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What? Huh? Brain? Puppet

roomer??? WTF? I am so confused. Puppet

"Mikey Can You Hear Me?" Puppet

Brad Junior. Puppet

So instead of March, he vacationed there or he Sailed there ... Puppet

Didn't the Who name a rock opera after him? Puppet

1. horn guy 2. His father is in WDCHOF. (hehehe) The picture wasn't taken too LONG ago 4. You won't find his Bio on the WDCHOF website so you can't find additional clues there (which itself is a clue.) Puppet

If you remove the scales from your eyes you will be able to see. Seven fishes, seven days, seven brothers for seven sisters and the seven dwarfs. You know my daughter after watching Snow White and the ... called me Doc because I wear glasses which is probably why I can't see his face very well either but that doesn't matter much because I probably really don't know who this guy is or the fish individually although I've no doubt had a fork to face meeting with many of their cousins and am I rambling just taking up space here - sure - but it's gotta be the fish. So he's a horn player on vacation in Canada - wonder if it's western or mid west, sure looks like a lake and not the Pacific though it could be the Atlantic but I don't think that either soooooo one of the Great Lakes of which there are (what?) five? I'm picking Erie near Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York and the province of Ontario. , Lake Ontario by New York and the province of Ontario (but nanci said he's not from Cananda. or Lake Michigan bordered by Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, and Indiana. So three lakes, seven fish and oe horn guy with a distinctive sweatshirt whose face we can't really see and a ball cap with a logo we can't distinguish. That's what I got. A Crusader from Rochester, a Cavalier (although I don't think so) Mighty St. Joe's; maybe, an old Poughkeepsie Pacer or a Pittsburgh Rocket. I just don't know. But I sure can fill up a page with a fish story, huh? This could be the one that got away. Puppet

"Canned." I get it. This is what happens when you work for scale. Puppet

While I was looking up diatonic, Duke beat me to the "scales" joke so I'm posting this instead: I've heard of Mud wrestling, jell-o wrestling and even Greco-Roman but I believe he's got those fish pinned. Thank you - I'm here all week! Puppet

OMG - he's got a whole heard of skink! Puppet

Why not? To put it in Deep South parlance: "We're not going to get any more milk out of the Hy and Carmen cow." Puppet

More than anything I try to remember that we can't go back. We can remember Carmen's loss of control, our own inability to remember when to turn on that dime to face the stands, when to play really soft in the soft passages - but we can't not remember to be who we were taught to be ourselves. That it what is so awesome about being a human being.... Puppet

What he said. Really. Puppet

You know, maybe I've been away too long or maybe I'm too close to the most recent post but my objectivity is still intact. Recently a good friend and and marching buddy came into a bit of a discourse. We both grew up under the direction of Carmen Cluna. I will say unabashedly that having him "direct" a major part of my teenage years, was indicative of how I was to think about problem solving and how also to think on both sides of every issue. His ability to be honest to us and honest to himself was a very, very good role to follow. This is why although I have so many personal stories about Carmen (let me put it this way - I was kicked out by Carmen for a various different reasons a number of 8 times in 8 years.) But he instigated in me a gene of independence that allowed me to grow as a human and excel as a person who can do more. Hy did that, too but he never threw it in your face. So - when an old friend came down on me about wha tDCI is doing now I responded with this: You missed my point. Sorry but I was talking about how much I hate synthesizers. The examples I used were what I used to feel when I saw shows without all the stuff you pretty much hate. I personally think the last great junior corps was Star Of Indiana 1993. I don't care about Bb horns or the pit. Didn't you realize that Drum Corps just like the size and power of our micro processors was going to change over the course of 35 years? No, I do not like what DCI is doing! No, I do not like that there are so few inner city Drum Corps playing on the National Level. No, I don't like that those who do march have to pay dues give up thousands of dollars a summer to sleep on Gym floors and eat from second class food trucks. No, I don't like that these same young people suffer bad knees, bad feet, bad legs, shoulders and back long before their time because of a system that does not care about them. It's bad. Really bad. I have spent my time as a part time lobby guy for Drum Corps and the people who march in them. I have written passionate letters to The past 3 Presidents and the Education Advisors with many State Senators, Governors and Mayors and City Councilmen as co-signees. I was getting somewhere early last year when the economy tanked. You know how much instruments and teachers and staff and Real Estate, busses, and uniforms cost? Start up for a new Drum Corps - a small one who could possibly reach National Status in a few years is well over $2,000.000! Then there's recruitment and attrition and turning our young people into people who don't want to kill each other or looking for their next 'ho, or how to steal instead of work, or having them get parents who care (like ours, remember?) That's what it is - we have to change the world. Change our world. I tried it with my son. It worked. He sings, he plays jazz on the weekend and he teaches. Literally one in a million. He's 37 and it took him a long time to find his way. My daughter is 18 this year. She runs world class track, plays soccor and is going to Rhode Island School Of Design next year to study fashion design. I have taken her to shows and she once expressed that she could "do that" after seeing 'Star's final season. My point is this: Even if we change the world, get the funding, knock off the despicable things the current music, entertainment, media and educational systems are doing (not to mention iPhones, iPods, Computer games and all the distracting electronic outlets available, their world will not be what our world was. And Drum Corps as we knew it will never return. It can't. Quite honestly, I wouldn't want my world to return to 1972. I'm 60 years old and have seen recently my body turn against me for the first time. I am going to continue to embrace change, progress and continue to compete and beat those uppity youngsters who think they can out think me just because they had gadgets. But in my business technology always takes second place to the idea. Think about it - even Carmen and Hy and Eric knew it was the idea first then kick the stones out of the execution. I can hate what's going on with how Drum Corps is run but I will always stand with the young people who do it. And I can wait for the time when I see a show and say to myself: ####, I wish Carmen had thought of that." Because if he thought he could get away with it at the time; the different tempos, backwards marching ... any of it. We would have done it - and liked it - and we would have kicked it, too. You know that's word. I thought I might see more stuff about Carmen and Hy (their first and I think only appearance here seems to have been usurped by what I might consider to be a silly sophomoric back and forth from people who have little sense of history.) Those who know, know. Those who don't, won't understand what Carmen and Hy gave to us. I could name the corps - again from my first post, there would have been dozens. But for me, Carmen could be a task master, he could be a person you as a teenager could "fear" but only if you feared success. I was a little kid but I speak in a larger voice than my mere stature because Carmen gave me a voice and because when I was on the field he trusted me. More importantly he trusted all of us. We would do what he directed us to and as I said to my good old friend above, we would have executed any idea he came up with - and we did. We ran first, we spun flags first, we had the among the first tympani line, we used props, smoke bombs, and knife fights. Oh my, would we have followed him/them into the pit of DCI - heh, ask anyone of the time: 1972 we would have placed in the finals! For sure. We never had a big win - but we competed and ask those we competed against; we were always "right there." Our short time was made important in the history of junior Drum Corps by the men who were to become legend. Oh, who the heck is Brooklyn Mario? He can write? Puppet

Not because of Hy or Carmen or Johnny Oddo and Jim Drost or because we all thought of them as our true sister corps - no St. Ignatius was not the best ever - but during the seventies yep! And these folks are not talking about $5 foot longs ... Puppet

Well, since the cat's out of the bag, let me share some moments: Here's my favorite picture of Hy - and I've got lots. I remember quite vividly the day I met both Hy and Carmen. Friday night at St. Joseph Patron Cadets' rehearsal hall ( a gym, really) I'd decided to try to join because I'd seen them the season before and didn't want to continue to place 16th in competitions that only fielded 12 corps - if you know what i mean. So I walk in and was was instantly struck by the comportment of the young folks. I went to a table on the side and asked one of the guys there who it was I had to speak to about joining. His name was Joe Luginsland and the first thing he asked me what I played so I told him French Horn and the second thing he said was "Oh, boy! Hy's gonna love you!" I didn't know anything so I just kinda grinned. He grabbed me by the arm and yanked me over to this huge guy and introduced me. So you play French Horn, eh? How long? I told him a couple of seasons and that I went to Music & Art High School and played Horn in "F" too. "Got a good ear?" Pretty good, I told him and added I can sing, too - I didn't know what I was saying, really. So he walks over to where they had the chairs set up in an arc, grabs a horn and hands it to me. Play the scale. I did and he cocks his head and says: "Now play it like you mean it." So I play like this languid long tone scale and he grabs the horn out of my hand and points the bell in my face and blows a scale so loud my ears flap back against my head then - now you have to understand that I'm 5' 8" 125 pounds - hands me the horn and says quietly (though I couldn't be sure because I may have been deaf) "Play it like you mean it." He wasn't being mean or anything and I could see that so I puffed up as big as I could not noticing that now there was a crowd around us like the whole horn section (all 24 of them - the best horn line I'd ever heard not on a Fleetwood recording although that would change pretty darn quick) and I blew a very fast quarter note scale louder than I'd ever played in my life - up to then, mind you. And this angelic like smile spread across his face and he said: "Well, if you can march and do that, I think we can get you in. Let's go talk to Carmen." And that's another story. Puppet

I really am going to bed - way past my bed time. but I had to share this because this photo sure gets around. check your PM. Puppet

Had to have been HB. These two great men were part of the Brooklyn legacy begun I must say by Andy DiOrio Sr. who you must know we lost this week. The corps these guys (one a Baritone the other French Horn) had a hand in must number in the dozens! They touched the lives and helped mold the characters of thousands of young men and women of every ethnic and economic background during their altogether short lives. Their stories are legend. I hope to tell a few. As you know I love to write - it will be hard to hold back. Puppet And I must add before I retire, that in my short time here in Whoville I have seen many great shots of some awesome folks all pretty big files. I will suggest that this little shot (and it is tiny I assure you) like the two men in it, will create a storm response ... I look forward to that as much - if not more than Nanci. Good night.

What he said. Puppet

O.... M ..... G.....!!!!!! I think I know these guys! Puppet

Hmmm ... seems to me that during our Midwest tour us guys from the Apple were a tasty treat for some of the girls of the Troopers and Anaheim. That was some tour! 1969 The Kilties were off the hook - I think they won like 8 or 9 shows! We just happened to be at the one in Racine that year where the Troopers won. What a show that was. Anaihem, Blue Stars, Des Plaines & Santa Clara Vanguard. What a memorable Saturday first week in August and the season wasn't near finished yet! Loved it! Puppet http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa24/gr.../At17Puppet.jpg

Ay! 'Tis true, that. Puppet

Am I good or what!? Sorry Don! Don't have nary a blemish. Puppet