JeromeyBush Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I'm with you on the Kings...heh...remember when Frank D. took our Olds Ultratones away and made the leads all play the new DEG's? yuck! that lasted one season. then it was GIVE ME MY HORN BACK!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah,THAT worked. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonedude414 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Do not get Yamahas. They are plain nasty and none of the valves work, even on brand new ones. I hate Yamahas. Do not get them. They suck. <**> Kanstuls are awesome. The tone is so pure. Best Baritone I've played. They are a little expensive, but they're worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontwan2know Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 The Yamaha bari sounds less tromboney because it's a hybrid instrument. It's basically an attempt to produce a euph sound in a baritone package. In marching brass, you need two distinct baritone and euph voices. The large bore also presents playability problems. You can't take a bore that large and then wrap it that tightly without having problems with the horns being stuffy, and most people who play Yamaha baris agree that they're *very* stuffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphaba01 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 The Yamaha bari sounds less tromboney because it's a hybrid instrument. It's basically an attempt to produce a euph sound in a baritone package. In marching brass, you need two distinct baritone and euph voices. The large bore also presents playability problems. You can't take a bore that large and then wrap it that tightly without having problems with the horns being stuffy, and most people who play Yamaha baris agree that they're *very* stuffy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Best Baritones": Speaking ONLY for "G" Baritone bugles, present day, there are two distinct classes: 1. Kanstul 2. Everybody else. Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimelabari Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I know when I was in Blue Devils in the 80's we used King 2 value....and over the many many years they have won the most brass titles of any DCI corps. I would agree with blueblood.....the horn helps but it is the talent that teaches the line and the great brass book that Wayne puts our every year. Last year the Renegades made a switch to Kanstul for the horn line and the staff is happy with their choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baritone Tammy Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 "Best Baritones":Speaking ONLY for "G" Baritone bugles, present day, there are two distinct classes: 1. Kanstul 2. Everybody else. Elphaba <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would have agreed with you until November 27th. I had the opportunity to play on a quite new Dynasty and I actually loved it. The intonation was a million times better then the Kanstul I have played for the last 4 years. Coming from a Kanstul fan.......... this means something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisTS Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I would have agreed with you until November 27th. I had the opportunity to play on a quite new Dynasty and I actually loved it. The intonation was a million times better then the Kanstul I have played for the last 4 years.Coming from a Kanstul fan.......... this means something. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have heard that the new Dynasty baritone is quite an improvement over (or at least different than) the ones they've been making the past couple of years. I haven't gotten a chance to play one yet, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabsbaritone Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hey I love my Yammy... except for some minor valve sticking problems that have been fixed by putting in new valve guides and using a Syntetic oil... I love the way it plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fever_Euph_Beast Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 i've played on yamaha, kanstul, dynasty, and crappy student model kings. i can tell you if you band director goes for king it had #### well better be their ultimate marching brass and nothing else. i like kanstul, good tone quality, good intonation, especially with baris and all not tuning. dynasy, not much to say, not bad, not great, decent, i played one all last summer. the only real beef i had with it was that bracing on the third valve slide. i havent had the chance to play on the new ones yet. now yamaha. i dont know what it is about them, i just dont like the horn. i have nothing to back that up with so i'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euph_Dolphin Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I'm with him, played the same king, it was crapp and a half, if you want quailty i'd say go for Kanstul, but if price goes, hit up Dynasty, cheep and decent. not yamaha....over priced, small, and cant take a beating, unlike dynastys which are built like freakin tanks.......But im just a euph player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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