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ThirdValvesAreForWimps

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  1. 1988 was certainly a big year for change in drum corps but I look back to my rookie year of 1980 with The Cavaliers as another significant year which set up some future changes. I remember seeing Santa Clara Vanguard for the first time in 1980 in Allentown and we heard SCV was having an "off" year. Well, they weren't! Their brass line and drum line were outstanding as usual but their drill was so asymmetrical and different for its time that we wondered how the judges could even evaluate it fairly. I recall watching SCV that night and telling my brother Cavaliers, "Someday, everyone will have drills like that."
  2. Kamarag is right: The old time standard which extended into the 1980s was 11 minutes 30 seconds to 13 minutes. The gun went off at 11:30 signaling all execution judges to stop their work and only general effect judging took place during the remaining minute and a half.
  3. This doesn't just apply to the 2014 Madison Scouts: Too many corps are "quoting phrases" instead of actually playing a piece of music. Entire shows are now like listening to the painful closing moments of the 1978 Blue Stars who put four counts here of Malaga, eight bars there from Tiger of San Pedro, and just dirty schlock to the end.
  4. While I agree with many of the fine submissions on this thread, I want to add a few more. 1974 Muchachos 1975 Madison Scouts 1977 Cavaliers 1978 Bridgemen 1979 Guardsmen 1980 Blue Devils 1982 Sky Ryders 1988 Madison Scouts 1992 Cavaliers
  5. 1980 Cavaliers: DCI Canada, Hamilton ON 1980 Cavaliers - Verdun Stadium, Quebec 1980 Cavaliers - DCI Finals, Birmingham AL 1981 Cavaliers, Drums Along the Rockies, Denver CO 1981 Cavaliers, DCM Finals, DeKalb IL 1981 Cavaliers - US Open Finals, Columbus OH 1981 Cavaliers - DCI Finals, Montreal, during the step-over in the closer. I could barely hear myself play for all the crowd noise. 1982 Cavaliers - Columbus OH 1983 Cavaliers - DCM Finals, DeKalb IL
  6. The talent level of the average brass player in the 1980s was terrific; I know because that's when I marched. However, there are two differences with respect to talent today: (1) First, the worst players on today's brass lines are better than the worst players on a 1980s brass line. (2) Second, the best players in the 1980s were better than today's best players. As proof, I offer the soloists from the 1970s and 1980s against today's soloists. I'm sorry, but the quality just isn't there today and this is predictable as modern band directors are more concerned with self-esteem instead of developing musical superstars. Today's high school bands, both indoor and outdoor, have substandard soloists and this translates to drum corps. Don't get me wrong and don't misquote me either: The modern brass sections are terrific and the musical arrangements are generally better than they were thirty years ago. I still enjoy seeing a live show but to compare today's brass lines to those of the 1970s and 1980s is impossible due to disparate instrumentation and, well, the lack of volume. What's missing today is the raw emotion associated with stand-shaking volume! It "got" an audience and hooked them forever because it was different than any high school or college band. Today, well, things aren't all that different and I think this is what frustrates older fans to some extent. The other difference is physicality of the players and I fundamentally disagree with those who believe we who marched in the two-valve era were either out of shape or somehow less physically capable than today's players. We didn't spend our lives in front of video games. We went outside, played, ran, and got in shape naturally. Were our lungs better? Yes. Did we have to jazz run? No -- and I'm glad. We didn't need microphones either. Just sayin'. I got to play with as well as stand in front of the best brass lines in bugle history in competitive situation and I wish I could take all of today's players and younger fans on a time warp so you could hear for yourselves what those 1970s-1980s brass lines sounded like. Contrary to the claims of some, those brass lines did not sound crass, "like butt," nor was anything "overblown." Those brass sections were loud -- extremely loud -- but the ensemble sound was very transparent and every part could be clearly heard. A modern Bb/F line is also very good, transparent, and every part can be heard, but most lines I hear are mellophone-heavy and trumpet-light. The volume isn't there -- and that's okay. It is what it is.
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