JimF-LowBari
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33 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
I was for two seasons 2000 and 2002 . Much different than juniors way back when.
The worst thing I saw was these old men ogling the Capital Sound color guard in 2000. Absolutely revolting.
Yeah I heard a few things in the late 70s from an instructor regarding two of our high school aged guard members. Then didn’t think too much of it but today 🤮
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44 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
We had an assistant drum major who wasn’t with the corps the whole winter, made up some cockamamie excuse as to why he couldn’t play a horn so in true Peter Principle fashion, they appoint him assistant drum major. FF to summer in some Godforsaken place and we were waiting around for something and a couple people weren’t at parade rest. So he says something stupid like “go to parade rest like we learned in the winter”. Well, me being well… me… I said “How would you know? You weren’t there in the winter.” Next thing I know the real DM is dragging me off the field.
You should have been in a Senior corps. 👍
Had one snare drummer light a cig just before he was told time to do warm ups. Muttered “I ain’t wasting this” and smoked it while warming up with rest of the line. When done he just turned his head and spit it out about 5 feet. Never missed a beat the whole time.
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4 minutes ago, supersop said:
This last post is where people get themselves into trouble. I have a million things to say .... but to what end?
I'm sorry you were hurt. I know that is not the response that will fix anything.
I won't nitpick every misstatement or non factual information you've just posted. Not worth it.
Whatever makes everyone feel better in the moment I guess.Just know that when you say things that aren't facts, opinions that cause further damage to people who are grieving ... you're not making any fans in the process.
The post was repeating a quote from MAASINs founder….
As for suing is often the last resort, same thing said about Spirits current troubles. Person reporting went to management and complaint was supposedly buried. As for attacks towards the accuser, saw them myself on Spirits own FB page
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23 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Not sure i've heard that one directly. Lip reading isn't the magical thing TV and Movies would have you believe.
The huddle has its orgins with us though.True about the lip reading not being a 100% help. Need person facing you, good lighting and facial hair not covering lips. (I fail on that one). From what I read the players were talking directly to G players. “I’m going to run right at you”, etc etc.
Not an expert on hearing impaired but had a deaf (word used at the time) congregation in our church. Learned a lot interacting with them, once a month combined services and the ASL class I took (and sucked at).
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3 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
I recall seeing once the Gallaudet football team having bass drum on sideline & when hit it, vibrations tell center to hike hall. Is this still the case?
Ex-friend (walked out on wife hence the “ex”) went there. Story of their football team decades ago. Beat a high ranked team that got over confident. Other team players were saying out loud what they were going to do because “they can’t hear us”. No.. but they can read your lips. 🤦♂️
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12 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
Looks nice but on DelMarVa peninsula; if W&M is too out of the way this is worse
One main route (Rt 50) thru the whole peninsula. Never been thru there on a summer travel day (thank goodness). Brother in laws family lived near there (Easton) for couple of years. No idea of available housing or practice facilities.
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4 minutes ago, Tim K said:
When I mentioned CVS and the urgent care facilities in my area, I was not endorsing CVS, I was mentioning why Walmart Health has not established itself in my area just yet. Actually if Yelp reviews are to be believed, CVS Minute Clinics are not great either and my one experience at a Minute Clinic is not a ringing endorsement. People can disagree about whether Walmart Health is a good option, but I don’t feel that mentioning that some Walmart pharmacies are understaffed and at least in one case was closed for a week is a political position.
Lot of pharmacies are having staffing problems. One I use (different chain) has cut back hours and started closing for a lunch period. Have heard same story for other places
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1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said:
This sounds like a great idea but all I can think of is those people of Walmart videos.
Thinking of some of the people we had in our Senior corps… oh yeah… 😳😱😟
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On 4/5/2024 at 3:01 PM, olddrummer34 said:
Soundsport and Alumni groups don't tour, they essentially meet on a few weekends to get their act together and meet up at DCI. They have no money - and could never afford background checks the way corps that tour do. Should every adult community sports league background check the participants? Because that is the equivalent of an alumni group. Everyone is an adult.
Who says the corps have to pay for the background check? Members would submit and pay for their own checks. And then turn the results to the corps before being allowed to join.
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4 hours ago, jmc5682 said:
I do not see how that was a flex. It was with another guy. I deleted the post anyway as I should have considered some people could be triggered.
What difference does it make that it was 2 of the same gender? And if someone is upset and you’re not, then they are triggered?
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1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
But I would also see US military members w/ very young Japanese girls off base, but I suppose they were 13+. And then there were the ones who went on leave to Philippines or Thailand. But just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right.
Way off topic and mods can delete if desired but sounds like the human trafficking training the DoD would give to military and civilians
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2 hours ago, OldSnareDrummer said:
In fairness, Keith could have been blinded from looking up at the eclipse without proper PPE.
I don't get why the whole country is losing their minds over this thing.
Yeah really, you set up a human sacrifice pit in your backyard and people freak. 😈
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31 minutes ago, MikeN said:
That was considered a "best practice" in 2019 DCI - glad to see it's become mandatory for most groups.
Mike
When my old church implemented protection policy mid 1990s. It was two adults regardless of number of youth. Policy written by the insurance company. Sad part was people who didn’t like it relented when we said it would save money,
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7 minutes ago, Chief Guns said:
The Navy should have been saying that saying back in 1991. The "Tailhook" scandal shook the Navy to its very foundation.
By the time I got to Boot Camp in 1997, we were receiving training and lectures on it.
I was civilian working for Navy agency when it hit. Thats when we started receiving the first anti sexual harassment training. (And the civilians got same training as military.) And it took a while to get all the pieces together. First few years we only heard about male harassing female… and go to supervisor if problems (what if the supervisor is the problem?)
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1 hour ago, rmurrey74 said:
The safe sport training is activity wide. As a staff member, the amount of training I receive is far and beyond what I have to do for any other activity I’m involved in. (Coaching youth baseball and volunteering with the high school musicals for set construction). It’s also far more than our 15 minute sexual harassment training taken yearly for work. It’s probably never enough, but there’s frequent reminders, spelled out in my teaching contracts, in separate policy documents. It’s taken very seriously by the two drum corps I have recently taught and I’ve heard no different from my friends and past members teaching across the activity.
There’s some people that will never be satisfied or convinced that it’s enough. That’s fine, but it’s a huge improvement over what existed five years ago. I’m not sure what more could be done right now but making the minimum age 18 would be best in my mind.
How does SafeSport handle points of contact for reporting? I was at a govt agency and for us it was 1)supervisor 2) person in agency who handles reporting 3) national reporting line. Use 3 if 1 and 2 are the problems or you don’t trust them to handle the problem correctly. We had hour of anti sexual harassment and another hour of anti sexual assault training yearly. Consisted of mostly what not to do, what to do if harassed/assaulted and how and who to contact for help
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34 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
It’s getting very interesting over there. And very sad. People get beat down by the angry mob for speaking out.
Finally found it… guessing lot of comments got removed
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17 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
SSI differentiates youth from adult safeguarding, but emphasizes that both are critical to be considered a safe sport entity. And not just for participants, but for staff, volunteers, and leadership as well:
Adults: https://safesportinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/SAFEGUARD-DOC-Proof-4-Single.pdf
Children/minors*: https://safeinsport.org/8-safeguards/
*also available in Swahili 💪🏽
Did a Quick Look and sounds like the anti sexual harassment training I had. IMO having members know what protections they have and what to do in case of trouble is part of it. Another part is making sure the people working with youth are safe (background check).
What is hazy to me is how DCI fits into it. Probably my lack of knowledge but sounds like DCI isn’t taking an active role in protecting. IOW too much relying on the individual corps and outside groups (SS) to handle things. To put it another way DCI is sitting back saying “we have SS now… see we took action, we’re cool”-
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9 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
It’s fine. They can just keep putting out fires rather than being proactive.
Then when everything is a pile of ashes ask “what the #### happened? We ran things the way we always had before.”
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1 hour ago, olddrummer34 said:
First of all, you haven't gotten a response and you are jumping,ping to a huge conclusion here
Alumni groups are ALL ADULTS. Soundsport groups DO background check staff, but the participants are all KIDS. DCI doesn't;t background check the performers either because they are kids. They all complete safesport. What else do you expect DCI to do?
Do you have anything to do all day rather than stir up drama here? And what does any of your post have to do with the cadets bakruptcy.
Why do you insist on turning every thread into a "DCI isn't doing enough and doesn[t care".
Not all alumni group members are adults. And not sure why a performer being a “kid” makes a difference. Some of the incidents I’ve seen reported had a minor as a assailant.
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1 hour ago, Slingerland said:
That's the equivalent of "I'm leaving to spend more time with my family." My recollection is that DCI's membership committee or exec leadership specifically told them to sit the year out and fix things.
Could be, I was following on Spirits FB page so who knows how much real info was released there.
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1 hour ago, Slingerland said:
DCI already has policies in place for member corps, and has acted to suspend an organization once allegations of abuse were presented to them (SOA in 2022).
Thought Spirit took off a year on their own when they realized they had to clean up things.
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11 minutes ago, Mello Dude said:
Was it put up today?
It was up yesterday but just told third party company. Not a lawyer so can’t explain it
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Edit: just told sovie company is a third party. Not a lawyer so can’t answer question.
If Cadets assets are frozen because of the bankruptcy….
why is there a link to buy Cadets souvenirs on Facebook (Museum of Drum Corps History group). 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻
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3 hours ago, Sideways said:
I can only imagine he had a show scripted out and entitled…”His name is George, and this is what he said.”
Only time I heard him talk was at a pre season exhibition show at Gettysburg sponsored by the local Brass Band Festival. If he didn’t talk longer than the corps played, it was close. People around us were saying “Cadets are only part of the show so wth?” and “George we came to hear the corps”.
The whistleblowers and survivors of abuse in this industry are tired...
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Ye olde “the problem isn’t that something bad happened, the problem is reporting it makes the group look bad”.
Shades of when Penn State scandal broke (live in PSU country 🙄)