waliman4444
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to get through the wet weekend I put on the video of the 93 cadets at finals....####, does drum corps get much better?..innovations aside, the purity of that performance still stands out after 25 years..if they can evoke that emotion again, I won't care what they score
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looking forward to seeing CADETS overcome adversity and become serious contenders by finals,,,would also love to see MANDARINS move into the top 12
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as long as the arrangements provide new perspectives not previously heard I don't mind...with the emphasis on visual design music is often chopped up such that it loses identifiability ,,,so two or more corps playing the same piece of music might go unnoticed by the non drum corps savvy
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just returned home from serious surgery...Feels like I walked into a bad dream...will always support the mm"s in spite of GH..stay strong ..peace!
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there's enough negative energy in the world that ideally drum corps replaces...here's hoping for a retooled , kick ###, 1982 like year , where the next chapter of the Cadets legacy again elevates the activity..peace
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my favorite year was 1966 because it was the first and only time that my corps(St. Roccos Cadets) managed to beat Garfield(twice)..That's probably why I'm a Cadets fan to this day!!!
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BD, Bluecoats and the last minute and a half of the Cadets show!!
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15 hours ago, Fran Haring said:
It's Philly. I'd put a Mummers band out front.
don't forget the mini bikes !!
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BD 1986...the bernard herrman , taxi driver year(2000?)..1976...metamorph and the burt bacharach program..I think 2011?
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1992 and any 90's shows featuring pat metheny music
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If anything, drum corps has provided an alternative to the current madness afloat...If shows are crafted with insight and integrity and performed well, as in any art form, meanness (which suggests intentional) has no relevance..only the perspective of the viewer whose pre-judged values might be in conflict would contribute to this "meanness" (imo)..I would not equate seriousness with meanness..a seriously concerned democracy is a good thing..it suggests that people care, just like we do when it comes to drum corps
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9 hours ago, Jim Schehr said:
Don’t know how the activity survived this long without singers. Blue Devils show would have been a lot better with a singer.
Now that's funny!!
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3 hours ago, HockeyDad said:
Maybe he's thinking retreads of shows from 30+ years ago aren't the way to the future after all.
let us PRAY!!
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20 minutes ago, JAZZER said:
Not rare at all. VERY common to find high school and college aged players that are amazingly talented in this idiom. Too many examples to list-do a video search for yourself. I've had dozens of All-State jazz musicians in my program and can attest to their proficiency.
thank you for your observation..It's encouraging to read that jazz is being promoted at these levels..As I said in another post, regarding improvisation , the chops are there in DCI to play this music..perhaps visual priorities make it more difficult to explore (Non big band) jazz.
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Miles davis said " If you want to play jazz, you have to know how to play the blues"Rare to find young folks who play the blues and arrangers who attempt, as someone said, to write arrangements that require a certain "feel" that the more classically trained students just don't have.imo
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10 hours ago, ftwdrummer said:
Disagree. Not sure what else you would call "Heat of the Day" for Bluecoats in 2016. Or the Goodwin charts BD did 2014-2016.
Also, XMen at least have jazz influences.
My favorite Crossmen shows were Pat Metheny oriented..Now is that jazz?I think you find in most jazz collections some Pat Metheny and Quincy Jones(BD)
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4 minutes ago, xandandl said:
Jazz, although a uniquely American contribution nourished by many cultural and ethnic roots, is an acquired taste for those not enamored by how sweet the trumpeter hits a skyscraper note or whether the front ensemble is going orgasmic with manic mallet maneuvers of supposedly improv jazz tempos. Ask any drill writer of the challenges jazz presents: one reason some corps got the rep of stand-n-play, others park-n-bark.
That being said, the multi-tempoed, mixed meter contributions of other musical genres have replaced jazz per se in DCI, if one can even find a pure jazz piece in contemporary literature. What works in a coffee house venue or a studio setting for smoke filled late night imbibers or the at home single cam video of the winter wearied music major doesn't always generate the effect audiences (and some judges) prefer for NFL stadiums. Retro stuff comes across as just that, retro in a competitive world of 3D nano-second visual programs and the like. Besides drum corps doesn't allow the woodwinds..yup no saxes or clarinets...jazz purists insist the composer wanted. Ask the logistics crew how many pianos they want to carry to and from the field. Rhythmic music and melody music are other matters more preferred than just the jazz style of composition and play.
jmo. you are certainly entitled to yours.
thanks for your always insightful observations..point well made!
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with the exception of BD and Bluecoats, it feels as though jazz is disappearing
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on this topic I must defer to my senior DCPers and those more intimately involved with the Cadets from a historic perspective...did I read that the focus of Mr. H was moving more toward C2 and US Bands and less of a focus on building a championship Cadets corps..and if so , why?
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On 3/8/2017 at 2:47 PM, KeithHall said:
Alabama....................Charioteers?
New York...................Purple Lancers, Squires, Patriots?
Florida.......................Suncoast, Magic, Wave?
Georgia.....................Spirit of Atlanta?
Pennsylvania............Crossmen, Royal Crusaders?
California..................Blue Devils, Santa Clara Vanguard or Anaheim Kingsmen?
Washington.............Cascade, Imperials, Marksmen, Black Watch
Oregon....................Argonauts
Illinois.....................Cavaliers, Phantom Regiment, Black Knights
Ohio.......................Bluecoats, Glassmen
Indiana...................Star, Maple City Cadets?
Wisconsin..............Madison Scouts, Kilties, Blue Star
Massachusetts.....27th Lancers, Boston Crusaders, North Star
on and on
for n.y. you must include St. Rocco's, perennial yankee circuit champs and St. Joe's Batavia
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sounds like a man readying his successor for the inevitable pressures of running a successful drum corps..the good with the bad!!
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watching the BOA in Texas..I now see why corps go there to recruit..those H.S. kids can play....and march!
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Dear Stu and Ghost , thank you for your restraint in not politicizing the current events you've referred to..I know it can be difficult to remain cool when emotions are high.. PEACE!
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9 minutes ago, Fran Haring said:
With what's been going on in the country recently, imagine a corps playing HIS version of the national anthem!!!
followed by jose feliciano's version, just in case the audience didn't understand jimmy's
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Cadets 2018
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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had forgotten how great those last 90 seconds were...KILLER marching !!