JimF-LowBari
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<Deleing my smart ###ed comment after I read the last few pages of the original thread> ^0^
Interesting results so far. Voted for 11 rough minutes as that way I can see what the show designers had in mind. #### I've seen rough 11 minutes of shows in the early part of August from some corps in the past. B)
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What if a corps comes out, plays the first three minutes of their show while standing on one leg, then puts their horns down, picks up kazoos and plays the next four minutes while doing the funky chicken, and then sits down on the field and plays duck duck goose for the rest of the show????
What if what if what if...
Well they certainly wouldn't do the Funky Chicken (or the Chicken Dance) while playing their horns. Geez, they don't even do high mark time while playing anymore because it throws off the sound quality (or so I've been told). ^0^ :P
OK, question for the panel. Early on would would rather see a complete show with a ragged drill or a well executed 8 minutes of drill with 3 minutes of standstill playing?
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it's also for those that cant do DCA for any reason...or DCi for that matter. Westshore haspeople of all ages, some without any previous corps experience
And since Jeff brought it up, a lot of "Alumni" groups will take in members without any Drum Corps experience. If you want to do Drum Corps but can't do DCI/DCA check the membership rules of your friendly neighborhood ($1 to the Sppiderman song) Alumni corps. And yeah "neighborhood might be a good drive away....
This shameless plug brought to you by the letters D and C. B)
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OK thanks to the last two posters for correcting me. Thought I remembered GH last year during the season saying he caught a lot of "stuff" from fans and alumni for messing with the uniforms. Must have assumed he dropped the back fronts (front backs?? :P ) but...
If I get back in time to watch Cadets I'll let you know what the unis look like this year. Like I posted before I'm against amps being used by corps but since I'm at the show already I'll watch what's being done. And to be blunt, as a member of the "opening act" I can't beat the admission price ($0) ^0^ :P
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Didn't the double front uniforms (uni front also worn on the back) get dropped part way thru the season? Sorry but I saw the word shoddy and that's what came to my mind.
Thought of this for two reasons:
1) "Shoddy" is a Civil War term that originally was applied to chepo clothes
2) The front of the Cadets cadet top is so sharp looking the "cloth glued on cloth" (my term) backs looked crappy by comparision.
Maybe the effect was supposed to be surreal but it just looked wierdly bad....
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Back in June 2002 I went to my first corps show in 10 years with Cadets and Crossmen. Then the Cadets did not have a completed show as the corps just walked between a bunch of sets. Talked to a Cadets dad and he said the weather kept the corps from learning the complete show. And Spring 2002 had horrible torrential rains in my part of the country.
In 2004 there were a lot of posts about incomplete shows at early contests. Appeared a large percentage of corps were not ready by the start of the season and weather was not a factor. Asked what was the difference between 2002 and 2004. Most of the responses I recieved was that in two years the number of sets in a show greatly increased so more time was needed to learn the show.
My guess is the number of sets is still increasing as corps try to do more and more on the field. IOW - get used to incomplete shows early on as it ain't gonna get better.
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just up the road a ways from Nanty Glo :P
LMAO!!! :P Actually drove thru the Welsh term for "Coal Brook" one time just to see what it looked like.
After I was done, my first thought was "That that was 15 minutes wasted".
Seriously way to go Cresson for having three or four corps at a parade. Only multi-corps parades I see anymore is Baltimore area during 4th of July.
... Now turning thread control back over to Mr Matczak....
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And an 'Attaboy for anyone having the slightest clue where the Hades Cresson, PA is at.
I do but had to go thru it when I took the bus home from college. :sshh:
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*sigh* At least they're doing the parade bit so they won't be totally inactive. It's so much harder to reform if the corps shuts down and everyone scatters.
No Senior corps from Canada :(
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Thanks!! I can't wait to see them. I have one more weekend to wait. Go Cadets
If this means you'll be at Gettysburg stop by the Lancers group if you get a chance. I'm the only Jim playing Bari.
If I remember right we missed each other two years ago when I got sick and had to miss the show. :(
Oh ####, anyone's welcome to stop by and say hi to my ugly mug. Last year I met Sweenydoc, let's see who I meet this year.
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And we want a full review, Jim! :)
Fran
Much as I am anti-amp I do plan to get back to see the Cadets and Crossmen as soon as I get done changing out of my "green garb". :P Problem is I think the order is Lancers, Crossmen, Cadets which means I'll probably miss Crossmen.
Hey I'm 48 years old which means it takes a while to catch my breath and drink a bottle of Gatorade or two. :(
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I've seen that pic before, it's New Orleans... oops, Nah 'Lins...
Don't think I can post pics like the rest of you as I don't have a home webpage. Here's a Flick link to the four older Baris I currently own. Only problem is you also have to look at my ugly mug as well.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14488996@N00/(Just added first three pics) First Flickr shot is me last year with the Lancers marching with my 3 valver. Second I'm posing with my Olds P/R Duratone (frosted finish) Bari. The Olds Baris were great horns as well and a joy to play. Has to be one of the worlds' worst staged shots of me playing this horn. It was taken in the backyard and there is a freakin' swing set behind me. Pic was taken a few days before I left corps to join the "working world".
And BlondeContra your reasons for doing All Age are an echo of what I heard (and said) 30 years ago. No slam intended to Junior corps, each person has to do what's best for them, be it Junior, All Age or (yes) Alumni. Ain't having a choice great. :)
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Next Saturday (6/17) Cadets and Crossmen will be unveiling their shows at the Gettysburg, PA Brass Band Festival. There will also be an Alumni corps that I'm very familiar with.
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Are you sure it wasn't one of those baby half size contras?
Nope this was about a third the size of the baby contras. Westshoremen had the babies in the 1974 corps when they reformed so I saw a good bit of the "little" guys. Will try to get a another look this weekend at practice. Have yet to see a picture of this horn.
:P Trying to picture one of these horns on Jays shoulder. :P
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Back in the 50s or early 60s there was a contraption :P that looked like you described. It was a should mounted euph and was used by a (some?) girl corps instead of contras. Think I asked the question because I saw pieces of the beast down in our corps equipment room.
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At DCA Worlds in 2004, I purchased some old Fleetwood recordings that are now available on CDs. I think they are putting the entire music library on CD now.
Edit: I've added some links in the next posting.
Last I check (a while ago) the folks making the CDs were looking for albums they didn't have.
And pistolpete, hope your tapes are still laying around. Had a few of smaller corps that were never recorded and I had them converted to CD a year or so ago for free. Can provide the link if anyone wants but this place does DC only.
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Always thought doing the RCA shows gave me a real appreciation for the effort given by corps. When you see a top corps you know #### well they busted their butts practicing. But even a last place corps (raising my hand here) has to put in boat loads of effort to put on a whole show. And they know full well they will get less respect and audience response.
Also think it's easier to have a good sounding show with a full corps. It's when a corps has a total unbalance in the horn line or between drums and horns that they have to get inventive or be careful in what they do. Saw a lot of unbalanced and/or rookie filled corps in RCA and they were interesting to watch to see how they handled their shortcomings.
Just another reason why I buy the Prelims CDs instead of Finals.
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Mike (Mr. Boooooo Chronicles ^0^ ) when did DCN finally go under? Think I let me subscription lapse in the early 80s when I moved on my own and had to cut corners. Lat I remember DCN was moving into covering MBs.
Have to thank DCN for gettng me hooked on old time corps sounds. DCN was starting to re-release Fleetwood albums but a fire wiped out most of the original tapes in the mid or late 70s. :( (That's why a lot of Fleetwoods today are from cleaned up records. The originals literally went up in smoke.)
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Drum Corps News as it was based in MA and followed the Senior circuit better than DCW at the time. LOL, we even had a DCN writer ride with us on long trips.
Also got lot of show flyers handed out and mailed. Don't see that anymore.
And my annual buy DCA Champs records now and get 'em by Thanksgiving letter. :)
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This was carefully thought out and clearly intended... the whole idea of Class A was to allow a proper growth in both numbers, proficiency and organization (including financial) before you had to compete against the "Big Corps"
The financial aspect is all important and Class A has become key to the national growth of DCA...
This is definitely one idea that "worked" and is still working...
Always thought this was one of DCAs best changes.Beats the old way of "start up" corps getting their brains kicked in by the big guns. There was a reason why the smaller corps had their own circuit. (Been there, got clobbered by that)
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Alliance show - was that a Sunday afternoon show? I seem to recall Steel city having a Saturday night DCA show in mid - PA (where we were introduced to the Westshoremen Underwear Parade and the crazy bass drummer with the knife spinning 'talent' , then driving all night to get to Alliance.
Sounds like was Jeff Raudabaugh doing his tribute to the Bridgemen.
Short skinny guy about HS/college age.
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1985. Took a 2-point penalty every time out.
Yep, only year we did ICA shows when I was in Main Guard (long story).
Empire went for the GE that year as they also had Uncle Sam on stilts. Only remember that because of an ICA show in West Hillbillie, NY (town looked like it anyway) :P . Corps left the field after retreat and marched behind the stadium where there was poor lighting and pot holes big enough to swallow cars. "Uncle Sam" left with the corps walking on his stilts and had to make sure he didn't break his neck out back.
And we were taking bets if he would fall on his face or butt. ^0^
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Hey All,
ICA Championships
August 24, 1985
Erie, Pa
1. Rochester Crusaders 94.00
2. Empire Statesmen 87.90
3. Excalibur Sr. 84.20
4. Guelph Royalaires 81.00
5. Westshoremen 74.90
6. Gen Butler Vagabonds Sr. 74.60
7. Keystoners 52.90
8. Knights of Noble Callahan 47.00
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That's all I have guys.....
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John G
So THAT's what happened at 1985 ICA. I was there with the AF section and all I remember is it poured and retreat was either an empty field or DM only.
1985 ICA Champs aka Erie Monsoon Fest
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Richie Sennett was there, drop him a line
Found the RAMD posts from him and good bit was about the 1979 corps that came out for DCA. Only other name I came up with was ####(ie :P ) Adams who I never met. I should ask Rich if he's coming to Gettysburg in two weeks.
Cadets - observations
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Maybe it took a few viewings of the show to get used to. :P Seeing it without warning in the first half of June was kind of a shock. Feeling some people had was "Why do GH change the Cadets unis?. Because he CAN!". ^0^
Also at the time no one quite had an idea what the <bleep> "Doors of Perception" meant. I was hoping Cadets were going to do Jim Morrison and company since Crossmen were already doing "Radar Love" and "Paradise By the Dashboard Light" (aka - music I can understand
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