Terri Schehr
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53 minutes ago, Mello Dude said:
I find it fascinating that corps of the past were WAY WAY WAY more inclusive and diverse.
I’ll add another WAY here because it’s true.
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1 hour ago, JimF-LowBari said:
My dad was in the army shortly after it was integrated. His training group (Army Corps of Engineers) was formerly all Black so he was pretty “outnumbered”. 😆 They worked together so color meant squat. That was how I was raised.
I moved to west shore of the river and some called it the “white shore” for sarcasm. After I moved found some of my neighbors were proud of that name. 🤮 Best part was being told “you know what kind of people live over there”. I said “yeah.. me.. my family.. my friends”. 🤬
Oh boy. 🤦♀️
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16 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
How the hades is diversity political? Does that mean I’m being political for thinking it’s nice when my street finally had a minority on it. (And a nice lady)
Guess I’m wrong for seeing it as a human being issue.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a lots of Hispanics. My best friend’s names were Salinas, Valdez, and Saenz. We didn’t think a thing about it. All the Dads were blue collar guys. We were poor but we didn’t know it because we were all were in the same boat. Same where I lived in Aurora. Where I live now is very antiseptic, if you know what I mean. I’m looking forward to being in Cincinnati in a real neighborhood for the summer. .
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1 minute ago, Mello Dude said:
Interesting. IMHO making drum corps affordable would make a lot of this moot. I'm happy they have a 25k scholarship fund. At current rates that what 4 people or so? I'm glad they did this report, I just wish that the reality would be addressed. It's a money and affordability issue for the most part. I mean it's not only being able to afford corps but some kids need to work during the summer to have money for more important things like school and living. Unless corps (and DCI as a whole) start getting real about making drum corps "attainable" for more people it's not going to be anything more than kids that were already going to do well in life doing even better. Perhaps, a less quality product would be preferable if it improved the lives of more people that actually NEED something like drum corps? I wish I had all the answers but if you can't see the forest through the trees your DEI means nothing if people can't really benefit from it.
I keep saying that. It really wears on my mind. I had people tell me when I was in RA that Sie Lurye and Mr. Warren(I’m sure you heard the same stories I did) put them on the straight and narrow and if not for them and drum corps, they’d have ended up in jail. Even the guys I marched with in Norwood told me they would probably have ended up in bad situations. Drum corps was for young people who couldn’t afford to purchase a band instrument or participate in school band. Or they didn’t have a band program at school. It was noble work. It didn’t help when DCM was gone and corps like Joliet Kingsmen were left with no performance opportunities and were gone. I loved those kids.
I’m not suggesting that the activity should go back to that because that’s not going to happen. But giving these young people a hand up is also noble work and I think that’s what Bloo is trying to do. I hope they succeed.
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36 minutes ago, LabMaster said:
Is he hanging out with Brasso?
I’ll see Brasso and Mrs. Brasso Saturday in Naples. St Patty’s day parade.
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11 minutes ago, Vuitton said:
I really don't care where they place. Last year's show, to me, was their best since 2015. For me, it was dud after dud from 2016 to 2022 (especially 2022), so I am happy with 2023. That show is the Crown I fell in love with back in 2006!
I don’t care where anyone places anymore. I just go and enjoy myself. I thought they were terrific last year. I loved Liebestod.
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Vuitton is not Poppycock. I know who he is. He’s not on here and he’s not trying to get back on. He thinks I’m crazy for still posting here.
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Nevermind. They’re gone. Tsk tsk.
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They were a hair’s breadth from second place last year. It’s tough for anyone to beat the leviathan lately. It’s been eight years this season, although we did have the two Covid seasons in there. We’ll say six competitive seasons.
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I didn’t read it but if it’s of benefit to the Canton area young people, more power to them. The underserved communities have been ignored for decades in the marching arts. A step back from when I marched, IMO.
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Nevermind. Already covered.
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1 minute ago, totaleefree said:
A few months back I was able to look at a lot of the case papers online, maybe the paywall wasn't working correctly. What i remember reading was that 2 times the plaintiff asked to go to settlement conference. Then when the defense wanted to depose the plaintiff, they (plaintiff )did not show up The plaintiff claimed she was too ill to travel the NJ for the deposition. The defense said they would go to I think it was Mass where the plaintiff lived for the deposition.
The vibe that I got was that the plaintiff was saying settle with me now or all this stuff will come out in court, then they even added a line about George Hopkins. I think maybe Cadets have already been dragged through the mud enough so it wouldn't really be any great bombshell exposed, or Cadets didn't have money to settle so they surprised the suing attorneys by letting go to trial.
The attorney taking the case makes his living suing truck companies after accidents, Drum Corps might have trucks, but they are very different from large commercial trucking firms.
I am not a legal expert and I cannot access that info now, and this is based on what I remember reading, and what stuck out to me.
I know nothing about anything that went on at Garfield parties in the 80's .
I do. Hair raising. But they weren’t the only ones, by no means.
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8 hours ago, spacewill said:
Man, on that one. I used to officiate flag, peewee, junior high, and some high school football. The day I knew I needed to quit was when I was officiating a 11-12 year old tackle football game. This kid kept going down injured and then would come back in 2 plays later. We as officials had no power to stop the kid from coming back in but I asked a coach what's going on. The coach said the kid basically had no cartilage left in his knee but his dad is forcing him to play and putting pressure on the coaches to play him (apparently he was high enough in the organization to get away with it). That, that day was the day I told my wife I was basically done and quit doing peewee immediately and then all officiating a year later. To this day I don't regret the decision. Some parents just ruin it for everyone.
Jim had parents who wanted him to put their concussed kids back out there. WTH.
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9 hours ago, Chief Guns said:
One of my fellow Chiefs I was stationed with in San Diego was a volunteer coach for Pop Warner football.
One day he asked me if I wanted to volunteer to coach. I told him no I couldn't handle it and would end up choke slamming someone thru the bleachers. He laughs and says "Bro the kids aren't that bad".........my response.........."I wasn't talking about the kids, I was talking about the parents".
Jim coached the Pop Warner football base team in Beaufort SC when he was stationed there. He had some butterbar try to pull rank on him to give his son leverage on the team. He was told by Jim there is no rank out here on this field. Take your grievances up the ladder and see where that gets you. End of story.
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2 hours ago, Chief Guns said:
Brother you should see the parents in Little League Football.
Ten year olds playing on the field, with parents acting like nine year olds in the stands.
And Lord help you if you have to deal with the parents who think their kid is the next Joe Montana, and can't understand why their son isn't above reproach, and why he isn't getting superstar treatment from the coaches.
No lies detected. That’s why Jim quit coaching football. The parents were terrible.
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1 hour ago, BigW said:
"The Worst Band Parents Ever"
Jeff was really young when a lot of this happened so I'm not sure how much he knows about.
The HS no longer exists. It was merged into another school in Central Pennsylvania. in the late 70's it was arguably the finest small marching band in the country (under 50-60 musicians) with a really great Director- very kind, developed talent from his students. Never a problem then that anyone heard of. His son was also fantastic, ended up in the Crossmen HoF.
He gets a job offer @1980 for a school that has a good program with three times the kids and offers him twice what he's currently paid. He leaves and turns that program into a Wrecking Ball in Pennsylvania for the next 15 or so years.
That's when things go bad. They hire an individual right out of college, my guess was to save money. They weren't bad, they weren't a bad person, they weren't untalented but who could really replace this guy right out of college? The band came down to earth and other bands started to beat them. After about two years the Parents rioted and had the District get rid of them before they got tenure.
They then managed to hire an experienced guy, who was also a really good and decent fellow, who already had led a pretty successful program. He manages to dig them out of the hole but after about two years, he ends up with stress related illnesses and runs to another program where he takes that program and makes it flourish. The word on the street was the parents drove him to near insanity. He was a lot happier when he got out of there. You could see the relief on his face.
They then managed to find someone who had things figured out. They brought in a very good design team and their shows were very airtight and complimentary. The total packages were fantastic, and that's what kept them above everyone. Here's where things unravel.
Sometime in the late 80's, the Circuit Championship had to be held indoors at Carlisle HS. Wind gusts in excess of 50 MPH, ice all over everything, and wind chill factors well below Zero. Their parents lose their minds. Standstill contest, no drill, they know that they're losing their major asset of having a total show. I'm working the floor entrance. They lose to someone who better handled the situation. Kids from this band are crying, The Band Parents are flipping out and outraged making all sorts of comments that this show should have been held outside. I glared at them and said, "Your children aren't gladiators." The loudest mouthed parent is obviously thinking of starting something, and I was ready to slug it out.
This guy is older. Word on the street a lot of those Boosters hadn't had children in that band for years and pretty much ran the show anyway. The Circuit commissioner gets an "AxxHxxe Certificate" in the mail with no return address. It wasn't hard to figure out the likely culprits. I didn't hear any other complaints from the other competitors.
This director leaves. Word on the street was they had enough of the Parents, especially after their obnoxious behavior in public, and the fit the kids had. The job comes open again. I need a job. Dad encourages me. I tell him what's going on. He helps me with a cover letter to the HS Principal stating basically that "The word on the street is that your Band Parents are out of control, and that they interfere with the director's ability to direct the program as they see fit to direct the program as professional educators. As the principal, you'd be my boss. If the Parents get out of line, will you have my back and get these parents under control?"
Needless to say, I didn't get an interview. They find a decent guy but by now the program's a wreck and he's pulling every stunt in the book like having suspended cymbals "WOOOSH!" ing at the end of nearly very phrase to try and mask that they can't end a phrase together. They're down to 16 musicians (including percussion) trying to play 8 note chords. The same old big-mouthed clown who hadn't had a kid in the band for years and nearly beat on me over the gladiator comment nearly attacked me for pointing these things out quietly to someone within his earshot once.
The whole mess died when they merged with their next-door rivals. Because of the hatred that both schools had for each other, and the parents had for each other, all their sports programs and extracurricular activities crapped out and haven't recovered 35 years later.
So, that's the story of the Worst Band Parents Ever. Obsessed with winning over education taking place and wanting to send their kids on an icy field in 40+mph wind gusts and sub-zero Wind chill. And I frankly don't feel bad for them. I do feel bad for a generation of kids that need an activity like this to get them out of the depressed little town they live in and deserve better.
Good grief.
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15 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
nothing beat a YEA volunteer when i got to a YEA run show and had the exact same seat info on my ticket as 3 other people and they informed me "well you got here after them, so i have openings on the 20".
and i informed them to call george so he could refund me out of his pocket now.
That happened to me in Williamsport the first year of DCA there.
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2 hours ago, OldSnareDrummer said:
I was the same. When I was a 13 y/o rookie, I'd never owned a classical or jazz album. By the time I was 18, I must have had 100 of them.
I see Tower of Power mentioned a couple of times here. 👍
I was surprised at how popular they are here. They’d always sell out in the Chicago area when I’d go but they did in Ocala, too. Must be the The Villages people 😂
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19 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
never mind
Granddaughter says it is Let It Go, not Let Go
If Bluecoats played Let it go, I’d have to fake my own death.
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1 hour ago, Chief Guns said:
You are not lying about the band moms out here in SoCal. Especially the three-way rivalry between the SoCal powerhouses Vista Murrieta, Chino Hills, and Ayala. There were times where I thought the three should just have a Triple Threat Match at WWE SummerSlam lol.
But here is a hilarious story about some band moms I encountered.
Back in October 2019, my son was in his sophomore year with the Vista Murrieta band, and they were hosting a competition, Of course Chino Hills and Ayala were there for the big showdown.
Anyhow, during the intermission between 3A and 4A, there were some band moms from another 5A competing band sitting in front of me. Not going to lie, they were giving off the "Entitled Karen Vibe". So eventually their discussion veered toward drum corps, and one of the mom's (we'll call her son Johnny) says "OMG! Johnny dragged me to one of those drum corps shows at the Rose Bowl a few months ago, and honestly I wasn't impressed with any of those corps. I mean our kids high school band COULD TOTALLY COMPETE AND BEAT ALL THOSE CORPS".
Keep in mind when she went to the Rose Bowl, she saw the eventual champion Ghostlight, Bronze Medalist Vox Eversio, and phenomenal shows like Wrong Side of the Tracks, Everglow, and subTerra from Cavies, PC, and Mandarins to name a few.
And to top it off, the other moms just chimed in and started agreeing with her (mob mentality) that their kids were totally world class level, and there was no difference between high school band and drum corps.
I couldn't help it and laughed out loud, they turned and looked at me, but I passed it off as I was laughing at something else as it would have been a no-win situation getting into it with them. Another guy near us looked at them, and just shook his head lol.
So naturally when their kids band came on the field, I was hype and ready to see a historic performance considering these kids could allegedly beat BD head-to-head.
Uh yea....................no. They ended up dead last in 5A and got waxed by the competition.
Another lesson in its ok to root and support your kids and think they are great, but on the flip side, learn to keep things in reality and know there are levels to this. Lol.
Sounds about right. You just have to grin and bear it. I once had a parent sitting behind me making fun of the corps my son was in. I wanted to turn around and say something so badly, but I didn’t.
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41 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
A bit of googling found this. 2024 Troopers could be a show that we are going to talk about for some years to follow:
They’ve found a great niche and it’s really working for them.
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14 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
You mean it’s not a state secret?
The graphic reminds me of when Django blew up Candieland and was walking out of the smoke and flames. 🔥 I love it.-
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12 minutes ago, An_drew said:
Alright, I guess I know how I'm spending my evening: listening to a TON of Son Lux. This is so hype.
I’m gonna have to watch that movie.
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2 minutes ago, PeterGibbons said:
My soph year in high school we finished (gasp the horror) 4th at MBA (aka BOA) Grand Nationals, winning two captions. I recall sitting on the bus waiting to leave the parking lot after finals when a volunteer came on the bus and chewed us all out for not doing better. Said something to the effect that we should be ashamed, and that we obviously didn't appreciate all the work the volunteers like this guy did for us that season. 😠
That’s completely out of bounds. Hence why I never joined the band boosters.
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Bluecoats 2023 Diversity & Socioeconomic Impact Report
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