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11 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:
I love "Conquest", but isn't it from the 1947 movie Captain of Castile? Our band (USC) plays it after each win.
Correction; USC plays it after Every. Single. Positive. Play! Every one!
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7 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:
Good article.
It makes no sense to me that an accomplished Stanford professor/director would take the CEO position of an organization that is about to fail. Everything he is quoted as saying is plausible ("bad choices & bad luck" ) and until proven otherwise I believe him.
Belief in the CEO is one thing, but with his statement that the docs were being submitted within days, and reaffirmed they’d be submitted; has he been mislead since it appears the submissions have not happened? If that’s true, then the situation is even more disturbing. What is possibly preventing or inhibiting the doc submissions for compliance? The perception is that the docs can’t be delivered that show compliance. The future of the SCV org remains in jeopardy. They have had a lot of time to correct it.
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57 minutes ago, Barneveld said:
1999
Brass and percussion arrangers were JD Shaw, Al Murray, Darrell McKee and Dave Carbone
Were they there in 2000 for Red?
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10 minutes ago, PRPhan4ever said:
That's interesting I believe I had heard JD shaw talk about work w/Boston when I was touring with them (PR) in 2008 during a conversation at lunch one day (I was aiding in sponsoring a hornline member ) but I never knew what year or years ......anybody know? From 2012 to present I've been on the BAC side of the volunteer spectrum
Could be wrong, but I don’t recall JD Shaw being with BAC in any capacity at least through 88. Maybe later? 90’s?
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Just now, LabMaster said:
George Garzonne 1975
Mark Beliveau 79-82
Eric Rosen 76-78
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4 hours ago, Boss Anova said:
Here is a few names of brass arrangers over the years at the Crusaders ( some others already mentioned....
I think we would have to start with the lergendary brass arranger that was there and wrote the music for BAC in the decade of the 1960's where they first became a national powerhouse ( 1st- 3rd ) among several hundred Drum Corps in the country at the time....... Ed Denon. He was a public school music teacher that wrote " Conquest " first for the Corps, among other early signature songs they are known for in the their earlier years. Ed Denon was there for approx 10- 12 years, and later wrote brass for the Crusaders Srs. ( 1990's )
Jimmy Centorino wrote songs for Boston in 72'- 75.
Eric Rosen.... 1980's
Robert Smith.... 1980's
Tom Lizotte..... 1980's
Michael Klesch... mid 1990's
Jay Kennedy.... early 2000's to 2011.
Ryan George..... 2012 to current.
I'm sure I left someone out... but these are a few notables off the top of my head at the moment anyway.
George Garzonne 1975
Mark Beliveau 79-82
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Just now, Terri Schehr said:
The old place was much worse. People would have their horns down and you’d still hear them playing.
Now it can be done electronically and be innovative.
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2 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
don't tease me with no echo
What what what what wha wha wh wh w w
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7 hours ago, Tim K said:
First, I think finals at Gillette if LOS is unavailable is more of a wish for those of us from Boston than a reality, but for the WC corps, the trip from Allentown to Boston is approximately 300 miles, Allentown to Indy is approximately 650 miles. Since most kids fly home, that would save on bus transportation. You would also have the advantage of two airports, Logan in Boston and T.F. Green in Warwick (located here the old Rocky Point where you could have a holiday 🙂). Getting the fleets back could cost more. It could be more expensive for fans. Though there are some hotels in the area, for most Gillette would mean pricier hotels not located near the stadium which would mean renting a car.
There’s train service for football and soccer. Could be for this. Lots of local hotels and a Cape vacation too!
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54 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:
Summary of this post: I, I, I, I, I, I.
Dude, work on keeping that ego in check. You don’t help your cause.I’m not agreeing it’s an ego or “cause” thing with him, as much as it is information he has put forth, that no one else would have. Had he not provided the detail and research, no one on here would have been aware of the depth of the issues and apparent illegalities that have been ongoing and unresolved for the past few years. SCV is rife with noncompliance with State of Cali requirements and follows it all up with a lack of openness and honesty when questioned. A sad state of affairs.
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51 minutes ago, fighterkit said:
I had heard that a similar turn out happened in 22. Lots and lots of alum reached out to Chris and the corps asking if he could find a ticket for them to get there.
In 99 I bought my ticket off a guy on a bicycle outside the stadium just before the show started.
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On 12/27/2023 at 4:30 PM, Jeff Ream said:
it was. but 99...that first time...finally.....on Saturday night. wow
For many alums who made a last minute decision to go to Madison for that night, it was tremendous. So hard to describe properly. The culmination of years of ups and downs and other assorted challenges in the hopes that it would one day see the corps in finals. It was a very special night. Hoping for an equally special night in 2024. Well maybe a bit more special!
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On 12/13/2023 at 8:21 PM, Phantombari1 said:
I think everyone knows that things like this have been going on since the beginning of DCI. This is just one of many problems that exist in drum corp behavior and not only with staff. I've seen some appalling things happen on tour that were dehumanizing (IMO), degrading, and downright evil in my eyes.
What I find interesting is how DCI protects their own...There has been more than one case of a corps on the verge of collapse or impacted by something major, that suddenly got a bump in scores before (SH)it hit the fan. I don't think it's a coincidence.
We’d be curious to learn about specific examples of this. Have you any? Meaning coincidental score bumps.
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1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
I suppose a ‘Fiddler on the Roof’ show is a bit of a long shot
With a Fiddler show, they could play “If I Were A Rich Man”.
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Just now, LabMaster said:
And there is the Sader beep for those who don’t know.
The intro phrases.
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2 hours ago, TOC said:
And there is the Sader beep for those who don’t know.
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15 minutes ago, Old Guy said:
Honest question:
If you take out the 4-5 most proeminent leader of the board (because they’ve been there more than 6 years), would the board still function as well as now? How this would affect the fonctionning of the org?
There wouldn’t be any term limit removal. BOD members are invited to join and can decline or join and can stay until they no longer wish to. Most BoD members are peers, and no one, or few are “pre-eminent” per se’. The BoD structure has been in place for years now and functions well and is built for the long term. There are many alumni and supporters who have helped the corps throughout the years who are willing to do what is needed to keep it running as the history of survival shows. Maybe corps with smaller boards need to look inward to restructure themselves by seriously considering what their long term plans should be. BoD’s must be structured to ensure all members are committed to be aware of their purpose, their mission and be watchdogs of each others performance and contributions as a BoD member. A mix of skills, personalities, selflessness, a love of their corps AND drum corps is critical to success. Check your ego at the door. Just my opinion. Having a history of surviving has helped too.
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49 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
40+ on the board sounds cumbersome & is perhaps too many (although it apparently works for Boston); and 8 on the board doesn’t seem like enough. There is a lot of room in between.
Well it has been working very well for quite a while now. I liken it to an aircraft carrier crew. Many hands creates focused execution. No one is overburdened. Smaller teams can work on specific tasks. There is a leadership that manages the BOD well and all folks contribute. Members change often enough to keep ideas and energy fresh. And best of all, they fully support the staff.
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12 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
last i saw i think it was 8?
I’m not sure there are 50 board members but there definitely more than 40. If you go to Bostons website you can open the BOD table and see all the names and available bios. It shows a wide range of experience and expertise in many areas that enable contributions of skill and expertise to cover many aspects of running the corps. This stems from lessons learned over the years as well as understanding what was and is needed for sustainable success. A large BOD seems necessary so no small group or a single person wields enough power to mismanage an org. Too much visibility. And for BAC, no one is afraid to challenge anything that jeopardizes the org., that has taken so long to get where they are. Like a metaphorical cutting ranks.
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1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:
not owning means no maintenance costs. insurance is probably less too.
Not necessarily no maintenance costs. Leases I work with have my company “owning” all maintenance except roof and infrastructure. I have HVAC, doors, windows, plumbing, fire protection, lighting etc., etc. still have liability insurance too.
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17 minutes ago, craiga said:
I could write volumes, but I won't.
1983 (I was there as a 23 yr old vis tech)
51 total members but still in "World Class"
One bus plus a Ford van on tour
All volunteer alumni staff
Slept on the front lawn of the Allentown Water District the night before the big show
Had to go on first every show as "The Boston Drum & Bugle Corps"
Beat dozens of corps more than twice our size, and most of those folded in the following years
MANY of Inspire's current BOD members marched in this corps.
And yes, it is because of this kind of history that Boston alums are as engaged as they are to this day.
And Boston made “Associate Member” (when they had that designation) in DCI. The smallest corps to ever do that. 51 members and only a handful of shows. And an amazing performance at the Orange Bowl, considering the warm up street action minutes before performing.
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4 hours ago, totaleefree said:
I am not aware of Cadets folding, they still have a functioning board and I have not heard that they have sold all their assets. I may have missed some announcements but I don't think they have folded
They’ve sold assets and returned leased equipment. There is nothing left. They have a few hundred thousand dollars owed in outstanding bills and increasing legal debt. Not to mention what will be needed to settle legal outcomes. There are no revenue sources. The proverbial handwriting is on the wall.
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3 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
honestly i think it's some of both given the sudden departure of the ops manager and the CEO
I believe you’re right. It wasn’t one thing like lots of bills and no revenue. The lawsuit piece was sitting in the background, building. Then as the onion began getting peeled back, the full extent of liabilities was exposed. It came about in a hurry and Cadets did get out in front of it and took appropriate steps and communicated it as best they could. SCV hasn’t really stepped up completely, and communicated fully, clearly and honestly. They confoundingly continue to stumble along with issues that should be fixable. What appears to be intentional avoidance of resolution does lead to conclusions of something more than lack of proper documentation and state compliance issues.
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2 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
Is that your ageout? That was mine, too, although I didn’t march it.
No. I was on staff then. Age out was earlier.
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Santa Clara Vanguard 2024
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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I’m not sure how from an HR standpoint, if it even applies; to make moves to change personnel. In my positions in corporations, a way to eliminate people was to declare their positions was “being eliminated”. Their role or job was no longer necessary. It also meant that position could not be resurrected. It had to be creatively brought back. It just couldn’t be exactly like it was and could not be too similar. If a “Director” was eliminated, a “Senior Manager” could be fill the old role. So maybe roles could be eliminated and replaced differently, to get a change of personnel. I don’t know how that might work obviously, just kind of spitballing here.