Poppycock

I went to the DCI schedule and tickets site and began entering DCA corps names to see which organizations have DCI shows. Was surprised to see who and how many shows scheduled. Suggest you check it out for yourself. Doesn’t look to me that DCA is preventing all-age corps from competing in DCI. However it doesn’t mean preventing them from having a DCI all-age show in Indy.

As I understood it there were all-age organizations that wanted to begin and end their seasons the same as DCI, and wanted DCI to hold a all-age show in Indy. Perhaps there were some all-age organizations who were going to tell DCA to pack salt and just do DCI shows and then Indy. Perhaps there were some that were going to do both DCI and DCA. DCA and DCI administrations had a meeting. DCA sets up a conference call with their member organizations and tells their member organizations that they are prohibited from dealing directly with DCI about a show in Indy. DCA also stated during the same conference call that if there is to be a all-age show in Indy it would be a DCA show, and any organization that commits to the Indy show has to commit to going to little league town too, thus preventing the break away or break off from DCA by those all-age organizations wanting to begin and end their seasons the same as DCI. I have not heard or read anything confirming or denying a all-age show in Indy, and doubt anyone would commit to it and then two weeks later go to little league town too. IMO there is little to no interest for drum corps fans to attend such an event. OC prelims/finals, WC prelims and semis, SoundSport, Drumline Battle and WC finals. What’s special about an all-age show in comparison to the rest of the events?

Smart move! At the end of the day, they will be way better off.

I’m saying probation was a meaningless word. There is no list of consequences for infractions of any sort. It’s all left up to the discretion of DCI which IMO opens the possibility for abuse of discretion.

Probation from what? Two years ago GH was ready to load the buses and go West. Did DCI know about their financial issues? Would they have still scheduled Cadets to Cali? DCI reschedules tour only after the GH incidents are exposed. The Cadets season was essentially unaffected, the show must go on.

Revenue sharing among all WC corps and spending caps are ideas to examine which may create both parity and financial stability. Limit the total amount of money that can be spent to create competitive balance. As it is now, any corps can spend all the money they can afford on staff, performers (yes performers), costuming and field equipment. This means that those corps with more limited financial resources cannot afford the top talent, best costuming and field equipment, putting them at a competitive disadvantage against those corps with greater financial resources. Not saying this will ever happen, in fact I seriously doubt it. It's an all for one to hell with the rest of you activity. There are those who sole purpose is to limit their competition, and one way is to out spend them forcing competitors into the inevitable debt collapse because they can no longer keep up with the Joneses. BTW what's the over and under on sousaphones this season?

Don’t have the tolerance for a war of linguistics acrobatics, so please try not to abuse your privilege to act imbécile.

They were last season.

Yeah right!

With respect to the price of meat will go up reference is directly related to the cost of adding woodwinds to the ensemble. Another incurred cost that is really not needed. But there might be some who want to hear that woodwinds sound from Crown.

Agree

Nothing actually happened to Cadets not even double secret probation.

Doubt that would ever happen to any finalist organization, but if it did I would have to file it under the category of too bad.

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Forgive me I just don't have the patience, I have to take the dog to the dog park. Perhaps when I'm in the mood and have more self-restraint to entertain nonsense.

Bless you DrumManTx

Oh yes thank you Jeff. I fat fingered the keyboard again.

Buffoonery!

You're not even luke warm. Next!

I'd be curious to know what your take is for creating fiscal responsibility. Should it be held solely or be divided or shared? Once woodwinds are approved, the price of meat has just gone up.

Obviously you’re not in the loop, didn’t get the memo or not on the need to know list. I’m not the whistle blower who outed the Crownies or Cadets for going to Boston on bended knees to resolve their debts. But I was listening when the story was told. Or am I the person who would determine a fair percentage cap to prevent organizations from bankruptcy trying to keep up with the arms race. My dance card is full thank you! Ultimately It’s the game that the DCI directors chose to play, so don’t hate on BD because they figured out the game, hate the game.

20 in 20

I’m certainly no financial wizard. I do know that there has been discussions on the subject. I know of several organizations who approached one organization in particular to loan them money or underwrite their debt. You would be surprised to know which organizations too. A cap could be based on a percentage of total revenue restricting the amount of money that can be spent. Some would have a higher and some lower percentage cap. IMO it could promote more competition. Some organizations intentionally misstate their financial information to favorably represent the entity’s financial performance. They may have incentives to manipulate their reported program spending ratios because donors use them in determining contribution decisions.

990’s can be manipulated. IMO with the exception of travel expenses (determined by total tour miles) both capital and operation expenditures should be caped for both WC and OC organizations, and include annual financial evaluations by an independent organization to monitor the health of each organization and the activity as a whole. This may align and level the playing field for all ending the arms race by a few to spend their competition out of business.

Certainly there is a long list of considerations, but someone else will need to help you figure that out I’m exhausted.