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1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
Bonnie & Clyde?
Sid & Nancy?
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22 minutes ago, olddrummer34 said:
This place is overrun with negativity. Literally every thread, someone hijacks with negativity. In this thread about the cavaliers - some random person suggests that they "have a feeling" the corps is next to ceae operations, with no information. Just negativity for negativities sake.
For the good of the activity, shut this place down until the summer when there is actual discussion here.
Well that’s a somewhat ironic comment.
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On 4/17/2024 at 1:07 AM, supersop said:
I hope I'm wrong ... but I have a bad feeling this corps is next....
What makes you feel this way? Has there been any indication from them?
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I might suggest that along with the perspectives from writers and designers, if you can, reach out to George Oliviero. He can provide tremendous insight from a judging pov, throughout the evolution of the system changes, tics through today. George O has close knowledge of Zingali as well, and may have some inside bits to share on Zingalis development and influence on design as systems changed.
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1 hour ago, scheherazadesghost said:
The power differential refers to relationships between a member, of any age, and either another member in leadership or staff. Also refers to a minor age member and legal adult member.
If both are minors, they cannot consent period. If that changes on tour, one still cannot consent.
Member relationships within a power differential should be disclosed to safeguarding officers, for oversight when absolutely necessary. Staff-member relationships are a no go. Friggin' wait till they age out.
Sexual relations, on tour, because of the nature of cohabitation, shouldn't be permitted. Technically that should go for staff too. It's public exposure, and therefore illegal. I could discuss this further and maintain professionality here, but I doubt anyone really wants to go there so I'll leave it at this. Suffice to say that relationships aren't sex... and you can have a relationship on tour without it. Especially if it means you'll get the boot otherwise.
I'm pretty sure this is the rule, on paper, at SOA.
Does the above make sense?
Neither of you are being difficult. These are important questions that I surely hope corps are getting ahead of.
The only disclaimer, if you will, and I’ll state the obvious here, regarding sexual relations of staff on tour, there are married couples on tour who, in private moments may be having relations. Thinking the Floats, Rennicks and countless others over the years who have volunteered as well. I understand you don’t specifically mean them but clarity of rules matters.
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15 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
Open Class (with age capped at 17) is for kids.
Like Trix, but different.What about kids who are not interested in, or do not have the ability to move to WC, and wish to age out of OC? You just say too bad kid, you’re too old at 18, 19? Now go to a corps with a significant jump in time requirements and tuition.
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2 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
The descision to file for bankruptcy was made when settlment discusions broke off. Once the decision was made for the orderly unwinding of the organization the board then started to sell off assets to help cover the cost of winding down (return of camp fees, staff pay, vendors, etc). Just because it was not announced to the public does not mean plans were not underway. This was all TRIGGERED by the end of settlement discussions and the move to trial which the Corps could not afford.
The decision to shed assets occurred in September not at the most recent progress of the legal/civil proceedings. Camp fees were returned because most all money was gone and there were no plans being made to generate more revenue. That was made clear months ago not recently. The move to trial was the final finality of it all and chapter 7 filing the conclusion. It was becoming well known by October , Cadets were done. It was hope against hope that it was not ending. But there were no assets left, nothing coming in at the time plans would need to be made to come out in 2024. Saying they were planning a full return is dubious at best.
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8 minutes ago, Hook'emCavies said:
There were a couple of coworkers that asked me what was going on with The Cadets..... I gave them the cliff notes and they were upset.
In a way, this is like a Shakespeare story. Hopkins is responsible for pushing show design to high levels, winning championships, and folding arguably one of the greatest corps.
I honestly have complete understanding for the ladies that were affected by this and don't blame them.
As I matured, I grew to like this corps..... I think it's important to still remember the great times. It just stinks that this happened....
But I have to ask.... just why though? In my eyes Hopkin lived my dream. Why would someone do such a horrible thing and create such chaos?
Perverted Narcissism, Hubris, Power.
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3 hours ago, MusicManNJ said:
Once the settlement discussion ended, so did the future of the corps. There was a donor who was going to pay the settlement. The plaintiff's lawyers made it clear they would pursue this to trial and would enjoin any perceived successor organization. The only thing left to do was the orderly unwinding of the organization and ensuring staff was paid, refunds for the 2024 audition season were made, purchased corps jackets delivered, and the passage of time to avoid the 90-day clawback period. Assets only started to be sold when the settlement discussions ended and it was clear bankruptcy was the only option.
I thought I read and that it was confirmed, that assets were gone or returned months ago. There was no money left and no new incoming revenue or plans for funding. All of which preceded lawsuit progress. The bankruptcy decision and notifications are more recent than the dissolution of assets and corps administration as well.
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36 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
14” of snow?
That’s the forecast. Happy spring. Aaagghhh.
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9 minutes ago, craiga said:
We're down to only 7 weeks until Spring Training in Castleton! Woohoo! The corps members and staff get into town on 5/24 and rehearsals begin on 5/25. I cannot wait! Eat'em Up, Boston! !!-!-!!!
We have heard from posters here about how to cut costs and that ST for some corps was longer than tour. I don’t believe this is the case this year for Boston. My understanding is that Castleton ST will be less than 3 weeks long. That will certainly reduce costs, however it does put the corps “on the road” for a bit longer period of time before their first show. Between ST and the first show, there is a full local schedule in the Boston area, including their annual Concert In The Park. Looking forward to that very much. Now once we get past the expected 14” of snow forecasted for tonight, we can restart spring Monday when the temps hit 60 degrees. C’mon winter, be done!
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15 minutes ago, olddrummer34 said:
I'm sure this post didn't need to be approved, because it is a harmless April fools joke. Why do you assume everyone knows about one persons alleged abuse? They aren't reviving sheherexade, it is a post. Sounds like they should run everything by DCP to see if anyone is upset by it.
I have to believe this day in age with several corps having had financial management issues, abuse allegations (more than one persons alleged abuse) and a number of safety and care of membership issues, that any PR or media team at any org, would have a release of ANY communication, be reviewed and signed off by leadership, before publication. No org in their right minds would allow their social media team or PR team carte blanche on communications. Or they shouldn’t. And if they do, then they risk the backlash that may be generated; deservedly.
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8 hours ago, Mello Dude said:
So, you need to give personal info to a 3rd party to get the information? Hard pass.
Although I haven’t gone to the link to know for certain, and I’m guessing you hadn’t yet looked at it either, I would hazard to guess the info they want is is b limited to the section you are interested in and maybe your age and geo location. No one would be asking for sensitive personal information for someone trying to learn what spots are open. Seeing what is still open and seeing a link for audition info, you’ll get a good idea of needs and opportunity.
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On 3/29/2024 at 7:35 AM, Mello Dude said:
It would be more helpful for potential members if they broke down where the openings are.
Kids are so good at internet searches, I’m sure openings could be found with little trouble by going to particular corps sites, and inquiring directly. Plus they could see what the summer may look like schedule wise, as well as any other questions they may have.
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The number of “openings” is also for how many corps? 12? 15? 25? Do the numbers include World and Open classes? On a per corps basis, the numbers don’t seem exceptionally high. And for brass, that’s usually the highest member counts anyway.
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2 hours ago, HockeyDad said:
Interesting reading. At this point, however, does the outcome have any effect on the future of the Cadets? They seem to be in a place right now whereby a comeback seems highly unlikely, no matter what happens with the lawsuit. Unfortunately.
I believe there is no future for the Cadets. Saying “a comeback seems unlikely”, infers a comeback is possible. It has been mentioned and confirmed that no assets remain. None. A comeback is not possible. There is no cash left and if there were, it’s going to lawyers. Either theirs or the plaintiffs. So we all should move on from that glimmer of hope, because there is no future for the Cadets. Exceptionally, painfully sad. So preventable.
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11 hours ago, Vuitton said:
It's the new normal in DCI. More corps are going to start taking a year off. I said it was just the beginning wtih Vanguard and Cadets have proven me right. The corps are dumb - they shouldn't be running DCI and setting policy, and the greedy and selfish top corps only care about themselves and not the health of the activity as whole. They are doing the whole activity in with their win at all costs mentality. I can still love them, but none of them are going to be around in 20 years.
Some corps may take a year off but that still is not a certainty. But in Cadets case, they aren’t taking a year off to reset. They are taking forever off. Insurmountable challenges because of a variety of past bad behaviors and poor planning for sustainability has caught up with them. SCV has a different set of issues that they may be resolving but still they are at risk to a degree. However, they are planning on a return.
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1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said:
Vuitton is not Poppycock. I know who he is. He’s not on here and he’s not trying to get back on. He thinks I’m crazy for still posting here.
Is he hanging out with Brasso?
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40 minutes ago, craiga said:
No. Not sure why.
Might have been getting a solid number of volunteers each game and game schedule played a part. There was a minimum requirement of people needed to be in the concession stand. The games could be at 1pm, 4pm or 7pm and you had to be in the stand 3 hours before game time and wound be there an hour after the game . Then be stuck in traffic. Made for a long hard day. Volunteers are the lifeblood of corps and corps support functions. Things need to be easy for most volunteers to devote a lot of time on a regular basis.
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3 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
I’ve heard nothing about the uniforms being sold to MBBB.
The last thing I had read/heard was the uniforms were not being sold. That would make it about the only asset that remains.
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2 hours ago, Slingerland said:
They won't settle. The complainant wants a trial, and Cadets have offered her everything they have to settle. If the complainant is still looking for a jury trial, it'll be up to the folks to find that the preponderance of evidence supports her claim.
If I was a betting person, I'd actually put the odds in Cadets favor. But I'm not a betting person.If what you say is true (not challenging the veracity of your statement) and the complainant won’t settle and wants to take it to trial, what would the expected outcome be for her? I’m wondering what does she want out of a trial win, if there is nothing left monetarily? If the Cadets org has nothing, will individuals named, be responsible for whatever award the court decides?
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On 2/2/2024 at 8:58 AM, MikeRapp said:
A Steely Dan show…dang. It would be the ultimate cool groove.
Boston included Steely Dan’s “Kid Charlemagne” in their repertoire (a few times) years ago. At no time did they play it though.
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13 hours ago, Sh0uldN0t said:
I know. It was one thing when there were a hundred corps. But now? Drum corps people killing drum corps. Sheesh.
However, some will have you believe it’s uniforms.
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4 hours ago, theonlyfizzle said:
I know i am late, this has gone few days ago, BUT I am hoping, praying and begging for that miracle for the cadets to survive this again somehow.
I don’t believe there is any coming back for Cadets. No money now, no money coming, only money going for debts and huge legal bills. Then the legal issues themselves on top of the cost of them. All their assets are gone. They would be starting from scratch. Less than scratch actually. They need money and support. Lots of it. And the cavelry is not coming I’m afraid.
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Blue Devils 2024 right before the storm
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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I’m with you on this Chief. And there are BD staffers who’ve been with them since the early to mid 80’s. I would guess they have had successors in place for quite a while now and I wouldn’t be surprised if those successors have THEIR successors waiting in the wings. Brandon could be one of those folks. One thing BD does and has been able to do, more than other orgs., is have long range plans in place. That contributes to their never ending success. To others dismay.