donations (typically from alums having had a great experience) to primarily fund the activities, and a workplace environment that people want to be a part of, are all vital components and all depend on each other.
Yep. As im sure most who have been on both sides of things (member\staff) can attest, things can be a complete dumpster fire behind the scenes at times but the kids may not even know it or at least have full wind of it, provided the jobs are being done to prevent it directly effecting them.
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Not me. I have a very deep respect for Cadets and will hate to see things go bad for them.
Knowing very little about the internals of the YEA organization, if all the reviews are true... the bad is that this situation existed for apparently many years without anything being done about it. The good may be that changes may be happening that while painful in the short term, may be better for the health of the organization long term. With that in mind... maybe those that seem a bit happy about this arent entirely in the wrong.
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Amen. A ton of disgraceful stuff in this thread and frankly on this site anymore
Logging out and may never be back
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I support banning the recaps in Indy. I poo-pooed the idea that a judge would really be willing to try and call a caption. I'm not so sure now. So keep them guessing at finals.
Indy seems fine to keep them secret, and it builds a little suspense for the caption awards (when you know how things were thurs\fri, mathematically oftentimes its already pretty much set in stone). Release them for the rest of the season though.
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If by physically you mean hitting him, then you are correct. But if you are saying that security can never physically restrain someone, then it's going to depend on what the policy is from the company.
My area wasnt event management, but i'd assume at very least it'd be protocol to get backup involved (both for the safety of security, an additional show of force to encourage voluntary compliance, and to provide secondary validation for the decision) before attempting to physically remove someone.
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Ok... as someone that worked in security for a firm for a few months, between jobs, when I was out of college, and studying for a Brokers exam, I can tell you that we were always instructed never to initiate ANY physical contact with a person that failed to follow our directions. The protocol was to immediately use the horn to call for back up.. even a supervisor.. to bring them in to persuade the person that they needed to follow directions.. or else. Sometimes 5 or 6 security would show up, and that'd be enough to get our directions followed, or an agreeable compromise would usually be arrived at. Even in the few situations where a person got a bit violent, the 5 or 6 of us could grab him, put in in the security vehicle, and escort him off the premises.. or in rare cases, contact the local police to arrive for assistance with the violent person or persons. This Lucas Security Guard had no right to put his hand on the Troopers staffer.. and certainly not an elbow thrust to the staffers throat, no matter WHAT the staffer might have said to the security guy here. I'm pretty sure that Lucas Security Supervisors will conclude that proper security protocol by this security guard was not properly followed here. The reason proper security protocol would not allow this behavior from the guard is to avoid the very escalation that then became the aftermath of the guard's response to his directive that apparently was not immediately complied with. We were also told that it is US that has the power of enforcement over the individual. We have the obligation then to have our directions followed by verbal means with the public at all times, except if we are attacked first, then naturally the guard has the right to use physical force that is neccessary and proper to get the situation under control. This Trooper staffer however was apparently no physical threat at any time to this security person. As such, the security guard had no right at all to toss his elbow at his throat like this as an initiation of the physical violence between the two of them. None. The guard here lost control.. and thus things here quickly unraveled for both of them. I blame the Guard primarily for this. He did not follow the directions of his firm on how to properly handle directions that may not be immediately followed on the part of the public. I'm pretty confident the guard's firm will conclude this as well after a proper review of the incident here.... the only other issue here then is whether or not the Troopers were in violation of any Lucas guidelines. The guard here thought so. But the staffer looked likje he was not going to comply with the guards orders to do something... what that something was, is unclear to me at the moment. I'm no sure whether or not the Troopers were in some stadiums violation of stadium rules here or not. But thats for another discussion perhaps... but in either case, it does not exonerate the guard from his unwarranted use of physical violence upon the staffer that caused this all to go downhill in violence from there.
Seconding this as another who also spent a few months working security. This guy's job is to verbally enforce the rules, then call in for backup if they are not followed (or potentially a supervisor couldve let the troopers continue as they were). Never, ever is it his job to physically enforce any rules. 100% in the wrong, and id give high odds on the reports of him being fired being true.
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They were in a location that every single drum corps since 2009 has occupied during finals week. Various personal accounts (from sources outside the holy DCP) have noted that this "worker" has heckled various corps and their staff and members for a few years now
Somehow not surprised. I found the staff at LOS to be some of the worst all season about hassling corps members\staff as well. There was one in particular around sec 338ish that was visible being a problem both fri and sat.
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That's not going to end well. But at the same time, I found the security at LoS to be some of the most annoying all season.
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No. while I don't think this is a banner year, I do think they've improved in many areas. Just need a season to work out the kinks and get things to gel.
Agreed. I think they're improving and I think they can continue to. Of course as with every corps there's the proper analysis of what went well, what didn't, and what can be improved for next year is key, as it is for every group.
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You can't predict that. Heck even the band directors don't know that stuff until the school board puts it up to vote.
Exact dates, no. But if a whole state tends to be doing something, it shouldnt be that hard to see the winds blowing that direction.
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Schools are increasingly hesitant to allow outside groups to stay there thanks to certain events like Penn State footballs incidents. They also start earlier and give longer winter breaks in some places to save heating money during winter. Hence Michigan City being used for open class. While dci made the contract with LOS and it's attached convention center. The schools may not have had to be a part of that
The schools were obviously not a part of that contract, but it should have been on DCI to 'know the territory' before signing a 10 year extension.
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Agreed, but that's not what you said.
I didnt say anything (not the original person).
But anytime says 'no one likes\cares about something' it almost never means literally no one does. It just means that number is very small, which it is.
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Not true. There are many people interested in Open Class.
Some. But even as one who marched in open class\div2.. the number is infinitely smaller.
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