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    The whistleblowers and survivors of abuse in this industry are tired...

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    35 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

    I doubt it.  Drum Corps isn't special and immune from the realities of the world.  Sexual violence is sickeningly common in American life in general:

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html

    "Sexual violence is common. Over half of women and almost 1 in 3 men have experienced sexual violence involving physical contact during their lifetimes."

    This is only based on what is reported, let alone the unknown unreported (it's vast).  But let's put that aside and go with the data for now.  So to math out some of this data (i'm open to any corrections):

    Just shy of 42% of the USA population has experienced sexual violence in their lifetime based on that stat.  A little over 14% have experienced rape.  80% of reported rapes happen before the age of 25. 

    Choose any random 5 drum corps members.  2 of them already have, or are likely to, suffer sexual violence in their lifetimes.  Now choose 7.  One of them is likely to suffer rape in their lifetime. 

    Choose any corps.  Current capacity of 150 = 63 will suffer sexual violence in their lifetime.  21 of them will potentially suffer rape their lifetime.  17 of those people will experience it before the age of 25 according to the cdc page. 

    I don't know the actual membership numbers, but let's say 15 of the corps are at max capacity.  That's 945 people marching this summer that will or already have in their lives suffered sexual assault.  315 of them will or already have in their lives suffered rape.  255 of them will experience it before the age of 25.

    Extrapolate it back over the multiple decades many of these corps have existed, I'd be shocked if there is any corps where this has never happened.  And even if a modern corps does everything absolutely right to protect their members, it will still happen.  The sickness is in society at large.  We'll never change what is commonplace by pretending it is exception. 

     

    I know unwanted sexual assault/touching/advances/crimes have been going on in Drum Corps since my first year marching - 1971.  I heard gallows humor about it that I didn’t understand at the time as I was young. What I will dispute is that it occurred in every corps at all times. It did not in the Anaheim Kingsmen the years that I marched (1971 - 1974). How can I say this? I knew and have kept up with everyone from those days still alive.* The caveat is if it actually did happen both parties kept it hidden from the rest of us. I doubt it as we know all the other dirty laundry in our lives as we’ve been friends for over 50 years. We were led by a Naval Officer who instilled in us respect and duty.

    Dont want to get into CDC stats as that would lead (for me) down the road to politics which isn’t relevant in this forum.

    I appreciate your thoughtful response. Thank you!

    Blue Devils 2024 right before the storm

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    10 minutes ago, Chief Guns said:

    We should be about a month out before the Final Boss blesses us with their show title. 

    Let the quest for the four-peat begin!!

    Four is a foregone conclusion in my mind. They have the same staff and won in 2023 with a young corps. The only thing to wonder about in April 2024 is will they make it to five. 

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    Meet the 2024 Madison Scouts Color Guard Team

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    3 minutes ago, contraguard05 said:

    By hiring instructors to stay on all summer, you preclude them from lines of work that are NOT teaching. This is particularly challenging for color guard people, as we do not teach it as a class for any real compensation outside of Texas and a few select suburbs. I can't think of an office job that would give me the whole summer off to go on tour, nor could I imagine being away from my young children for that long.

    Regarding your comment about the lack of cohesion, that is by design. Multiple lines in music call for multiple visual elements, so 15 minutes of unison would not live up to the depth and complexity of what we are hearing. That would also make the big moments far less impactful because we'd already seen so much unison. The flag hit from SCV 2017 is a great example of this.

    Thank you, Contraguard05.  I appreciate your reply!  

    Meet the 2024 Madison Scouts Color Guard Team

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    8 hours ago, RContra said:

    How many times do people have to explain this? These people aren’t all doing massive stints on the road. Most of the great instructors have other commitments in the summer time. The larger staffs allow coverage all summer by tagging in and out. 

    Yes, yes, I've heard the explanation.  Mr. Ream kindly explained to me how teaching in modern Drum Corps works.  I "get it" but don't understand why. Instead of paying stipends to 17 people how about hiring 1 or 2 full-time to stay all summer?  Which one of the 17 do you listen to.  Too many cooks in the kitchen. 

    I see a lack of cohesion in color guard.  This one's throwing a quadruple, that one's doing pirouettes, while the other is doing flag work all at the same time.  It's as if they're independent of each other.  (Preface:  Boston is the exception and sometimes Blue Devils).  Makes me wonder if the revolving door of instructors is the cause. 

    I do love modern drum corps it just puzzles me sometimes. 

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    DrumCorpsAF Minisode – The Cadets are Dead

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    1 hour ago, DCP NewsFeed said:

    The gang’s all here as Cadets alumnus Rick Wygant joins Nikki, Jeff Ream, and Fossil Chops to talk about the recent bankruptcy declaration by DCI’s oldest corps, The Cadets. We want to hear YOUR voices – call our submission line at 913-390-3190 and leave your best 2-3 minute take. You can use your real name […]

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    So who now is the oldest active corps?  Boston, Cavaliers, someone else? 

    Cadets and bankruptcy

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    6 hours ago, jmc5682 said:

    I do not see how that was a flex.  It was with another guy.  I deleted the post anyway as I should have considered some people could be triggered.  

    It can be a tough crowd here sometimes.  I did not take your story as a "flex" either. 

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    Cadets and bankruptcy

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    25 minutes ago, totaleefree said:

    They figure that the Blue Devils can spend and get good lawyers,  So it would be a waste of their time

    The Boy Scouts had money, lots of money, good legal counsel, and got whacked into bankruptcy with a 2.4 billion dollar judgment. The same could happen to any corps including DCI as there are parallels. 

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