Fred Steiner Jr.

OK Fran, Thanks!!!!!!!!!!! Good to see some people putting their memories up in posts now!!!!!!!!!

:) This post was made on RAMD and with screen name SIGLOW's permission, I cut and pasted it to here. Fred Here's another one for you. In 1963, the Cabs were in the middle of one of their undefeated seasons, and back in those days they were the darlings of the Dream crowd. Well, that year the New York Skyliners had a musical show to die for and the hornline to really pull it off. a lead line that, for the most part, had people that had been playing together for almost a decade. Tommy Martin, Bucky Swan, Gus Wilke, Johnny Guarino, Dom Tambone, JoJo Tadaro, to name a few. Anyway, they put on a musical show that absolutely had the crowd going delirious and frantic. If you can get your hands on a copy of the Fleetwood album for the Dream that year and listen to the Skyliners show, in the exit (remember that portion of the show????), you can just about hear them because the crowd was going ballistic. Well, the Cabs won the show but the Skyliners won the crowd. After retreat, while the Skyliners were passing in review, the crowd came pouring out of the stands and surrounded the Skyliners and wouldn't let them leave the field. Finally, after they were able to get to the locker room (yes, there were locker rooms in Roosevelt Stadium where Corps could get changed before and after a show) to change, Father Wojo and members of Jersey City's finest came busting into the locker room and wanted to arrest members of the Skyliners for (get this) "inciting the crowd to riot". The cops actually had there hands on there side arms. Luckily one of the members in the baritone line, Vincent "Jim" Salamone was a gold shield from Brooklyn and handled the situation and nothing came of the "charges". True story. Siglow :)

No apologies necessary here Pat.......... we're just all remembering Great Bari Lines that's all..... hopefully nobody gets their panties tied in a knot!!

:) This post was made on RAMD and with screen name SIGLOW's permission, I cut and pasted it to here. Fred The first Dream Contest in 1949 was almost rained out. It was finally held in the Jersey City Armory. The only reason why the Reilly Raiders won the show was because their affabled drill instructor, one "Wild" Bill Hooton, instructed them to "march at a half step". You see the dimensions of the armory were shorter then a regulation football field. All of the other competing Corps were banging into walls because they were taking a full 28 inch (or there abouts) step. "Wild" Bill showed his genius that day, otherwise it would have been the New York Skyliners who would have won the first Dream Contest. Siglow :)

AND, please don't forget 2001 (Three-peat) and 2002 (four-peat) CHAMPIONS!!!! oh, BUT i FORGOT....YOU ALREADY knew that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude! March next to him at practice!!!!!!!! Un-believable! Please do me a favor and say that Fred Jr. said to say Hi...Might also tell him 'bout this post!!!!!! is he on here? do you know??

:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: BTW...I miss Pepe Notaro, Butch, Winkie, Joe Genero, and last but not least..Two Good Personal Friends I Marched Hurcs with..Lori Nestor, and Lynn Bobinski and last but not least, Harvey Oderman ......... .......Rest In Peace All!!!!!!!. :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

"It's a different world now. We have better equipment and are much more focused on the little musical nuances that make a big difference, so I do not think that we are comparing apples to apples here. The 60s-mid90s are quite a bit different than now." Back in the 60's-mid-70's there was crap for equipment..guys worrying about getting bad notes ON a horn, OUT of the horn with slides, rotaries,lips etc..... a lot of BS for a horn player to deal with... 70's-mid 90's were spent with arrangers trying to get a lot of flats and sharps etc. into their arrangements... and lots more drill-wise.....then all the sudden the instruments got wonderful but still keyed in G, then 3 valves... and now...viola!!!! we have all the corps swiching to Bb AND NO...... RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT AS LOUD AS G INSRUMENTS! That will probably take a couple years for lines to get used to them! I really think everyone from ALL the different "Eras" understands all of this! But it's a Thread like this that gets everyone together so they can say, Oh SKY 82, Hurcs 69, Cabs 76 Bush 92,MBI, Bucs 05, WOW, STILL have not heard froma Renegade!!!!!!!!!! ANYWAY THIS THREAD BRINGS BACK MEMORIES!!!!!!!!!!!! ENJOY!!!

Booooooo Hisssss!!!!!!!!! ^0^................ Hey Penny, let me do a little talkin to the Brigs management staff and we'll see what kind of offer they can come up with OK????????

OK Penny,it's on DCA All Age Historical OT I Think...don't know they moved it!!! DCA & Alumni Related OT Discussions LINK IS: http://www.drumcorpsplanet.org/forums//ind...8entry1307708

Dude!!!!!!!! I didn't even know Tripper could play Loud!!!!!!!!! He played my Bari once for me in Mine & Hanks room @ a hotel...I just thought he was a Very Good Bari Player...better Bari than Sop IMHO!

Hi Again Penny, I was serious about putting this thread on the senior site! Have you considered it?? I would be glad to start a new thread there...or you can ask one of the moderators to move it and I am sure they would! Up to you my dear!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO! and Vito was not even the loudest of those 4 I listed in 1989 Vito IS VERY LOUD THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to 89 exit Donny....4 Leads!!!!! also ask "Tripper" he marched a parade with Hank and I before!

Bill, Gotta agree here too! those were two GREAT Bari lines especially for volume! I'll take one of your quotes and pervert it for my own use "and they still can be heard" ,.....once the Earth Spins around Yeah they were THAT loud!!!!!!!!!

Frank, You are very right! Cabs always had a strong Bari line as well as always pretty Large! still 'member the 60's too!!!

...but in the good old days...Sky and Hurcs used to wail those horns! What about Phil Vizzi...BLASTISSIMO!!! Donny Donny, were you talkin about Phill Vizzo????? Yikes shoulda heard Him (Vito) Me, RayBoy and Roger (Ohio) in 89 (Only 4 leads)!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to 89 Exit West Side Story..4 leads at BLASTISSIMO!!!

Penny, Awesome pix....why don't you put them on the Add BDJAZZ thread....funny nseeing the BD pix with the Drum Corps at the Beach Tan!!!!!!!!!!! Good seeing you in uniform though Hot!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh puuhhlease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 84 Garfield is one of the best shows/corps EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woops, edit! sorry Dave, didn't notice j/k!!!

Yo Andre! I thought that was Chuck Mangione???

You're gonna get a spankin' Say somethin else will ya??? I am SURE you have some funny storys while in Hurcs, so come on!!!!!!!!!!!

So what you're saying Ron, is that when YOU went to school Kentucky was on WHAT side of the map??? East Coast or West Coast...so much for the "Geography Lesson". In reference to your statement about "Yes, we West Coast boyz DO treat our women well.....especially in The Kingsmen Alumni Corps. And if you have to even ask why I give you 3 good reasons: KINGSMEN COLOR GUARD." I'm really pretty sure that Penny being the Musician that she is...doesn't take THAT OFFER very seriously!!!!!!!!! I also don't think it's very appropriate to be talking trash about your EX girlfriend from NJ!

Ron, I have been a perfect gentleman on this site... ... I HAVE been respectful to Penny! I think she looks absolutely gorgeous and told her so. If you check back to my post...I did say a tasteful bathing suit pic, and that is what she provided! I also don't like the reference to "bray like donkey" with the not too subtle reference of calling us on the East (Right) Coast, ###eS! This site and this thread are for FUN, so please leave the "Politically Correct" post's to kid's will ya????

I hear Ya Keith....I Second the motion.......now the for the Vote, All Those In Favor Say Aye!!!!!!!!!! All those opposed say Naye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^0^ ^0^ I would ASSUME this to be an overwhelming AYE vote but let's see!!!!!!!!!

So come on here folk's NOTHING ELSE????? WHAT ELSE YA GOT????????????????????

Awesome Freakin' picture.........so, you were there! Please take some time and make a post on your personal memories from that day!!! Lot's of people must be wondering what it was like (A Complete Day Competing at "The Dream Contest") !!! Thanks Again! PS...you even marched the "Wet Dream" 79' Like to hear the stories from THAT day too!!!!!!!