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I agree flammaster. The design staff did not really put forth their best effort for a championship show this year. What may have looked good on paper and in the mind translated poorly to the field in GE, guard, and percussion. It took them too long to make good changes based upon the design disaster the show started off being.

I agree corpsband. I thought they performed the fire out of their show last night and now have a design that has potential. They need to stop major changes and just stick with what they have and clean the show as is.

I would love to see them win with this show!!! But, according to one person named Relics who quoted on Crown 2014, members shouldn't care about placement. They should just believe in the corps and the staff no matter where the judges place them. I disagree with this perspective. I think members should care where they are placed when they have the show and talent like the Bluecoats have this year.

Best horline in the activity with one of their worst shows since their rise to prominence. Thanks to Matt Harloff and his staff. The members of the corps deserve better from the other staff for creating this show that is not worthy of the talent this year's members bring to the corps.

I love Crown too, Cappybara. I like the brass arrangements for the 2014 production. But, the staff is stymied as to how to make this show cleaner and better, ergo, the word disaster seems appropriate based upon the talent level this corps now has.

Thank you George Dixon for making the point about the brass line. Not every year, but generally the brass, especially since 2007 has been the engine of the Corps, but Corps don't produce champions based on brass alone. If the Blue Devils teach anything, it is this point.

Cappybara, Not every Corps draws the talent and staff that Crown now does. Jim Coates called the 2014 members "his heroes." If I were him, I would be upset at what the staff (excluding Mr. Matt Harloff) have done with this show. It is not a gross exaggeration for a Corps that just came off of a championship year and had little change if any in staff.

Cappybara, I call it a design disaster because it is unlikely that they can change (e.g., simplify) it enough at this point to clean the general program. You agreed with my statement Cappybara. Why are you trying so hard to soften my critique when it is very unlikely that this show can contend for the title at this point? The design team is really behind the eight ball this year. Declaring that the design staff simply bit off a 'little' more than they could chew, does not explain why the show has improved so little in the last week and with little time left to make corrections, and other corps (e.g., SCV and Bluecoats) cleaning much better than Crown, why is my saying that the show being a design disaster inappropriate?

corpsband. I am not yelling, but emphasizing: THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT YOU DID IN YOUR LAST COMMENT. This show is a design disaster, which is why the GE is being so drastically affected. Crown will win high brass, most likely, but a championship is out of the question unless they make some deep changes to simplify this show and make it easier so that it can be cleaned more effectively. In general, it seems the staff doesn't know what to do to improve this show efficiently enough. I can't wait to buy the stand still performance.

Too much changing and not enough cleaning going on in Crown's show. The staff seems not to know what to do with the show at this point and it's showing in the scores. But, you have to credit the playing members because you can tell they are working their tails off on it. I foresee Crown winning high brass again, but not much else. The staff has bitten off more than they can chew with this show.

I would love to see Madison redo their 1995 show and win with it. Speaking of comparisons. I liked their City of Angels 1991 better than 1992. I would like to see the Crossmen redo their 1992 show. Blue Devils 88, 92 comes to mind.

Overall, I suggest the similarity is this: Crown and Star compare in terms of them producing some of the best hornlines in DCI and brass musical performance GE. In terms of percussion, they both are generally unimpressive. In fact, I think that Star and Crown struggle to find a confident identity for their percussion and they are / were the redheaded step children of the corps. In other words, I think the percussion for both corps exists just to support the brass line. Visually, Star had good visual writers, but Crown has inconsistencies in this area that in my opinion may have cost them championships in 2009 and 2012. Crown is generally better in guard than Star. In terms of entertainment, Crown is much better than Star in my opinion in terms of when both began to become champion contenders. I love Star 90 and 91 and I appreciate their innovation in 93 although I do not listen to this show at all. I loved Star's circus show as well. My favorite show of Crown's in terms of entertainment is Crown 2007 (Triple Crown)...in terms of their brass performance, 2013 is the best hornline in the history of DCI so far.

I like the two ballads in the 1991 Santa Clara Vanguard show taken from Miss Saigon.

Thank you, Wallace. As a Crown Alumni, I get beat down for saying this and agreeing with other that say it, but it seems to be the TRUTH. Crown's percussion techs are not doing the job they need to. It is not a talent problem. It is a staffing problem, and right now Crown's percussion seems to be the red-headed stepchild of the corp.