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How in Sam's name is asking a simple question on how a corps' show and tell went "flame baiting"? MY are we sensitive around here! So....I took about 3 months off of reading this site. Remind me in another 3 months NOT to do it again. I forgot how ludicrous people on here are!

Errr...um....NO! I've said it before as have others. There is this thing called "regional touring status" that applies to both divisions. You mentioned Academy. Uhhh...did you SEE their tour schedule last year? I believe their number of performances were in the teens. MYTH BUSTER #1: Touring has NOTHING to do with what Division a corps competes in.

Great point, which is why I suggested the idea of starting up smaller community circuits to host corps that are not among the elite. I agree that there is no reason to limit the entire activity to the elite. Certainly give the kids who aspire to be in an elite World or Open class DCI drum corps a place to train. But lets limit DCI TOO the elite. Otherwise, it won't sell.

You are not providing solutions. You are providing complaints and negativity. Just being honest.

And that is the way the activity has to be if it is going to profit. It may not be attractive to you but that's the way business works. DCI needs to be exclusive to the elite in this stage of the game or DCI won't sell tickets and merch.

You need to search out the threads upon threads upon threads upon threads of why DCI WISELY made not only the consolidation of Division II/III but the name change as well.

You missed a LOT!

Uhh... no. There are still over 20 corps in World Class and if you saw who was out of semis in 07, you would realize that it's actually getting harder to make semis.

I think they would have had to anyway...even if they were comeing back for 08.

Actually, he's right. DCI is supposed to be about the elite. It can't be that if there are corps that are no more than an average high school or even in some cases Jr. High school band. That doesn't mean those corps can't exist. I think what it's time for is for some local community circuits to start up for small "little league" (so to speak) type of drum corps to compete on a fair (for them) playing field separate from DCI and let DCI be for the very best. Then, if some of those corps build their corps AND their business to an appropriate level, they can be approved for DCI.

Long Long LONG LONG LONNNNG overdue!!!!

Mmm...now THAT I'm not sure about. I think there will actually be more pressure to become "full" just to keep up with the top corps...and I kind of think that will be a good thing.

Yeah, there are already several threads on this. click to page 2 or 3 and you will see several. But yes, I'm with you. I hope it helps with all those things you just mentioned...and I believe it will!

Absolutely! But of course, the old school whinning purists will always be near by to tell us all how bad the current state of the activity is. It wouldn't be DCP (Disgruntled Complainer's Planet) if they didn't.

I hate to be rude but I'm sorry, what you have just said here is absolutely stupid. Open Class corps breaking away from DCI would be suicide. Open Class is in the process of breaking new ground in the activity with the new plans being implimented for the new division....which ARE in fact being implemented BY DCI! Obviously DCI is trying to fix the problem or they wouldn't be wasting their time making the changes. Why don't you wait and see how the changes they are making pan out before spewing your negative garbage about DCI and the demise of DCI Open Class drum corps?

Ooooohhh. Not a bad idea!

An irrelevant question. Not going to even entertain it. Great! Looking forward to seeing it!

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What you have just provided here (save Troopers...so far) IS the EVIDENCE that they SHOULD have done it. Again, you are trying to use poor examples of corps who completely failed as evidence that regional touring is NOT a good option because they didn't choose to do it? Where is thelogic in that? You are looking at the whole thing backwards. What you should be doing is looking at the corps you just listed (save Troopers...so far) and saying "shoot, those corps failed...maybe they SHOULD have tried regional touring". Let me spin this a different way for you. Magic was forced into Division 2, but still toured fully every season. Gone. Kiwanis toured fully. Gone. Southwind toured fully. Inactive. Capital Regiment toured fully. Inactive. These corps = bad examples of what a corps should or should not do because they financially failed. Look closely at what they did or did not do and DO THE OPPOSITE!

OK. Maybe because they haven't figured it out yet. Maybe because they fear losing "status" (even though I think that would be a lame excuse). Maybe because SOME of them (not all of them but the ones who should) don't have enough business sense to do what is right. See my last statement. Though in their case...as I said before...it may be too late.

Exactly. What he ^ said is absolutely 100% correct. So maybe it's time for us to petition some of the corps directors in Open Class to present use of Open Class in the broadcast as an option.

I understand what you are saying and it does make sense.

Dude, we addressed this on another thread in the Open Class forum (directed it at you in fact). Academy IS a "regional/partial touring corps" Someone even posted their total number of shows from last year and where they went during the course of the season to prove it. My point is that you SHOULD be using them as an example...even though you aren't.

I believe this is the correct # of regional/partial touring corps (someone correct me if I make a mistake or leave someone out). Regional/partial touring corps in World Class Academy Pacific Crest Mandarins Regional/partial touring corps in World Class All of them. The difference between DCI and DCA is that DCI will most likely always have at least SOME full touring corps. Those corps (even if it were eventually only limited to the top 5 in World Class) would be the "headliners" (so to speak) at all shows and as long as DCI can creatively schedule one or two of those at each show, the rest could stay close to home and if they played it right, it may even cause a lot of shows to have more participating corps beause DCI would not have to always chase everyone down to find out who is close enough to show up to a local show.

That's exactly my point. And that option IS available. Corps just aren't taking advantage of the option while they have the chance and are waiting until it is too late and folding is all they have left. Right, and I'm saying that's where I think they are making their mistake.