Stick Stack

Although I don't believe there is such a thing for official rankings. However, that site is the best one I've heard of for unofficial rankings. There should be a site that shows contest scores for contests across the country. The information is really scattered on the internet, but it's pretty much all there. If someone could combine it into one site, it would be sweet.

Perhaps at a nudist colony drum and bugle corps. I've never heard nor seen of one.

Yup, it's true. And they're both on the main cam. But most of the time people are so blown away by the GE that they don't even notice. Kinda like the judges! B)

Cavaliers 2002- Multiple sails in a triangle feature in the opener. One flag drop in the ballad. One rifle break in the opener. A drumstick dropped. One of the guys forgot the Fight Club dance. The guy who was thrown in the air was caught lopsided and sidekicked someone in the face. That being said... This is a perfect case of two things. One-There is no way a judge would catch ALL of these things. This was caught from watching one show over 50 times with multiple vantage points, some being much closer than the press box or wherever the judge is. Two- Design is weighed heavier than execution. I shouldn't even say that, that is over generalizing it. I can say this with certainty. A few drops will not make or break a show. Bad design or more truthfully a lack of excellent design will make or break a show. And, to be completely honest, a few drops (2 or 3) in a drum corps show is an EXTREMELY good performance. It takes almost the entire season for most guards to perfect what they are doing so that during a show, only a few flukes happen. The point is- They happen. And judges take this into account. A guard with no drops in a show generally would make me think they aren't challenged enough.

Why were they talking about the Cavaliers on the Madison Scouts forum? ...oh. I get it... In all seriousness though... The Madison Scouts seem to have been finding the right balance between old and new, trying to reinvent themselves since they got rid of the old uniforms. Every year they have been tryin to find something that sticks, and I feel like they haven't quite found it yet. To me, I think the whole keeping the old and bringing in the new is pretty much their mission statement now. So what will the show hold? Probably just the best show the staff can design, with entertainment as the goal, just as Madison has pretty much always tried to do. I hope they find their balance that makes both new and old school crowds go crazy together.

What's a military turn?

Removed for realizing that this is an older thread than I realized.

Stonehenge 98 Cadets flag color change- And then they had to run out to that corner to get them during the show! And then run back to the center of the field to spin them! It's an interesting transition, with a ton of booking it moments.

I had to read that twice! I was skimming through it and for a second I thought you meant your younger sister marched Cavaliers!

As long as it's not for experimental purposes only...I vote for Crown. Love their hornline and their guard, and they did have a drumline, so that was good. But I also like Madison.

Oh I totally know what you're talking about! That moment when they started marching silly? What year was that.... Ah yeah, any year. Ouch! Merry Christmas.

Nope!

The year BD took off the tops of their unis for "When a Man Loves a Woman" The spread eagle Phantomettes in the 92 show, added in for finals. 98 Stonehenge changing flag colors on the Northeast corner over and over again. Alot of things in Magic's Pirates of the Carribean show. BD 2003- the snare line's one handed rolls. (I'm not a drummer, so that's probably not at all what it's called) 96 BD-Drum major mark time! Yeah!

I would argue that "doing something new" would also include taking things to another level. Case in point- Cavaliers. Robot motions fitting the theme. Body motion has been done many times before, and well. However, the extent to this done throughout the show and the fittingness of the movements gave a clear opportunity for the hornline and drumline to perform as characters to an extent that has not been seen before. Therefore, pushing the envelope. Cadets tried to push the envelope hard, but their finished product was not recieved well enough for them to be in the top. BUT! Like them or hate them, they sure are talked about alot. Unfortunately, most of the talk I've heard is about their performances where people would consciously choose not to clap, how parts of the show made them cringe. Some people will stick by them and some people will like this show, but as a whole this show was not recieved well AT ALL and that is noteworthy and people will remember it because it IS a flop of a show for them. Also, 10 years from now, I won't remember 2006 as the year Drum corps announced that it will move it's Championships to Indy for the next 10 years in 2008. I'll remember 2008 as the first summer of the Indy DCI championships. I don't remember what year the multi-key proposal was passed, I remember the first season it was in action. Ah, just kidding, I don't even keep track of that! To me, this summer was about Phantom. A different take on how to plan a season, they planned to start slow, rewrite the show, than slowly gain ground, all the way to next to the top. The semifinals crowd received the show ridiculously, and the finals night performance was in my opinion what drum corps should be about. Really loud, and full of Defiant heart.

Nope, not Stackhouse. Sorry! True, drum corps does exist outside of the top 6. But it also exists in the top 6, and everyone has a favorite! Or two. So far, it's pretty even!

I would disagree with saying the the Cadets weren't trying to push the envelope with the"singing, amplification, narration". I think it is clear that they were pushing the envelope with it, in the same manner that the multiple and simultaneous staging points did. Find a drum corps show that utilized narration to that degree to have characters in the show with dialogue, as well as singing through that duration with horns and singing blending for "the big hits" of a song. It's been done before, but this is an attempt to push the idea further. I believe it is clearly trying to be state of the art. However, judges top picks include those who they believe push the envelope, and in this they were received with less success than others.

For fun. Self explanatory.

Sounds like there are some spots still open!

"On the field, from http://www.yea.org/site/PageServer, the Cadets!"

Oh, good question! Meant to quote it but apparently it quoted everything except what I wanted it to quote. 4'33''. Creative, but sucky. IMHO my two cents flame away the usual disclaimers.

I would say it's creative music, but hardly great. In fact, I would venture as far as to say it sucks as a piece of music. See, that's where the subjectivity comes in.

The members and alumni of the Cadets and Cavaliers... and probably the Blue Devils...and just about every other corps that wants to win at least once or twice. EDIT: I forgot about the fans too. Fans care.

I may sound kind of mean for saying this, but I say too bad. There are better things in the world than an "age-out" season. If they've already marched, than they've at least had the experience. People miss their age-out seasons for all kinds of reasons, noble and not so. I don't see an exception for the rule justified because they fought for our country. If they're under 21, they don't get an exception to drink. For some reason I put it in the same boat as that.

Hmm.... Approving music by DCI, I feel like that might cause corps to look very cookie-cutterish. Would the Velvet Knights have been able to gain approval for their off the wall ideas? I don't see how more consultation could hurt though. As for pit percussion instruments, I'm still waiting for a good show to be done with vocals. If it doesn't happen soon, I feel that the large dissaproval of the crowd will force it to be weeded out of shows anyways. I would propose no physical boundaries to the performance area. I would love to see corps able to come up to the stands or right next to it and wail. (Through their horns...of course)

Troll. B)