On a recent visit to Taiwan, I got the opportunity to visit the Chinese National Palace Museum. I found the weirdest horns ever, ......(still giving me nightmares)..... I have heard the G-D slide #### before, the G-Bb argument before but never the human tibia trumpet before (Ken Nornman - I am sure you have not written for this before)...... to me this is totally bizarre but i do have pictures. This is definately a horn of evil stature. I am hearing romours that a brass line from SF may have one or two prototypes in mind. :)