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14 hours ago, TwoValves said:
For the exact same reason people asked all of their questions here during the GH debacle.
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20 minutes ago, TwoValves said:
I'm comparing how hypocritical it sounds to say "Its none of anyone's business what is happening behind the scenes" when people chose to wildly speculate, gossip and post outright lies about that situation, and now it's not even OK to wonder aloud what may be going on or why there is little info coming out from the org. I would think the other situation would have warranted a lot less public questioning. I don't recall anyone ever saying "Have you reached out to the board" when people asked about GH stories and rumors.
In other words,
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25 minutes ago, fsthnds said:
On your points about savings:
#1 I was told the savings for payroll was closer to $400,000
#2 Don't know if this amounts to much when they are doing a 6 week pre-season camp when most other corps are in the 4-5 week range. They still will be paying for food and housing but will not receive performance fees for that 1-2 week period. Then you have to add in the week of inactivity with again no performance fees in July.
As for #3 I think the loss of C2 hurt more from a level of training and talent on the field than any financial savings that may be realized.
Re. props I agree the $60K was a waste of $$$ as the props size and the awkward handling them during the show was a MAJOR distraction. Hopefullly by doing this in house it will decrease the size and the cost of props
If you're referring to the first week in July, the corps will be rehearsing in Dartmouth and then performing in two of the largest July 4th parades in New England (Bristol RI and Wakefield MA) for which I would expect they will receive performance revenue.
The alternative would've been to follow the tour down to Orlando. On the surface, this decision not to travel south seems like a prudent financial one.
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18 minutes ago, TwoValves said:
I think I just addressed this well in my above post. Asking questions is not "throwing shade." That's an unfair assessment and assumes a lot without knowing facts. It's personal, which is something that is usually frowned upon here. A little consistency, maybe?
Since no one bothered to ask - I don't in any way have negative feelings or ill-wishes for The Cadets. I'm certainly not saying anything derogatory about them. On the contrary, I am concerned about the odd lack of public comment from the actual org, and want to be reassured that everything is OK on ALL levels, not just the rehearsal/performance parts. I think that is a legitimate thing to worry about given we have seen before that all is not always as it seems.
Was there this much opposition to people asking questions about GH when the accusations were flying about? I don't recall people saying "there is no reason to talk about any of that because no one here has the answers?" Nope. Lots of people asked lots of tough questions and unfortunately, some bad things came to light. Hopefully there is nothing but good news yet to come about The Cadets. But I should not be chastised for asking thought-provoking questions.
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4 minutes ago, TwoValves said:
Senseless? Is it not OK to point out the types of questions that should be asked? There seems to be a lot of people who are "in the know" about all things Cadets. They are making bold statements about the health of the corps and the org. It should be OK to say "is anyone else thinking about these things?" And who knows? Maybe someone who DOES have those answers would get wind of this discussion and decide they should publicly address them. It's happened before. Kathy Black's video interview of late comes to mind. No one here knew the answers about how and why the "any instruments" proposal came about and a LOT of people on here made unsubstantiated claims. There's no doubt she felt compelled to respond to the rising tide of questions.
Sorry, not sorry. If it's OK for someone to say "I saw a rehearsal and everything is good" it is equally OK to day "I haven't seen any evidence of what the operational structure is so I believe there may be cause for concern." We are just opining on what we have observed. If it leads to a broader discussion and results in a more "official" statement or two coming out, then it is worth discussing. Otherwise, what exactly is the forum even here for?
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cue the Los Troopers merch
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2 hours ago, 2000Cadet said:
When is the first camp?!?!?!?!
ONE DAY TEXAS AUDITION ⁄ CLINIC
Saturday, November 23, 2019
Audition/Clinic
Spring, Texas
Saturday, November 23, 2019
Audition/Clinic
Salem, New Jersey
ONE DAY FLORIDA AUDITION ⁄ CLINIC
Saturday, December 7, 2019
Audition/Clinic
Jupiter, Florida
Friday, December 13, 2019
Audition/Clinic
Salem, New Jersey
JANUARY BRASS & PERCUSSION CAMP
NEWFriday, January 17, 2020
Drum Corps Camp
Salem, New Jersey
NEW Friday, January 31, 2020
Drum Corps Camp
Salem, New Jersey
NEW Friday, February 14, 2020
Drum Corps Camp
Bradenton, Florida
NEW Friday, March 13, 2020
Drum Corps Camp
Salem, New Jersey
APRIL CAMP & GUARD FINAL AUDITION
NEWFriday, April 24, 2020
Drum Corps Camp
Philadelphia Area, Pennsylvania
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5 hours ago, George Dixon said:
I honestly don’t find much of this very amusing. Last year they ran the corps all over the country and got little practice time. Fortunately they’re making some great changes. That corps caravan got back to Allentown last August with a boat load of issues and loose ends. I’m so glad they are taking a more conservative approach. I’m more concerned that the members love their show, have a terrific design and instruction, great big standing Os. Safe travel, nice housing and rehearsal facilities (also not always the case last year) and they become “cadets clean” - haven’t seen that in quite a while.
I’m excited!
2020 2019 Site 6/20 ThuDetroit, MI6/22 SatNorth Canton, OH6/23 SunZionsville, IN6/25 TueHamilton, OH6/26 WedPittsburgh, PA1 6/26 Fri 6/28 Fri Allentown, PA 2 6/27 Sat 6/29 Sat Lawrence, MA 3 6/28 Sun 7/1 Mon Lynn, MA 4 6/30 Tue TBD Philadelphia, PA 7/2 Tue East Rutherford, NJ 7/5 FriLisle, IL7/6 SatWhitewater, WI7/7 SunMenomonie, WI7/9 TueSioux City, IA5 7/9 Thu Knoxville, TN 7/12 Fri Casper, WY Here's a direct comparison of the first three weeks of tour. I agree that the 2020 tour is addition by subtraction for the reasons you cited -- particularly more rehearsal time for a cleaner show out of the gate.
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7 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
What hotel(s) are within walking distance of Ford Field in Detroit? I already booked St.Louis. Just trying to to get ahead of this. Thanks!
Greektown Casino would be the closest.
As a former Detroiter, I'd consider staying in Windsor and taking the Tunnel Bus.
Best Western Plus Waterfront Hotel
277 Riverside Dr W, Windsor, Ontario N9A 5K4, Canada-
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RIP Chester, PA show (their sacred sod will no longer suffer the savagery of drum corps tarps and prop-a-palooza!)
replaced by an impressive TEN CORPS lineup Wednesday 7/29 at MetLife!
- Blue Knights
- Blue Stars
- Boston Crusaders
- Carolina Crown
- Crossmen
- Jersey Surf
- Mandarins
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- The Cadets
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The Cavaliers
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28 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
That’s a long time without a show. I wonder if that’s a mistake.
Seems like they are shortening the tour (skipping Premiere in Detroit) to stay close to home, likely perform in July 4th parades (Tour de Jerséy?) and save money.
For all intents and purposes, The Cadets aren't going on tour until July 9th.
Then they'll be in 15 shows before Indy, similar to the number of performances for all other WC corps.
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13 minutes ago, rmm155 said:
And not starting until the Allentown show. Hopefully there's a uniform showoff early so I can get little dude's shirt done.
Number of scheduled performances before 7/9 -- interesting to see how they will be scored out of the gate. This leaves no room for error on design.
Blue Devils 9 Blue Knights 8 Blue Stars 12 Bluecoats 11 Boston Crusaders 10 Carolina Crown 10 Colts 11 Crossmen 12 Genesis 8 Jersey Surf 5 Madison Scouts 11 Mandarins 11 Music City 10 Pacific Crest 5 Phantom Regiment 10 Santa Clara Vanguard 11 Seattle Cascades 5 Spirit of Atlanta 10 The Academy 12 The Cadets 4 The Cavaliers 10 Troopers 8 -
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1 6/26 Fri Allentown, PA Drum Corps: An American Tradition - Allentown 2 6/27 Sat Lawrence, MA East Coast Classic 3 6/28 Sun Lynn, MA The Beanpot 4 6/30 Tue TBD, PA TBD Philadelphia 5 7/9 Thu Knoxville, TN Drums Across the Smokies 6 7/11 Sat Memphis, TN DCI Memphis 7 7/12 Sun St. Louis, MO DCI Midwestern Championship 8 7/13 Mon El Dorado, KS Drums Across Kansas 9 7/16 Thu Denton, TX DCI North Texas 10 7/18 Sat San Antonio, TX DCI San Antonio 11 7/20 Mon Lafayette, LA Drums Across Cajun Field 12 7/22 Wed Hattiesburg, MS DCI Hattiesburg 13 7/24 Fri Trussville, AL DCI Birmingham 14 7/25 Sat Atlanta, GA DCI Southeastern Championship 15 7/26 Sun Winston-Salem, NC NightBEAT 16 7/28 Tue Annapolis, MD Drum Corps: An American Tradition - Annapolis 17 7/29 Wed East Rutherford, NJ Drum Corps: An American Tradition - East Rutherford 18 7/31 Fri Allentown, PA DCI Eastern Classic 19 8/2 Sun Buffalo, NY Drums Along the Waterfront -
16 minutes ago, fsthnds said:
Cadets schedule released. No shows scheduled between 6/30 in Philly and 7/9 in Knoxville Tn.
By my count, the least number of performances scheduled (pre-Indy) for any World Class Corps
Blue Devils 22 Blue Knights 23 Blue Stars 27 Bluecoats 27 Boston Crusaders 25 Carolina Crown 25 Colts 26 Crossmen 26 Genesis 21 Jersey Surf 20 Madison Scouts 25 Mandarins 25 Music City 24 Pacific Crest 20 Phantom Regiment 27 Santa Clara Vanguard 23 Seattle Cascades 20 Spirit of Atlanta 25 The Academy 25 The Cadets 19 The Cavaliers 27 Troopers 21 -
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2015 Blue Devils (Ink) -- At the time, I was unfamiliar with Into The Woods. Now having seen multiple productions, I have a much greater appreciation for this show and see why it bested Inferno.
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1 hour ago, ShortAndFast said:
I was also disappointed to see not a word of thanks for the departing staff. Whatever their flaws, they kept the group alive and in finals through an existential crisis. There was always a gracelessness to Cadets' handling of staff under GH, I had hoped that would improve under new administration.
Yep. Par for the course.
When YEA disbanded C2 last November, Doug Rutherford's announcement was all about "survival of the Cadets" with no acknowledgement given or appreciation shown to C2 members, staff and volunteers.
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On 9/2/2019 at 2:19 AM, N.E. Brigand said:
Well, I think the parents next to me (1) were tired after a very long day and (2) had some definite anti-Cabs bias.
(During the competition, they were texting a friend about how they couldn't understand why the Cabs were ahead of the Sabers.)
If they were texting during the show, then they must not have AT&T or T-Mobile, because that stadium is a dead zone for anyone with those carriers :)
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http://dcacorps.org/dca-prelims-and-alumni-schedule/
***PRELIMS TIME CHANGE *** DCA Prelims and Alumni Schedule
2019 DCA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
STA STADIUM
WILLIAMSPORT, PAPRELIMS, SATURDAY, AUGUST 31, 2019
10:00am Govenaires Class A
10:17am Southern Knights Open Class
10:34am Sunrisers Open Class
10:51am Cincinnati Tradition Open Class
11:08am Carolina Gold Class A
11:25am Skyliners Class A
11:42am Columbus Saints Class AINTERMISSION
12:44pm Hurricanes Open Class
1:01pm White Sabers Open Class
1:18pm Fusion Core Open Class
1:35pm Bushwackers Open Class
1:52pm Caballeros Open Class
2:09pm Atlanta CV Open Class
2:26pm Reading Buccaneers Open Class
ALUMNI SPECTATULAR, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 201910:00am Tri-Valley Brass
10:25am Reilly Raiders
10:50am Brigadiers Alumni
11:15am Mighty St. Joe’s Alumni
11:40am Freelancers Alumni
12:05pm Skyliners Alumni
12:30pm Crusaders Senior
12:55pm Hamburg Kingsmen
1:20pm Hawthorne Caballeros Alumni1:45pm Special Exhibition by the Free Players
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Wild Horses (Troopers 2015)
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3 hours ago, Cadevilina Crown said:
Force of Nature gets my vote, as it's my favorite SCV show of the decade. Yes, I like it more than Babylon.
Me too!
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So many shows to like!
1 - Force of Nature. While another corps named Vanguard has medaled every year since, I still miss this Vanguard.
2 - Rach Star -- still the best timed Crocker introduction and a standing ovation on the opening hit
3 - 12.25 - have always liked this show and without this show we never get the I KNOW YOU/HIM meme with Buddy the Elf
4 - The Power of 10 - liked this show but never understood the need for the switch to the black uniforms
5 - Beneath The Surface - ballad and Bucimis
6 - Scheherazade - best use of trombones that season
7 - Beast - just ok
8 - Les Miserables -- Cadets 1989 was better
9 - Men Are From Mars - meh
10 - A Second Chance - never saw this
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21 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:
One of these shows seems to me to be sort of a remake of another one of these shows.
As in: Jagged Line = Down Side Up 2: Electric Boogaloo?
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I couldn't decide between the two Cavaliers' shows, but a show with the "Meow Mix" jingle forces me to go with
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Cadets 2020
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