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27 minutes ago, TheOneWhoKnows said:
I would argue the demand is higher for the performers than ever. You don't just march drill anymore. There is choreography now, other visual, props to move and learn where they go. Learning to maneuver around the props. And this obsession with being as clean as possibly right out of the gate. Let's also not forget that you can't run the kids into the ground anymore. It is entirely plausible to not get a full show out.
Not speaking about any corps in particular but you could argue that 1 variable is your member talent level, another variable is the season length. You should be able to set a project plan in place to meet goals based on what is known about those variables to meet that end goal.
If you have a shorter season to learn and a lower talent level to work with, then you should have a difficulty level appropriate to that timeframe and talent level. Maybe part of that plan is not starting with a full show but the longer you go without a full show, the less time you have to make what you've got more effective.
I myself have been guilty of writing show music for my kids a bit harder than I should have in the past and it doesn't get as clean as I want at the end of the season. As the years have gone by, I've learned how to gauge that talent and capacity a bit better but this is something I think everyone has to continue to analyze every year.
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57 minutes ago, TheOneWhoKnows said:
Cavaliers just pulled out of tonight
The Cavaliers will not appear tonight in Rockford, Michigan. The Air Quality Index (AQI) where the corps is being housed for rehearsal has remained in the “Very Unhealthy” range, exceeding both NCAA and DCI protocol for safe outdoor activity to occur for the last several days. Through consultation with local officials, we have continued to follow all rehearsal guidelines established by DCI while monitoring any changes in air quality on an hourly basis.
What exact are DCI Protocol for safe outdoor activity and why doesn't this apply to everyone? What are "rehearsal guidelines?" The show would be canceled if these protocols are officially being monitored and followed and it officially exceeded them.
Maybe its just me but everyone should perform or no one should perform.
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2 minutes ago, TOC said:
But, how much rehearsing has been moved indoors if any?
I’m guessing not much because I doubt whatever high school they are staying at has much indoor space. Troopers did their preview show last night in these conditions. I don’t know what they did during the day.
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Not to sound irresponsible but corps have still been rehearsing in the Midwest right?
if they can hold a rehearsal during the day, I’m assuming they can do a show in the evening.
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9 hours ago, ComicJeff2012 said:
I read that they are doing a dress rehearsal tonight at 8:30pm central time.
Their FB page indicated they would share video on their FB and Youtube pages around 10:30 ET. Still waiting.
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Why are all of the pictures from the side? We can't get a straight on view of the corps uniform?
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I'm not a brass player at all but that looks like a small tuba section. I like what I hear so far.
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I want to know what the deal is with the green sparkle drums with tubes in them.
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32 minutes ago, MikeN said:
They're coming back? (again?)
Mike
Trying too. I don't think there is an expectation for them to be a huge player in the marching market but just to have a presence. I'm supposed to see a new snare drum at some point.
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9 hours ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
Well at least I got the die-nasty correct. That's awesome to hear that the Tamas are coming in light. You really don't need much shell strength with free floaters. Beech and Birch would make far more sense than Maple. They are light and very resonant. Plus I would almost be willing go bet that any Maple used for plys would be soft maple. Hardness wise they're probably within 200 of being the same on the janka scale (sorry I am not going to look it up.) But weight wise maple if far heavier. Maybe they've gone to all Birch and Beech shells by now. I'm way behind in my drum building chops.
Everything is still maple. IMO birch and beech are to high frequency to be effective. Maple is pretty full spectrum on the sound and easily obtainable.
Mapex uses an inner ply of walnut on their tenors. Tama did have a birch/bubinga option when they first launched but it has been discontinued most likely due to import restrictions on bubinga.
Premier uses birch exclusively if I recall. I’m waiting to see and hear new prototypes of their marching stuff. I’m hoping to do a side by side comparison with my school’s Pearl Carboncore.
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2 hours ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
All very true. The old 80s challengers weren't really any heavier than the Pearl Criterions were. I feel like the Yamahas were maybe a tad lighter and the Premier Resonators were a good bit lighter. The biggest beef I had with Ludwig Challengers was the snare strainer. It was horrid to tune and the cam would wear out half way through the season.
Drum set wise, Ludwig sets were pretty darn good. Big sound, lots of size options and just REALLY consistent from set to set.
Hardware is definitely where the weight comes in. Tamas marching snares are the new beast weight wise IMHO. Heavier than Dynasty. Pearl and Yamaha haven't changed much in many years. Yeah yeah yeah carbon fiber blah blah blah. I tinker with a LOT of carbon fiber because I build low deflection pool cue shafts with it. It sounds like.....well....nothing. It has no tone, no warmth and no feel. It's a dead material. But we have to remember we're playing on table tops now so tone isn't that crucial.
Now the WORST material ever was good ol' Vistalite. A close second goes to North and Stingray for bringing us the hell that is fiberglass. That's my vision of hell. 6th grade drumlines outfitted with an entire battery of Remo Legato drums. /shiver
Tama has done a lot to make them lighter. The 14x12 snare is 14.2 lbs. Probably the lightest I can find spec for online for drum that size.
The Yamaha 9414 snare drum is 15.2, Pearl is 14.5 and the Dynasty Custom Elite is 16.4 (!?!?!?!?!) for comparison.
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3 hours ago, resipsaloquitur said:
I was a roadie in the mid-80s and saw the Ludwigs used by Quiet Riot, Def Leppard, others. I always believed them had more heft and were more "beefier" for lack of a better word than other brands. I personally played on Tamas. Now, not being in the activity anymore, if that were still true, doesn't it make marching on the move harder? Or are marching drums something Ludwig has refined just for marching.
Aluminum is a lot more prevalent today on hardware. Ludwig Classic Maple snares are 7 ply. The new Ultimate Snare Drum is 8 ply and obviously deeper depth. Heavier by default but many accommodations have been made in the hardware. Full size marching snares today run between 14.5 and 15 lbs.
Long story short, drums themselves aren't really heavy. it's the hardware that really adds the weight. Unless of course someone was playing an old Ludwig Stainless Steel kit like John Bonham did at the end. Those would survive a hurricane.
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7 hours ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
I had a Ludwig kit in pewter (stainless) wrap at one point. I always hated their marching drums (which seemed to follow me from high school to drum corps) but loved their kits.
I used Ludwig in college. The new Ludwig drums BD use are REALLY Good. I takes away the bitter taste of what I had to play on in the 90’s.
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4 hours ago, karuna said:
I have to admit this thread makes giggle a little every year. Drummers discussing finishes,
Well I guess it is more exciting than discussing if the horns are silver or gold plated brass.
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5 minutes ago, keystone3ply said:
Even cooler! Thought it was a wrap.
This video comparing the Maple Gum to a Grestch USA Custom actually shows this exact finish in great detail up close.
I really like it a lot. Sadly, I don't think the details will be seen from the stands but they certainly look beautiful up close.
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10 minutes ago, keystone3ply said:
From the Pearl/Adams FB page, it a ripple wrap. Pearl calls it #854 "White Ice Swirl". I'd post the picture but...
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=654913603343617&set=pcb.654916460009998
This is a finish they offer on the Masters Maple Gum drum set.
It is a lacquer according to their website. I don't think Pearl does wraps on their high end kits.
https://pearldrum.com/products/drum-sets/masters-maple-gum/masters-maplegum
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34 minutes ago, craiga said:
Btw, I'm not certain the Boston drums are wrapped. I ran my fingers over one of the tenors and they have texture to them which feels like real wood. They may be actually woodgrain, but I didn't look close enough to be sure.
I would guess it is a wrap. I've not ever known Pearl to do really elaborate lacquer finishes. I know it can be done because I have a Tama drum set done in the Ocean Blue Ripple lacquer that would a be a similar style as these Pearl. With that being said, a good lacquer finish on a drum will still be smooth to the touch.
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How many Glassmen members actually did it? I considered it but I couldn’t commit the time when they opened it up to us and I had heard they even needed a bass drummer to fill a spot.
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22 hours ago, hughesmr said:
And the mid-70s, when SCV marched copper Slingerlands for several consecutive years.
I thought it dated back further than that but I wasn’t sure exactly when.
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16 hours ago, Weaklefthand4ever said:
Oh you're so right! I forgot about the champagne sparkle Pearl's. I want to say 1985 they used Premiers.
in 2015 SCV also did copper drums which I believe was a tribute to 1990.
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Now that I'm in a better spot, here are the Mandarins drums.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtbyPZOrUX-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Midwest Premiere
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They pulled out when their private jets couldn't see through the smoke to land.