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GENESIS Drum and Bugle Corpsabout 2 months ago
Featuring the music of The Alchemist, Todd Terje, Cody Fry, Abel Selaocoe, and Christopher Tin, our 2024 production Signal will transport you into a world where a signal can transcend barriers and build connections that unite us all! Spots in all sections are still available - 2024 is a season you don't want to miss! Visit genesisdbc.org for more information! #dci #genesis #fenixfam #TMEA2024@pearladamspercussion G2 Performance
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On 12/9/2023 at 9:44 PM, arabica said:
This serves as the master list of 2024 show announcements and will be updated only after official announcements from corps' websites or social media. Credit to frontensemble.com for the corps' logos used below.
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The Academy
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Bluecoats
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Blue Devils
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Blue Knights
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Blue Stars
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Boston Crusaders
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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The Cadets
INACTIVE FOR 2024
Official Announcement [10/13/23]========================================
Carolina Crown
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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The Cavaliers
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Colts
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Crossmen
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Genesis
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Jersey Surf
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Madison Scouts
"Unholy"
- Unholy - Sam Smith, Kim Petras, Ilya, Omar Fedi, Blake Slatkin, Jimmy Napes, Cirkut
- White Rabbit - Grace Slick, Jefferson Airplane
- Asturias - Traditional
- Egyptian Danza - Al De Meola
- Momento Magico - Ulf Wakenius, Youn Sun Nah
- Sati - Salim Merchant, Suliaman Merchant, Berklee Indian Ensemble
Official Announcement [12/6/23]
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Mandarins
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Music City
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Pacific Crest
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Phantom Regiment
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Santa Clara Vanguard
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Seattle Cascades
"Sky Above"
- Across the Universe - The Beatles
- Out of the Blue - Nigel Westlake
- Kaval Sviri - Le Mystere des Bulgares
- Sky Above - Jacob Collier
Official Announcement [12/13/23]
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Spirit of Atlanta
Repertoire: TBD
Announcement: TBD
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Troopers
"Dance with the Devil"
- The Other Side - Tim Snyder, Paul Rennick, Sandi Renneck, Justin Shelton
- Hyperlink - Peter Graham
- House of the Rising Sun - Traditional
- Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood - Bennie Benjamin, Horace Ott, Sol Marcus
- Wait of the World - Stephen Melillo
Official Announcement [11/20/23] & Repertoire [2/17/24]
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54 minutes ago, DWW11 said:
Interesting tho-no matter how much the crowds in Allentown tried to downplay or appear blase about BD, no one ever left their seats when they took the field.
I’ve been going to Allentown since 1997 and I can say for sure Allentown recognizes and applaud’s excellence. It is probably the most drum corps savvy and seasoned crowd the Corps face all summer.
Unlike Bando Crowds, there are no give-me’s in Allentown. 😊-
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2 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
Agreed. But I don’t think we’ll see them do the ‘squat’, the ‘pelvic thrust’, the ‘side-squat’, the ‘ballerina’ hand posing, etc
😄. Well you never know . They do have an electric synth and mic brass soloists ha!
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4 hours ago, Vuitton said:
To me, modern drum corps is all about the visual. That's why I'm still involved in the activity. Since 2010, there are only three shows I listen to: Crown 2013 and 2015 and Vanguard 2018. When I want music I look elsewhere. It saddens me that really good music has left drum corps.
I'm not sure why one can't be true to the original composition and still have content. To me, playing actual music is more difficult than playing technical exercises in a Hooked On Classics type fashion for 10 minutes is.
That’s why I love the Marine Drum and bugle corps of the most. They are both highly technical and musical.
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On 2/28/2024 at 11:22 AM, frank4now said:
I started going to 2 or three shows a year beginning in 2006. I was busy working and raising kids during most of that time, so there are some years (shows) I really regret not seeing live. Here are a few off top of my head.
Phantom 2008
Carolina 2015
Carolina 2008
Actually the whole season 2008 I missed unfortunately
***correction I did attend one show in 2008. I saw Cavaliers, Bluecoats, Bluestars, and Crossmen that year somewhere in Cincinnati. I remember loving Cavies Samarai show.
Here is a couple right off the top of my head
1988 Blue Devils,
1989 or 1990 star of Indiana
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21 hours ago, Old Corps Guy said:
Glad too see Surf sticking with the fun and audience friendly shows.
That folks is how you do a show announcement 😊…. and I am not just saying that because Surf is from my home state lol. Looking very forward to this show
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On 1/4/2024 at 11:53 AM, MikeN said:
The last decade of Bluecoats programming has absolutely transformed drum corps shows in general. 2016 of course is the one everyone points to, but their development of electronics and soundscapes has also filtered down to just about everyone. I'm glad the last couple of years they finally tacked into the wind after sailing along with it for a while, as they're one the few corps that keeps me coming back to see something new!
Mike
In a very basic sense, bluecoats tend to stick with a similar type of show for two years, and then completely turn direction. There were definitely similarities between 22 and 23 in the overall flow , staging…etc.
Is 24 going to bring a big Change in direction for a show choice? My guess is yes 😁
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22 hours ago, Lance said:
So you want Christmas in late June is what you're saying?
Well, I do have some friends to do Christmas in July. Lol.
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3 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
sanity for the world
Just a small wish right ? 🤪 😊
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So for this holiday season, I would like… The Bluecoats to announce their 2024 Show Concept at the exact stroke of midnight, 2024 😃 Come on how hip , cool and unexpected would that be ? Lol
what would you like?
Let’s have some fun with this…..
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On 11/23/2023 at 1:46 PM, kevingamin said:
As a long time performer and fan of the activity, I get literal chills when I see a drum corps coming into the frame in front of Macy’s, with enough sound output to drown out any of the TV presenters (sorry, Willard Scott, but that many G bugles blasting out Auld Lang Syne is going to make you invisible from an audio standpoint).
https://medi-nerd.com/2023/11/23/drum-corps-in-the-macys-thanksgiving-day-parade/
Great Stuff, Kevin and thanks so much for posting that I haven’t seen the 1992 All-Star Macy corps since it aired. I was a member of the 1994 All-Star Macy corps. I’m sure you know, but there were a couple of combined/Allstar corps that marched on New Year’s Day.
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On 11/20/2023 at 12:39 PM, greg_orangecounty said:
Soooo awesome!! I don't usually watch it but I will this year. Thank you Band Directors! Would Drum Corps have ever existed without y'all?
They did an awesome job. What a cool idea! However, they looked and sounded like a band lol. All of the drum corps who have done the parade did it with that drum corps swagger that can’t be beat 😃
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11 hours ago, fighterkit said:
Craig and co got it.
As Gino's DM, on and off really just means 8 counts from the met and then no more during the actual rep.
We have done some people play and some dont. "Upper brass in, low brass is out"Mystery solved lol thank you so much
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11 hours ago, craiga said:
"On and Off" is the instruction given to whomever is operating the met during ensemble rehearsal. It just means that Gino wants to have the met on as the drum major is kicking off the segment but to have it turned off once the hornline comes in.
Great, thanks!
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Hey everyone, something real random here, but finally I have to find out the scoop of this particular term …
on and off
I sat through more drum corps rehearsals than anyone probably should have as a fan lol and it seems to be with the Gino Cipriani brass lines. during rehearsal. He will tell them to go on and off.. as a Brass player myself I can only assume this mean some players are playing and some are not. the question I have is, how do they determine who plays or doesn’t play? Is it simply even or odd?
Can you tell it’s off-season with this type of question? Lol.
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11 hours ago, Spinastick said:
Because "variety" is one of many markers towards achieving a decent G. E. music score, and although jazz is BDs hallmark, they always work in a wide range of styles,moods, and textures into their musical programming. I feel like trying to cram various jazz styles into the show as to adhere to a thematic concept would actually limit their ability to present the same scope of contrasting sounds that they are usually able to achieve.
Well, to be honest, the type of show I suggested would probably make for a unique Jazz show with nice variety and would give BD a vehicle to re-engage with the genre wholeheartedly. Kind of for old time sake’s . I honestly don’t consider jazz to be a hallmark of Bd anymore and actually hasn’t been for many years imo. It would be very refreshing to see them take on one genre and bring it to the absolute max instead of presenting music from a zillion genres in one show.
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18 hours ago, Mr_Moto said:
We’re looking at the activity as a whole, and I think there are some ways that everyone is affected equally. Ultimately though we’re talking about a small group of non-profits that all operate on a slightly different business model. There are 3 big levers that are what we need to look at in how to fix the problem. 1.) Operating Expenses 2.) Revenue 3.) Fundraising. It’s not going to be a one size fits all solution, it’s going to be a bunch of small little tweaks and investments that are going to help right the ship, and each corps will have to figure out what is going to work best for them.
This is going to require corps to really workshop and try to look at their operation holistically and through a different lens. This requires creative problem solving, and is going to take several iterations to figure out what will work, create the metrics, and make it happen. This process has to be collaborative and operated from a flat hierarchy in order for it to not be steamrolled by one individual or small subset that might already be controlling power.
What are the things that need to remain constant vs what can change? The member experience, which include competing, is the main draw for the competitors. So how do we keep that same, even if we’re looking at less shows or possibly fewer miles traveled, while figuring out other areas in the organization that can reduce operating expenses.Operating Expenses:
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Most corps are already minimizing camp attendance, some cutting to just brass for Feb and March already.
- One of the biggest expenses is flying in instructors and paying them. Can we use more local staff who aren’t necessarily on tour to help fill out the roster and who also might be willing to work for the same or less pay.
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Size of the convoy is a thing that adds up quickly. Vehicle rental + labor to drive + gas + insurance = This is 20-25% of the budget for most corps
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Souvies could be cut down. Mandarins is a great example of this. They weren’t making enough at most shows to cover the cost. How can we reduce operating expense while trying to maintain the same revenue?
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You could take the Souvie vehicle out of the fleet. Cut the foot print of soupiest for most shows to a small tent, samples of most/all items, and one person with a POS system. The foot print of this could fit in the back of one of the support vans that most corps have. All orders are then shipped from corps hall or 3rd party the next day. Yes, fans lose the instant gratification of getting the item that moment, but if you educate them on why they are doing this, most would understand. They could still do full size souvie setups at regionals and finals and this would exponentially cut down cost.
- With a smaller setup size for most shows you could have this run by one of the admin assistants as the size would only require 1-2 people to setup.
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You could take the Souvie vehicle out of the fleet. Cut the foot print of soupiest for most shows to a small tent, samples of most/all items, and one person with a POS system. The foot print of this could fit in the back of one of the support vans that most corps have. All orders are then shipped from corps hall or 3rd party the next day. Yes, fans lose the instant gratification of getting the item that moment, but if you educate them on why they are doing this, most would understand. They could still do full size souvie setups at regionals and finals and this would exponentially cut down cost.
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Souvies could be cut down. Mandarins is a great example of this. They weren’t making enough at most shows to cover the cost. How can we reduce operating expense while trying to maintain the same revenue?
- DCI in recent years has created the relationship with Sysco to negotiate for a better deal for all corps for food. How can we leverage DCI to negotiate better rates on other things that all corps are doing. Could DCI negotiate with a bussing company or tractor/trailer rental company to do a larger rental contract for the season that corps opt in to.
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Corps need new revenue streams. Many have realized this, but drum corps is not the money maker. These non-profits need to realign in serving their community to create opportunities to generate revenue, and qualify for more grant opportunities. This would take a lot of leg work in building relationships and initial infrastructure investment to get things up and running.
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Music lessons programs - Some corps have done this locally or virtually. Incorporating staff or local educators to improve local music education is a viable option. This could include student and adult performance groups as well.
- This could be a great opportunity for older members or recent age outs that are local to cut their teeth on teaching and to continue to have a relationship with the corps in the off-season.
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Music Store - with many local music shops closing down this could be an opportunity to create a hybrid opportunity, and have an instrument repair tech on staff that could be useful for the corps to keep repair costs down, and could be an opportunity to build great relationships in the community with local band directors by offering repair services and bid on local school contracts.
- This could be starting their own or investing into a percentage of a local company to help support them and make sure the community has music instrument inventory and repair resources.
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Create a service that the corps has been outsourcing. Phantom has done great with this by creating a march printing business that is available to other corps or the local community.
- Cross pollination - Corps could use this to co-op to use their buying power together to support each other and make sure that they’re getting the best possible price.
- Entertainment Companies - We’ve already seen this with corps in certain locations especially where pro sports are. Advertising these services and having local members.
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Music lessons programs - Some corps have done this locally or virtually. Incorporating staff or local educators to improve local music education is a viable option. This could include student and adult performance groups as well.
Fundraising:
Fundraising is such an integral piece to making drum corps happen. We’re at a place in time where everyone is being stretched thin financially with the current rate of inflation. If we consider the recession of 2008-2010, how did that affect fundraising for drum corps? Are we looking at something similar now where we could potentially see a downturn in dollars raised for corps? Or is that a risk to be considered?
Exposure of the Activity:
If we’re ultimately looking for more corporate sponsorships to help offset costs, then the activity needs more exposure and that is going to take an investment. This is where the PBS broadcast used to be super helpful in getting this niche activity in front of a larger audience. DCI should be investing in larger media advertising campaign to help promote the activity as a whole. Hopefully this is something the new DCI CEO will be looking to focus on.Awesome stuff and let’s add marketing the hell out of the activity and what it is? Most people have absolutely no idea what drum corps is. I can’t help but think there are some people out there who would love the activity AND have businesses and deep pockets.
what do Corps and DCI do to promote the activity on a daily yes daily basis? On season and offseason! How many individual towns and cities do corps spend time in during the course of their tour? Do they market in those areas? Doesn’t have to be fancy or super time consuming.
more people have to be aware of what the activity is, and the fact that it exists. The more people in the know could easily translate to new revenue streams …..
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Most corps are already minimizing camp attendance, some cutting to just brass for Feb and March already.
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18 hours ago, Newseditor44 said:
The issue is simple, the cost to operate a drum corps has out-paced the revenue models that are sustainable for most orgs. Fundraising dollars are no longer enough to push 6 busses and 4 trucks down the road anymore. DCI has not done enough to contain the costs, and the writing has been on the wall for sometime now. The fact that they haven’t moved to in a direction to proactively cut costs, coupled with inflation and increases in food, fuel and housing, will make it very difficult for corps to survive another five years. This is just the beginning. To be fair, this is not solely on DCI, but they share the blame.
Sorry to say this, but in my opinion of the whole ….
“By us for us, we know best mentality” doesn’t work. Clearly, a lot of them/ corps administrations have no idea how finances work, because so many corps have struggled to stay afloat and even more corps have left us due to financial reasons. There needs to be a lot of administrative overhaul because like the quote says …
“it’s not possible to solve a problem with the same thinking that created it”
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On 9/21/2023 at 5:32 PM, DCP NewsFeed said:
What a ride it has been! Throughout the challenges and triumphs of our history, the Blue Stars have continued to thrive and prevail. And now we are excited and proud to march into the 2024 season celebrating our 60th anniversary. Among the highlights of our unique history we will celebrate: Our humble beginnings in 1964 […]
Very cool! I know this will never happen, but how about if they re-do the show that won them a championship when they were division three ? 😁
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9 hours ago, Bob984 said:
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On 8/14/2023 at 10:16 PM, ECJ94 said:
If you could hand pick Dan Acheson's successor as DCI's CEO, whom would you pick?
I have seen people mention Dave Gibbs and David Glasgow already, but was hoping for people's thoughts and reasoning behind the picks.
I'll go first. Robert Morrison - formerly of The Cadets, Music for All, VH1 Save the Music, Pearl Percussion, NAMM, etc.
https://musicforall.org/board-of-directors/robert-b-morrison/
Bob ticks off a ton of the boxes that I would like to see.
1) Familiarity with drum corps (as he was former staff - the first front ensemble caption head for the C-Pit).
2) Experience in non-profit management.
3) Highly successful in business.
4) Very well respected by many within the music/arts community.
I think Dan Acheson did a good job as the CEO of DCI. I really don’t know who Dan’s replacement should be. Whoever it is, I believe they have to address some thing that has been neglected for a very, very long time. From what I could tell , very little has been done to try and bring awareness to what DCI is outside of the Marching band, WGI and indoor Drumline, activities. There could very well be people out there with pockets full of money who would fall in love the DCI. However , because there is no distinctive plan from DCI leader ship for promoting DCI outside of the marching arts groups, there’s little to no chance we can find people like that. Promoting the activity within like-groups is an obvious thing to do.. DCI leadership should be actively going after the sources who know nothing about drum corps and try to bring them onboard. Just my opinion…
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1 hour ago, DAL-27 said:
This & add they also need to stay in front of PR
Yep, I did include that in my message. I said they have to stay ahead of cavies and phantom 😁
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2 hours ago, DFA1970 said:
I believe Mandarins are on that launching pad to the level of top 4. NOBODY....including me expected their rise and sophistication in 2023. I still get that feeling from these post they are not taking seriously.
Cracking into the top five is really difficult as we all know . For the Mandarins to finish in the top four ; and using the results from this year, the mandarins would have to stay ahead of cavaliers, and phantom and jump “two” of these corps; Cadets , Boston, Crown, Bluecoats BD.
My opinion , anything is possible but I will say historically it is incredibly difficult and rare for lightning to strike twice and the mandarins definitely struck like a bolt of lightning with their show choice and talent in 2023. Maintaining their current position of sixth place would be a huge victory for 2024 in my book.
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Troopers 2024
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Sounds like they are going to have a great trombone player, a solid high note trumpet player and a deep voice singer. 😊