right...but a lot of corps enter into downward spirals, i have pointed out one in particular, they didn't go off the deep end, they actually made top 12 this year. as for pio, i believe it was mentioned on another thread that roman could indeed bring in a top 12 caliber staff but it seems he would rather keep pio around than risk another folded corps. of course members care about placement, they are competing, and staff cares about placement for their resumes but in the end the admin staff of the corps makes the decisions and the decision they seem to be making is one of keeping them around for whomever they can serve and not for placing well.