Chief Guns
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I miss the OG BD fans from this forum. Plan9, 84BDSOP, BDCorno to name a few. We had to unite against the ABBD crowd during that 2008-2013 time frame. How we all didn't get banned is beyond me lol. We had some Ali vs Frazier bouts with the ABBD crowd.
Hope they are all doing well.
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1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said:
What year was Dada?
Dada/Cabaret Voltaire was 2012.
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1 hour ago, saxfreq1128 said:
Found a reddit post about it. Nuts 😭
Just read it as well. Wow!
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17 minutes ago, saxfreq1128 said:
fighting for our lives DAILY
mirrors and lawn chairs will never know how hard we fought for their honor …
Not to mention how many times we had to guard and protect that "House and Home" in 2011.
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39 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
BD definitely on several occasions. not so much others. VK of course universally loved. but BD 08-13 was generally under loved by many fans period, and Allentown was no exception. At least as i could tell there was no serious hostility like booing ( except maybe when scores announced), but the standing at the end was people strecthing or getting up to leave, and not because the shows wowed them. Feilliniesque was like the BD reactions of years gone by ( aka 80's and 90's)
Oh boy! This forum from 2008-2013. For us BD fans, it was like the 300 against the Persians.
Good times.
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46 minutes ago, DWW11 said:
The ABBD/Cali corps animosity in Allentown was real, at least in the 70s-90s. The Crossmen and Cadets fans in the early days had a real chip on their shoulders because they felt BD and SCV would just come onto their turf and try to show them up.
It seems to be the opposite out here in California.
When we get Midwest/East Coast corps come out here, we treat them like rock stars as we are so appreciative that they made the trip out west.
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1 hour ago, KVG_DC said:
I dunno that I saw outright 'not cheering for them' but a mixture of 'hometown homerism' and 'unfamiliarity with their show' could be read that way.
I remember shows in Indiana we went to when we were kids, the midwest corps had their fans and alumni that would cheer louder for their homerisms, but recognized the performance levels and cheered for those moments from the West corps too. This like mid 80s to early 90s. I recall Tommy getting a somewhat tepid response in 1990 in Ft. Wayne. But the general buzz was more "the Blue Devils came and we didn't get jazz?" sort of disappointment than any hostility about being the Blue Devils
Annapolis has been my go to as of late and BD hasn't done that show when I've gone. It's a Cadets show and crowd for the most part historically. SCV got lots of praise in 2016 with Force of Nature. This year Mandarins sort of caught them all off guard. I don't think a lot of the crowd were 'flo watchers' and had no idea what was coming. So there wasn't much buzz taking the field. But by "Take me to Church" there were people grooving in the stands with them. And the spinners got an "oh my god...this is insane...i can't belive they're doing this" reaction around me and nods of appreciation as to what they were seeing.
But nothing like when Cadets came on of course and they were roaring and buzzing for their own.Yea that's in line with what my son said.
He said initially the crowd seemed to be sitting on their hands, but by the end, the crowd was on their feet. Almost as if the Mandarins earned their respect and approval.
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7 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
Allentown gave it a rousing ovation, at a time when the crowd there was continuously blasted as being ABBD
Outside of finals this past summer, I have never attended a DCI show east of the Mississippi River. Was there any truth to crowds back east purposely not rooting for BD or corps from out west in general?
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10 minutes ago, DWW11 said:
I took a friend that night. This was her intro to drum corps. Told her she shouldn’t count on ever seeing a better show.
I think Allentown was the night BD put in the finals closer if i remember correctly. I am envy of all of you that was there to witness it.
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On 3/17/2024 at 5:54 AM, Terri Schehr said:
I first saw it on a cow pasture that they held the show at in Metamora, Illinois. I told Jim that no one is beating that.
Wouldn't shock me if Betsy the Cow and the rest of the herd stopped grazing to give BD a standing ovation lol.
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55 minutes ago, Dmlkmen said:
2014 should be in consideration by fans as one of DCI’s most entertaining Top 12’s of all time. It was a great year.
1992 and 1989 are probably in the conversation of being the benchmark years for most entertaining Top 12. 2008 comes close, as the Top 7 that year were on fire at Finals. But 2014 in my opinion is the most entertaining 12th place to 1st of the 21st century.
As 2014 relates to the Blue Devils, I think of I where they came from in the two shows prior to Fellinisque, and what was missing. 2012 and 2013, although brilliant in terms of the visual and music along with execution, were not shows that ultimately were embraced by a large audience. Universal love, less likely.
You can sense the fresh approach BD took in 2014, and in hindsight, see how their designers must have set out to start of a new era. They seemed to get back to a showmanship approach that could really connect to the audience. They have Gordon Goodwin create a piece for them. They add in more broadway tunes, specifically from Chicago. And ultimately the overall show with its style and story of a film being created from start to finish, brings back a theme that an audience can relate to. And to innovate by building the show organically, piece by piece…. What you may start out with in June, becomes layer upon Iayer of new ideas as tour progresses. This became, I think, the greatest innovation of that show.
The same could be said for their competition that year. Carolina Crown, SCV, Phantom, and of course, Bluecoats, equally impressing by adding electronics to their show in a way we had never seen before.
2014 was a year many corps were shifting into a new identity. But doing so in a very entertaining way.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I think Gordon Goodwin's son marched with BD I think 2014-2015???
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2 minutes ago, lawdn said:
My impression was that the chemistry that corps had was unsurpassed, in the sense of everyone buying in completely to the concept and the staff and MMs figuring out how to perform both as a single organism and as individuals empowered and with the responsibility to create specific characters and personal moments within the larger show context. While MM technical skills might be argued to have improved over the last decade, that chemistry is always the gold standard for any corps.
Well said brother!
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10 minutes ago, theonlyfizzle said:
Happy 99.65! This is for the performers who left no stone unturn in 2014.. truly remarkable kids.
Kids indeed. Remember that season Brandon Olander was in his first year with BD, at 16 years old! Unbelievable.
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3 minutes ago, lawdn said:
Darn you! I saw this late and had to rewatch Felliniesque (again) and stayed up too late. A sublime show and such a high standard of performance. I can see how some visual skills and aspects have advanced in the activity over the past 10 years but remembering back to what it was for its time, it was breathtaking then and still is today. I almost cried seeing the last 2 of their performances on finals night knowing I would never again see it live. It was that beautiful and special for me.
I only saw them twice that year, in Glendora and Riverside in late June when the show was still bare bones. Never in my life have i heard so many Oohs and Ahhs from a crowd. All of us in attendance, I don't think we knew at that moment we was witnessing greatness.
The fact that we hadn't even made it to Independence Day, and the season was over regarding who would win was just insane.
Felliniesque live in person was something to behold.
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1 hour ago, Jurassic Lancer said:
Do we have a winner yet?
Not gonna lie, I am shocked a BD show post 2007 made it to the final rd!
The ABBD crowd must still be in hibernation for the winter. Lol.
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18 minutes ago, Vuitton said:
but none of them are going to be around in 20 years.
Guess I will be rooting for George Jetson and Orbit City Drum Corps to win it all in 2044.
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Can't believe it's been a decade already, but here's to the greatest on field performance I have ever seen live. Felliniesque is an absolute masterpiece. To quote the fan sitting near me at the Glendora show in SoCal that year............"I hope DCI has an Alien Drum Corps from outer space competing at Finals this year, because nothing on this planet is beating that!"
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2 hours ago, Lance said:
Yeah, that was rough.
And 2000 was my favorite top 3 I ever saw live at finals. Went to 98,99,00, and 07...thanks again for that, @JohnD!. That top 3 in 2000 was a riot. The only other top 3 that compares for me is 93, and I never got to see any of those corps live, just on the PBS broadcast.
Unfortunately for me, 2023 was my first DCI Finals, so that would be my favorite top three live lol.
But if I was able to add my favorite regardless of live viewing or not, I gotta go with 2003.
BD- Phenomenon of Cool
Cavies- Spin Cycle
Cadets- My Favorite Things
That's a filthy top three that I would put up against any year.
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On 3/7/2024 at 12:53 PM, Lance said:
Their movement was breathtaking to watch live at finals, and we're talking about a top 2 that was also cooking pretty good with the Cadets and Cavies.
Cadets and Cavies were amazing! I think the top 12 in 2000 as a whole is a very underrated.
What's interesting is as much as the Cadets and Cavies were slaying it, looking at the finals recaps, BD was going blow for blow with the both of them, including taking a couple of captions, and some 2nd's in other captions. It was the 6th place finish in drums that did them in. No doubt the "Incident" played a part in that. There is no way BDs drummers weren't shaken up and affected by that.
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41 minutes ago, Quad Aces said:
What happened to Poppycock? Honest question - I always enjoyed the witty posts.
In memory of Poppy on DCP...........
"Those naughty little Devils did it again."
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On 3/10/2024 at 9:30 AM, crownisking said:
I’m sure most posters will place Crown fourth (or lower) in the predictions thread. But I’ll be honest and say last season was significantly more enjoyable for me because I tuned all that stuff out for the most part. I can only speak for myself but obsessing over scores, placements and spreads kinda kills the fun.
4th place in the annual predictions thread is reserved for BD.
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Ten Year Anniversary Of Felliniesque
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Amen Brother!
Say it louder for the people in the back!