TheOneWhoKnows
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14 minutes ago, DWW11 said:
Tempus Blue will score higher than Felliniesque!
At times throughout the season I truly thought that's where we heading, but their brass just isn't as clean.
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The crowd willing Boston to victory. At least I know I'll be jumping up and screaming my ### off for them.
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1 hour ago, drumcorpsfever said:
I thought the same with Madison. However, results on the field have not changed - at least yet.
I too had high hopes for Madison when this happened. That they could be loud, proud, and pleasing the crowd. I don't get that from this year at all. Like I said, maybe it's a fluke and next year will be better.
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10 hours ago, Sasha1 said:
my own opinion, i would love to see cavaliers go co-ed
i always feel like the corps is somehow lacking
great performers for sure, but i think they would be off the charts co-ed
i do have a bias of course
Seeing this already play out with Madison, it shows that it entirely changes the organization. I had high hopes for Madison that becoming co-ed they would still be that powerhouse entertainer, and as of this year, they have lost the entire identity of Madison. I do not get the same entertainment from them as I used to. Maybe this is a fluke and next year things change. It's just my response to your opinion that you feel it would make Cavaliers a powerhouse when I feel that the only reality is that making them co-ed would indeed change the entire identity and would become something new. Not a version of what was.
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34 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
I find this pretty unbelievable, honestly. You’re telling me that judges can judge a show by tenths of a point from one night to the next, based on just their own intuition? I don’t buy it.I find this pretty unbelievable, honestly. You’re telling me that judges can judge a show by tenths of a point from one night to the next, based on just their own intuition? I don’t buy it.
Well first off those who judge are people who have taught and designed in the activity for years. Even after all of that, the training is quite rigorous to understand the philosophy of judging. These are people who are going to be able to point out things most average viewers miss.
And again, as I stated earlier, performers who are trained, skilled, and achieve at performance is what makes visual design readable. It’s very easy for a judge to point out where there is lack of training and breakdowns in readability of design.
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1 hour ago, MikeRapp said:
How do they judge accuracy if they don’t know what the drill actually is?
That’s the point of the performers. If they are skilled, trained, and perform well the staging/drill is readable.
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20 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
With judges.
Why would the judges need a copy of drill books?
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2 minutes ago, Tony Flores said:
They have 17 minutes to get on the field, perform, leave the field. They are supposed to get penalized of they go over their allotted time, however I dunt think they strictly enforce it anymore... Like they used to.
Agreed, it isn't as strictly enforced. And call me an ###, but I full heartedly believe it should be if they go over while we are waiting because of technical difficulties.
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Truthfully, I think DCI has deviated away from timing in the most part. I believe its more you have this amount time from the moment you cross the line to the moment you leave the field. Shows starting before the announcement of the corps are pre-shows and are not judged. If you watch the contest coordinator, he will give a signal once judging has begun.
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8 minutes ago, denmum said:
That is interesting-that they are required to go through the repertoires and synopsis of each show that they are judging. I wonder if they often comment on how far a corps has deviated from the original music ? I would guess that if they do, a majority of the time it would be a positive comment-that is part of the genius of some drum corps arrangers and show designers, IMO.
In judging you walk a very fine line of not saying a designer's choice is right or wrong. We have to look at it in a way of do the design choices enhance what you are trying to tell us. No corps plays a straight tune anymore, they all deviate from the original source material. Particularly in GE, the judge has to decide given the choice of music and the design choice of arrangements, staging, effects, etc., is it portraying what you're trying to tell us overall.
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No. They do get lists of original repertoire and synopsis of the show that they are required to go through before judging, especially GE. Other than that, everything is judged in the moment.
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This is what happens as corps want to play newer music and todays artists are greedy. They’ve found ways to nickle and dime money out of people without actually having to work. (Sorry, I still believe in artists having to go out and tour to make money)
That being said, there is simply no way DCI can keep up with licensure and fees. It’s way too time consuming and expensive.
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11 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
That's fair.
The tweets (I didn't post them) mention DCI saying that he was "causing issues" for member corps. The reporter who tweeted that has asked for clarification from DCI.
Of course the corps won't say anything. Some of them may have been the victims of these issues. While I think they should, there's a whole mess that goes along with that organizationally.
You do know how kingpins are often caught right? Because they were stupid enough to break the law in smaller ways than they're known for and then they're brought under control for those "minor" trespasses. If you can't get 'em on the big stuff, get 'em on the small stuff. You have to start somewhere.
Don't ban others. Just ban the jerk that raped minors.
I'm just saying I'm not going to speculate until I see some evidence on this letter or corps complaining of issues. Honestly, if the reporter is direct quoting DCI I would suggest it's a poorly worded response from them. From what I've seen first hand he visited his daughter and was in the lot for one drumline and then was in the stands. ***EDIT** I do see the tweet from the reporter stating the attorney confirmed the letter, but that they are letting it go.
I just truly don't think the recording and posting online is the way to go. It would open a rabbit hole in the activity that I don't truly think is a big deal. (Not saying he isn't a big deal just the overall act of recording a show and posting it since soooo many people do)
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5 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
So if the buck doesn't stop with DCI (I don't agree on this point), then it stops with the corps themselves? Just trying to pull us back from throwing our hands up.
I don't encourage harassment. To be clear, I said I'm glad I'm not going so I don't get myself in trouble because I very likely would. My own family said in response to my abuse, that it's a good thing they didn't know about it at the time because they would've gotten themselves in trouble by confronting my abusers. Same story. I know when to and how to control myself and I encourage others to do the same.
He's broken rules. He's filmed shows and posted them online, he's broken his probation, and he's attended an event after DCI explicitly told him he'd be trespassing if he did so. These are facts. If nothing else, he can be held accountable for these things, right?
Throwing our hands up is not an option. He is "causing issues" for current DCI member corps when he shows up according to their own words.
Permitting an abuser back into the community while gatekeeping people like me who have worked our whole careers to safeguard minors and young people from predators like GH is sick.
Respectfully, I'm not suggesting to throw the hands up. I'm pointing out the fine line that exists for DCI in control of the Corps. So maybe the solution is to go to the individual Corps.
Also, other than the tweets you have shared, I haven't seen the letter DCI sent. I can't know if it said for him to stop attending events. Also, I haven't seen any corps complain of him causing issues.
And lastly, we really want to throw our hands up at "filming show and posting them online"? Half the stands would be empty if we banned every person that has done that.
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I'm just going to leave this here:
Frankly, we are lucky enough to have any type of streaming at all. No, zip, zero, none, nothing, will ever compare to seeing a drum corps show live and honestly we need to stop expecting Flo to live up to that.
Secondly, the marching arts is kind of a niche activity. It is not as big as baseball, football, basketball, etc etc etc. You can't expect FloSports to put tons of money into marching arts streaming when it's a niche market and they're only going to get so much money out of it.
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I've been avoiding putting in my two cents because frankly I didn't want the stress of it all.
But, I've seen a lot of people talk about DCI not doing anything. I just want to bring back to light that DCI was founded because the Corps wanted to be in charge of themselves. Whether we agree or disagree with the current model, DCI has a fine line of control over the Corps. DCI is essentially solely in charge of the idea of a competition. Heck, even half the shows are run by the Corps themselves.
Basically, what I'm getting at is maybe DCI can ban people from a DCI sanctioned event, but events that aren't technically run by DCI, I don't believe they would have control over.
Whether one agrees or disagrees with the outcome, once probation is over, he becomes as free person again. As a collective, we can stop him from teaching in the activity, but I don't know if we can stop him from attending a paid ticketed event as a patron. And calling him out in public could lead to blowback and harassment issues. I'm sure there are a lot of you on here that would feel it's justified, but truly two wrongs don't make a right.
I mean absolutely no disrespect in this post towards anyone. I just think we need to be clear minded, logical, and understand realities.
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When Boston did their Quixotic show in 2016, they had those giant windmill things. At an early season show in Pittsburgh, my friends and I were following Boston in the parking lot and each windmill was numbered in the back of them and we happened to be behind windmill number 12. Later that season at the Buffalo, NY show people were shouting names and especially one performer who had been local to the Buffalo area. I felt out of the loop so I stood up and screamed "Go windmill number 12!" It got quite the laughter from the crowd and a few smiles from the pit members on the field.
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1 minute ago, Den8uml said:
Which one?
This one 😉
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This isn't the hypothetical offseason announcement I was thinking of...
More likely a Cavaliers conspiracy theory to become reality.
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10 hours ago, dureau said:
Since we are not allowed to post politically on here, I will just say conspiracies are nothing more than trying to cover up one’s own shortcomings.
Politics? What does this have to do with politics?
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29 minutes ago, Orwellian Wiress said:
Aren't the Cavaliers still an all-male drum corps? Maybe next year they'll be open to all genders and this is their subtle way of announcing it
I'm just saying..... all the clues point to it.....
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10 hours ago, Orwellian Wiress said:
Ok. I think I have something. Perhaps these could all be leading up to a big announcement for next year's show? To me it gives me the vibes of something that will completely revolutionize DCI, a la Crown 2022
Definitely has to do with next year, but not so much it being about the show as it is about the Cavaliers' themselves.
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But for real, no legitimate guesses as to what the conspiracy is?
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9 minutes ago, BlueStainGlass said:
Conspiracy? I bet they never had COVID and this was a way of rewriting alot of show that wasn't working for judges.
Not what I'm getting at but that's a theory.
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Doubtful. This is the reason they added the half tenths in scoring the year after BD scored the 99.65.