njthundrrd
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On 6/9/2022 at 6:33 AM, 2000Cadet said:
Tour was fantastic with him there. I haven't seen him since 2000, but the memories are still there. R.I.P.
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MY HOT TAKE...
(disclaimer. I have worked with a few Top 12 corps on a fairly high level)
I took a deep look at the top 18 drum corps 990's and gross receipts from 2018 and found this:> 7 out of the top 18 have gross receipts over $2 mil.
> 11 of the top 18 were under with the lowest dollar amount being roughly $1.2 million.
I have analyzed these numbers and others (office pay, money raised vs placement etc) for a few different purposes, but let's continue with this exercise.
1) Let's use $1.8 million for this exercise. Which is super close to a 7-12 corps budget.
Divide that number between marching members and alternates.
1800000/160 = $11,250.00 per student.
Subtract, say, $5000 (the high end of what a student pays for tuition/dues for the summer)So, now what the corps needs to raise in funding is roughly $6,250.00 per member through fundraising, sponsorships, running events, camps/clinics, auditions/learning experiences, side hustles (stores/bingos) etc.
2) NOW... Let's look at the length of a summer.
A lot of corps moved in last weekend - May 20
And will be on tour until - Aug 14.
Total number of days on tour = 86 days.
Cost per student/member per day of tour = $58.143) Food...
If this member was to stay at home and eat 3 fast food meals a day at $8 a meal (of course a corps does not pay this per meal, but a college age student could pay this much if they stayed at home, so follow with me) = $24.
86 days times $24 a day = $2,064.00Subtract $2,064 from $5000 and you get = $2,936.00
or for 86 days, roughly $34 a day for a great drum corps arts education experience and a great resume builder for potential Music Teachers / Band Directors.
4) Thoughts.
> Could there be less staff to reduce costs for members (bus seats, salaries, airfares etc)? Sure. Many would say that it would adversely affect the quality of education and no 30+ yo person wants to go on tour all summer away from their families now.
> Could the tour be different to save corps money? Sure. I still think the regional model until SATX is the best.
> Could the prop wars go away to help save money? Sure. If your corps is on the financial edge, props will not help your group competitively. You have other issues to work with before props. I see the prop graveyards at schools all the time and think of the money wasted.
> Could the sound system wars (mic'ing members especially) save money? Sure. $100k for a sound system sounds nuts to me.
> Could the corps do more remote camps (zoom or smartmusic/musescore or videos) to save money (and airfare for members)? Sure. I think this is more of the future.
> Could members give up a season (indoor winds/perc/guard or drum corps) to reduce the financial strain on themselves or their families? Sure. Young people need to be taught that they cannot have everything and then just go to a gofundme page to get it. We are teaching the wrong things by doing this.
5) Conclusion.
Try finding a soccer, cheer, music, football, arts camp that is the bargain as drum corps is for the time spent away from home and the education the young person gets through music.
Even though I spent $500 for yearly dues to win a few World Championships, I still believe that drum corps is a bargain.
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Whataburger > In-n-Out
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A fitting tribute. Joe was one of a kind. Make sure you have the tissues close.
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My favorite "Joe Gem" while I was at Carolina Crown on a brass tape, "I need a cigarette and I don't smoke!"
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Thank you for posting this....
For those of you that didn't know Joe. He was a DCI, BOA, WGI, DCA judge for over 40 years. If you have ever heard a "Joe tape"... You might not have agreed with the information 100% of the time, but you surely admired his kind, compassionate, humanly educational delivery. All of this that judged, wanted to "be like Joe."
Joe for the last few years battled cancer and when all of the normal treatments did not work, he went through experimental treatments that added years to his life. Who beats cancer 3 times? Not many.
Joe was a fighter and wanted to be around for his wife, all of his kids, and grandkids. Even his beloved pets.I am honored to call myself his friend. We spoke just two weeks ago and I told him I wanted to do a zoom call and interview him on his 50+ years in the activity, about his life, and the changes he has seen in the world. Of course, in typical Joe style, he wanted to make it about other people and not him, then a few days later... he took a turn for the worse. I have had this deep sadness in my heart for a few days now since I heard his time left on earth was almost over from his wife... Another one of my heroes ... gone.
Joe worried that when he passed that no one would show up to his funeral, so ....
FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR JOE ALLISON. (please share)The funeral will be at First Presbyterian Church (330 W Main St, Richmond, KY 40475) on Saturday, April 30th. Visitation will also be at the church from noon until 2 and the service from 2-3 with the internment following the service.
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19 hours ago, Boss Anova said:
Yes... my guess however, all the Corps ( World Class Div ) scheduled to go out, will go out as they planned, and will complete their schedules as planned. Most all WC Corps have " worst case " financial contingencies in place before they go out. Any unexpected expenses incurred higher than expected during the season will likely be addressed after the season, imo. Hope so anyway.
Trust me. Not "all" do.
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18 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
well if the activity is trying to keep this #### out, there's gotta be a way. and seeing as Safesport is having issues with it, it may just be the law doesnt give a #### about safety
Sheesh!
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On 4/17/2022 at 4:26 PM, Jeff Ream said:
Control is the key closely followed by cost. They’d have to pay to bring in people with experience as well as give up some control
And in this day and age... Liability should be added to that list.
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On 4/17/2022 at 4:28 PM, Jeff Ream said:
If someone has been terminated anywhere for these issues, it’s an easy list to keep especially as more incidents become public
Jeff, I think a good lawyer might disagree if their client was on that list.
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On 4/5/2022 at 11:18 PM, Jeff Ream said:
you have a very nice drum corps
$0.02 to George Zingali!
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35 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Thanks for the info but I’m thinking more than staff members in keeping track of “problem people”. Also thinking of members (Spirit had a problem member who was going to BD until BD found out through (possibly) social media.
You’re welcome.
Most drum corps are one or two legal actions away from extinction. The cost to litigate on any size is something that 90% of the corps do not have the means to defend themselves, let alone if they were to lose a lawsuit.
The pendulum has swung (4 years ago), now there has to be some sort of balance between bad actors and people trying to do good.-
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Airfare, gas, food, and all the cost of good to run a drum corps… literally everything… has gone up.
Every corps that wrote their budgets in the late summer/fall should have taken an eraser to them a few times already… and probably will a few times more over the summer. If your budget was tight in the fall/winter, it might be a no go right now. I hope people are smart enough to figure that out. The good ones with good finance committees will.
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I would think that "compiling a list" might be more of a legal issue (I am not a lawyer).
In Education, you get a teaching certificate to the state you work in, which can be retired, expired, surrendered, or in rare instances be revoked. The last two are "yellow flags" to most (if not all) school districts HR departments. In Texas there is a website to see a person’s status. I am sure in other states there could be issues with state teacher’s unions etc to keep the sites from even existing. Is it a perfect system? No, but it seems to work. Most school across the country give the “accused” teacher the choice of 1) Immediately sign these papers and you are no longer employed or 2) we will go public to the press about what you (supposedly) did and let the legal process take place. Obviously, most take the first option and ultimately surrender their teaching certificate.
So, with that said and using a model like, say, Texas, what if once a clear backround check comes back either DCI, the corps, or a separate organization (with plenty of lawyers / maybe even drum corps alum who are lawyers) were able to issue that staff member a teaching certificate for the summer, then manage the certificate’s status? It seems to me that there is precident through the state educational systems to be able to pull this off legally.Who knows? Like I said, I am no lawyer.
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Madison 75
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8 hours ago, 84BDsop said:
Yep....that backfield mello was effing perfect.
LOL I see what you did there! LOL
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5 hours ago, rpbobcat said:
According to the movie critics in this (NYC) area, the main reason the movie is not drawing any
audience to speak of is that, when the actors are speaking Spanish, there are no English subtitles.
That makes it very hard to follow.
Most of the time they are speaking "Spanglish" (part of a phrase in English and the other in Spanish) and it is super easy to follow in the context of the conversation. I had not problem with it at all, but I had 4 years of Spanish in high school and live in Texas! LOL It is not hard to follow ... at all. Even if you had 4 years of German! LOL
2022 Uniform/Costume (whatever you want to call them) Thread
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Posted · Edited by njthundrrd
Post the name of the corps and a photo of what they are wearing this summer!