ContraFart
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3 minutes ago, Ashontheinternet said:
form to form drill and good visual credit are not mutually exclusive. bd is astoundingly clean in the feet technique and choreo, and the amount of complex demand that playing loud and tonefully while performing complex dance techniques is not something to sleep on. not only that but look at the last minute or so. actual visual madness.
How can you be clean in feet technique when you don't use your feet? Were the Bluecoats not clean in their choreo? Did they not use complex dance techniques?
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Again meh. I had to watch on high cam because Flo was being difficult. I noticed that less than 10% of the show is form to form drill. Maybe that is why I am mystified they get so much visual credit. However the guard is fire and a Zengali is well deserved.
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28 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
Yes. Enjoy finals
I hope you know I respect the bleep out of you, but I am never going to stop pushing you on this subject.
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Just now, CAtenhut said:
You don't understand how much DCP appreciates your real-time reviews, but I am going to ask you to put your phone down for these last 4 performances and enjoy them to their fullest...
And then quickly type a full review right after each show. 😂
@kevingamin is an asset to the DCP community
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Mandarins by far have my favorite show of the year. My baby won't be here for another 2 months, but they could still have her.
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It's time for a cocktail
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1 minute ago, BlueStainGlass said:
copyright law changes and bam here come the DVDs from 2020 on
If I ever run for Congress, that would be a bill I would fight for
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Just now, TheOneWhoKnows said:
Facts. But I guess without show releases anymore I guess he isn’t needed sadly. I mean we always think he’s needed but
He still produces Indy week and I bet the shows are archived even if they are not sold to the public
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This might be FLO mic placement but the electric bass at the end of Colts has been m over balanced all weekend
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9 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Yeah those were clearly designed for the LOS environment. There were places on the tour they didn't quite pop as much but here...golly they looked amazing.
I feel the same way about the Colts uniforms, the monochrome red makes more sense under the lights in Indy
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There were a few technical difficulties with that Troopers show, but seeing that old flag at the end with the classic uniform gives me goosebumps
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Blue Stars seemed loose and that they had a lot of fun. Also that green looks so lush in LOS.
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1 hour ago, Rylan said:
Oh, there’s definitely already a fart doing some crying.
It's nice living rent free in your head.
Why are BD people so butthurt?
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21 minutes ago, mboogey73 said:
If audience reaction was part of the criteria Scouts, PR and Troopers would have a ton of championships.
You say that as if it's a bad thing
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9 minutes ago, Vuitton said:
Not entirely. Visual and GE have execution components. You aren't going to win visual if you can't execute and you aren't going to be effective if you can't execute.
I agree with you on visual, but GE is a whole other ball game.
I'm very much not a fan of BDs visual philosophy, and I would gather that is 90% of the reason I disagree with the outcomes.
BDs guard is fire though, and I think they very much deserve the Zingali
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2 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
What’s the point? You can send Vanderbilt’s coaches to watch every single Alabama practice. Write down every play. Won’t matter. Alabama is filled with 5 star recruits who are essentially NFL players on a college campus.
Crown has more 5 star brass players than BD. Several corps have just as many 5 star percussion players and guard members as BD. That argument just doesn't hold up
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2 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
More than one way to answer that, but here’s one:
BD consistently marches one of the oldest, most experienced and certainly most accomplished corps in DCI. Every single year. On Day 1 they are so far ahead of 90% of the rest of Dci that they can be cleaning their show from week three on. The tiny tiny details, at scale, just match up show after show.
Because of how dci scores shows and seasons, their head start means they set the bar. And that is almost impossible to beat. The shows that beat them ran the table end to end. It’s just the nature of the activity.
BD is clean from day 1. By the time you get to finals they are sleeping in hotels and haven’t played a show in a week. It is a formula that works over and over again.
I hate takes like this because it infers that no other corps has any skills whatsoever. I saw the first shows of the rest of the top 4 and they were clean. They were well designed. These corps have performers on the same level as BD. I would bet money that they have a similar average age and average marching experience.
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4 minutes ago, saxfreq1128 said:
and first in literally everything else… hence first place!
Drum corps is brass drums and guard. Pretty much everything else is design.
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31 minutes ago, Vuitton said:
I think last night's recap speaks for itself.
Yes they say that BD is 4th in brass and percussion
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19 minutes ago, jsd said:
Can we just enjoy the fact that we get to witness Finals, and that we have had the opportunity to enjoy what has been an amazing season from so many corps?
It was not long ago that the world was on lockdown. Here we are, basking in the brilliance that is the corps, designers, and most importantly, the members.
We all have our favorites. That's ok. Let's just enjoy tonight, scores and placements be ######...
Well since global warming is eventually going to make this activity impossible, maybe you are right
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Just now, jsd said:
Those are two entirely different questions, with two entirely different answers.
How would you suggest that DCI make the competitive balance any "fairer" than it is right now?
It's a great question I do not have an answer to.
The only thing I can think of is tinker with the balance of field performance vs design. Right now 7 out of 11 judges adjudicate effect or analysis. Maybe we ask how to balance that better.
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7 minutes ago, Sully said:
Recruiting trumps all scoring systems. The only thing that really matters is how much your show appeals to kids who are in a position to join the corps. Many of them want to take home hardware, yes, but show design and execution attract talent. BD has both in spades. If you want to knock them off the throne, do recruiting better than they do for 5-10 years.
I disagree with your premise. Especially in brass and drums (in which BD is 4th) The talent an execution of the top 4 corps are relatively the same. Recruiting is not the issue here.
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6 minutes ago, saxfreq1128 said:
contrafart you are full of surprises
I could tell you about my trip hop phase. Or that I can play and sing a few Ben Folds songs. I am all over the place man.
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11 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
There are now a handful of orgs that can compete with BD every year—though sadly SCV was one of them until this season. Still, the resources at the hands of those who run the BD org are vast, diverse and somewhat unique. Regardless of how good Bluecoats, Crown and Boston are, BD has two decades of winning behind them. They can sign almost anyone auditioner they want to sign. This makes it possible to field the most demanding technical shows without dot charts.
It’s simply not a fair fight. It’s not BDs fault, for sure. But let’s be honest and say nine times out of ten BD is going to win because they are literally playing with a stacked deck.
The question is how do we unstack that deck in the name of competitive parity? It seems to be an impossible task since you can't tell people where to spend their money, and DCI does not have the same tools that sports leagues have to create parity.
DCI is unique as a competitive organization. Do they have a responsibility to create the fairest competitive environment, or do they have the responsibility to create the best member experience?
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2023 DCI WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINALS
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Ok I'm crying now.