BAT Man

EDIT: I HAVE ENGINEERED MY WAY OUT OF MY PROBLEM AND NO LONGER NEED ANY PARTS. HOWEVER, I AM STILL INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING SOME K-90 PARTS IF YOU HAVE ANY IN BOXES STORED AWAY. PLEASE READ IF YOU DO HAVE K-90 PARTS. THANKS! I need to scavenge some K-90 parts, and I know probably no one has them, but I will ask, anyway. I need the two piston set, meaning the valve casing assembly and the two pistons. Valve stems, finger buttons, caps and springs can all be easily scrounged. The K-90's twin valve casing and the two pistons are NOT easy to locate, however. I am hoping someone has a destroyed K-90 they have kept around as a parts horn and it still has the valves. I cannot pay much but I can drive a long way to avoid the shipping damage that almost certainly will happen if you ship them to me. (Shipping is okay, but we would have to talk about it. I would rather drive a long way, meet a fellow drum corps nut, and make a cash-for-parts sale in person.) The pistons and the casing assembly must still more or less work, the pistons must not have holes in the tunnels or dents in the bodies, and the casing knuckles/ports must not be torn or badly crushed. That is it. If they go up and down but hang badly I can fix that in my repair shop. I am trying to fix up a beater contra for a local kid for a group we are trying to start up in my town. He has no money and I have no money to spare for parts. I am already donating my time, some parts and the needed supplies as well as doing the hunting. If I drop more than a hundred or so into this my wife will skin me alive, heh, heh... So, anyone have a beater K-90 with valves that they would consider removing and selling to me? Or do you have a complete beater K-90 that would want to unload very cheaply? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

That is a great idea. I do not know why I did not think of that... DOH! Thanks!

Bumparoonie! Anyone?

Here's a Piston/Rotor bump!

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Well, can't help you with that, but now we have more information to use, and we bumped your thread back to the top three times. Oh, and are you looking for a donor horn or do you intend to buy? My place to look would be the For Sale and eBay forums at http://www.forums.chisham.com ... but if you want to contact a seller you have to join the group. It is free, though, so no problem with that. If you do not know the answers to the two challenge questions ask me here and I will give them to you. There are no marching tubas for sale there today, but that does not mean this will be the case tomorrow or even later today. It is a pretty active For Sale forum.

Sousaphones, marching tubas, concert tubas? Budget? Tubas have far more variety than any other brass instrument, so you need to help us help you by giving more information about what the school's needs are. Budget is the most important, since even beat up school tubas can cost thousands of dollars. If you can post that I might be able to locate something near you that fills the needs of the band program. Probably not, but I can poke around. Also, are they willing to pay shipping? That will greatly magnify your/their choices. Also, have you tried searching all of CraigsList at once using SearchTempest? I use that a lot and it can be really helpful. Enter your zip code, select which category you want to search (for instance Musical Instruments) and enter some keywords and the mileage from you that you want to search. It will search all CraigsList locations within your selected distance. Very handy! If you simply enter "tuba" you will get a lot of hits, but some will be sousaphones, some will be concert tubas, very few will be marching tubas or decent quality convertible tubas (which I would avoid, anyway). Further, tubas are most commonly found used in BBb, which is what schools use, but they are made in four keys: F, Eb, CC and BBb, so you need to make sure you are looking *only* at BBb tubas. If you want any additional assistance, contact me via the private messages and I can give you some other places to look. Good luck! Wade

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I used to be "Periphery" (who posted this on TubeNet for you nearly seven years ago). Did you ever sell the Ultratone piston/rotor contra? I am currently looking for one, or for a specific part at least. Hope you're still around here. I see that you last logged in in 2010, so I am not holding my breath, but if you find this, even years from now, please respond here. Thanks! Wade

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Hello! I need a single part from an Olds Ultratone or Duratone contra. The specific part I *need* is the rear rotor bearing plate that is hammered in to keep the rotor in the casing. It lives under the screw-off back cap. The valve will not function properly without this part. I realize that no one will simply sell me this single part unless due to some bizarre miracle they happen to have one in a box and are missing all the other parts of the valve so that it is truly useless to them. That means I am willing to buy that part from you as it happens to be attached to other parts, in any form that you might have. That could be any of the following situations, where you have the rear rotor bearing plate... • Alone • As a part of a complete rotary valve that has been unsoldered from the removable F# rotor/slide unit • As a part of a complete removable F# rotor/slide unit • As a part of a complete valve section that includes the removable F# rotor/slide unit with the F piston unit • As a part of a complete Ultratone or Duratone contrabass bugle Some time back I was able to acquire a box of Olds Ultratone contra parts. These were the original Olds-made valve sections that had been pulled in order to have the modern, Kanstul-made three piston GG sections installed. This was a really great conversion and gave additional life to some of these old contras. Some folks (or corps) march with (or own) these converted (with the Kanstul kit) Olds contras even today, and somewhere - SOMEWHERE - in a dusty, old box, those old, removed valves now reside. This is because we all value such stuff and are afraid of simply throwing away parts that could once again be useful to someone out there. (Or we think we might be able to sell them or we simply forgot to toss them out.) The point is that some of these parts still exist and are not in use on a horn. Well, I am that guy. I need some of these parts. If you know of any old Ultratone rotary valve sections or parts, specifically the rear rotor bearing plate, please contact me. I am willing to buy anything from that part alone up to a complete bugle, so long as what you sell me includes this specific part. Here are some photos of that part, both loose and as it lives in the rotary valve. (If you have a rotary valve, please unscrew the rear cap to make certain that this part is present!!!) The part I need is in the center of this photo. This is the inside of the part that you cannot see if it is installed. This is the outside of the part (on the left, of course). If you have a complete F# (2nd) rotor unit with the slide still on it, please remove the rear cap to make sure the bearing plate is present. Here is a shot of what it looks like with it missing as well as with it installed. All this is for nothing if this part is missing. Since is it covered up by a screw cap it is easy to overlook. So the one on the left is a no-go. The one on the right is what I need. Thanks for your time and thought about this. If you suspect that you have this part please contact me by posting a comment in this thread or via a private message. I will send you my contact info so we can converse privately. If you simply have an Ultratone contra for sale but don't want me to cannibalize it, I can locate another of these after some time and replace it, thereby saving your old horn for my personal collection with no real harm done to it. I need this part NOW because I am building a horn for someone and cannot sell it to them until this part has been located. If I buy your horn and swipe it to complete the tuba I am making, I PROMISE to seek out another part to complete it so that it stays intact for all Drum Corps Eternity. I even promise to use it on a Guest Artist recital the next time I get called up to perform at a university. I already have the music for a p/r contra ready to go. So your old baby will be well cared for and will help me create a usable horn for a professional player at the same time. Regards, Wade

Hello! I need a single part from an Olds Ultratone or Duratone contra. The specific part I *need* is the rear rotor bearing plate that is hammered in to keep the rotor in the casing. It lives under the screw-off back cap. The valve will not function properly without this part. I realize that no one will simply sell me this single part unless due to some bizarre miracle they happen to have one in a box and are missing all the other parts of the valve so that it is truly useless to them. That means I am willing to buy that part from you as it happens to be attached to other parts, in any form that you might have. That could be any of the following situations, where you have the rear rotor bearing plate... • Alone • As a part of a complete rotary valve that has been unsoldered from the removable F# rotor/slide unit • As a part of a complete removable F# rotor/slide unit • As a part of a complete valve section that includes the removable F# rotor/slide unit with the F piston unit • As a part of a complete Ultratone or Duratone contrabass bugle Some time back I was able to acquire a box of Olds Ultratone contra parts. These were the original Olds-made valve sections that had been pulled in order to have the modern, Kanstul-made three piston GG sections installed. This was a really great conversion and gave additional life to some of these old contras. Some folks (or corps) march with (or own) these converted (with the Kanstul kit) Olds contras even today, and somewhere - SOMEWHERE - in a dusty, old box, those old, removed valves now reside. This is because we all value such stuff and are afraid of simply throwing away parts that could once again be useful to someone out there. (Or we think we might be able to sell them or we simply forgot to toss them out.) The point is that some of these parts still exist and are not in use on a horn. Well, I am that guy. I need some of these parts. If you know of any old Ultratone rotary valve sections or parts, specifically the rear rotor bearing plate, please contact me. I am willing to buy anything from that part alone up to a complete bugle, so long as what you sell me includes this specific part. Here are some photos of that part, both loose and as it lives in the rotary valve. (If you have a rotary valve, please unscrew the rear cap to make certain that this part is present!!!) The part I need is in the center of this photo. This is the inside of the part that you cannot see if it is installed. This is the outside of the part (on the left, of course). If you have a complete F# (2nd) rotor unit with the slide still on it, please remove the rear cap to make sure the bearing plate is present. Here is a shot of what it looks like with it missing as well as with it installed. All this is for nothing if this part is missing. Since is it covered up by a screw cap it is easy to overlook. So the one on the left is a no-go. The one on the right is what I need. Thanks for your time and thought about this. If you suspect that you have this part please contact me by posting a comment in this thread or via a private message. I will send you my contact info so we can converse privately. If you simply have an Ultratone contra for sale but don't want me to cannibalize it, I can locate another of these after some time and replace it, thereby saving your old horn for my personal collection with no real harm done to it. I need this part NOW because I am building a horn for someone and cannot sell it to them until this part has been located. If I buy your horn and swipe it to complete the tuba I am making, I PROMISE to seek out another part to complete it so that it stays intact for all Drum Corps Eternity. I even promise to use it on a Guest Artist recital the next time I get called up to perform at a university. I already have the music for a p/r contra ready to go. So your old baby will be well cared for and will help me create a usable horn for a professional player at the same time. Regards, Wade

Can you either post some photos or email them to me? I am interested in the Super Mag. Is it one of the Willson-made ones? I am assuming it is a four-valved GG contra. Yes? Thanks! Wade